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Topic : 09/12 The N-Word Debate

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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 12, 2008, 1:40 pm PDT

woman in the audiance

I highly agree with the woman that is married to a white man . Has any one ever looked up the defination of the n word.try looking it up I know because my mom made me write the defination down 100 times when I was a kid cause me and my brothers and sisters called one another that and my mom did not like it. I am white and I was raised in the getto in South Carolina. the n word means trash. learn what a word means before u say it.. that word has nothing to do with slavery just because the people back then were morans. thanks Julie
 
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September 12, 2008, 1:41 pm PDT

Wondering

Towards the end of the show when the woman stood up and said something about clinging to her keys and purse when she is around a gangster looking group of African Americans, I wondered if the African American people on stage just got angry or actually took the time to reflect on her statement. I wondered if they thought to themselves about how they would react if they came across a group of teenage white boys wearing trench coats. Some African Americans say that racisim and stereotyping is just a white person thing...B.S.!

 
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September 12, 2008, 1:41 pm PDT

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It seems to me that there is reverse racism going on.  Blacks can use N***** in their songs and raps but Whites aren't supposed to say it.  Where's the logic in that?  If they can use it about themselves then they shouldn't  get all in our faces when we or anyone else uses it too. 

 

Besides....aren't there more important things to work on in this world of ours besides the use of a word?

I think it silly to even have this discussion.   No one changes their mind or their mouth about the use of this word.  It is what it is.........it will be around until the end of time just like cuss words.  We choose to say it or we chose not to.   We have that freedom.
 
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September 12, 2008, 1:41 pm PDT

Martian Luthar King JR

Martian Luthar King JR. Was KILLED for this! It all matters where it is coming from. Why do people NEED to say tha word anyways. Why do WHITE people EVER need to say that work. Why does it matter what white people are excluded from? Do you know what black people are excluded from DAILY!? Wake up people. Racism is still here. We just don't need to be a part of it. WAKE UP PEOPLE! There was an episode of American Experience on being black in america today. EVERYONE on here should watch it. Maybe it will open your eyes.
 
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September 12, 2008, 1:41 pm PDT

Grow Up!

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I completely agree. Slavery was a long time ago. Why are the white people paying for something our ancestors did along time ago, that was then..this is now. Every race has been racist towards one another. People need to get over it. Yes words do hurt at time..but its just a word. Im white and I dont use that word. And im not going to raise my daughter or my unborn son to be that way. Color of skin doesnt matter. Stop blaming every other race for racism. Black people are just as racist as any other race. There is a big difference between the N-word and black. Some people are not aware of this. They just assume that N-word associates to a black person. So not true. The N word is  never going to go away. Although we can teach our children and there children that its not a very kind word to say. But we have freedom of speech, the N-word will continued to be used whether anyone likes it or not. You can take it as a racial comment or just let it go. Its up to you!!
I completely agree with  both posts pertaining to this.  I am partially native american, but I don't walk around acting high and mighty because someone's ancestors killed my ancestors etc.  And for those who didn't know that Africa started selling their own people long before Europeans came to the country, READ A HISTORY BOOK!!!  Black people say that it's hurtful, ONLY if you allow it to be hurtful.  You can have pride in your race without being so sensitive.  Speaking as a woman as well, it seems that no one is pointing out that women overall make 30% less per year than a man with the same title and qualifications in the workplace, no one is pointing anything out other than things that happened at the start of the country ages ago.  If we look around today, I see young black childern calling me "honkey" or "cracker" in play, because they hear it at home from their parents who are still angry about slavery.  All I know is my ancestors were hurt deeply as well, but I don't teach kids to hate or use words to describe the races who suppressed my people, I take PRIDE in my ancestry but I do not make it WHO I AM.  People who blame all this on history, really go back and study it... Irish, Asian, Mexican, Spainish, French, British, EVERYONE of every ethnicity has enslaved and been enslaved at SOME point.... Read a book and don't be so ignorant... Don't be so sensitive and grow up and be PROUD of what your ancestors went through with dignity.
 
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September 12, 2008, 1:41 pm PDT

Just one thing

I only really have on thing to say. African americans can say all day long "the white man brought me here as a slave..." blah blah. Yes, we get it. But maybe you should read a history book. Those black slaves the white man brought over were sold to him by  BLACK AFRICAN KINGS.
 
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September 12, 2008, 1:42 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

The most upsetting thing of all about the show in my opinion, was that I was reminded yet again, that there really is no universal love between all of us as a human race.  As if living conditions in this world aren't unsettling enough?  I don't need anyone to tell me that I don't understand or don't "get" it. My response to them would be you don't "get" it either. There isnt one person in this world who has experienced everything in the book, good or bad to have that kind of knowledge. Having some empathy would help, would it not? Anyone who argues in the support of the N-word for whatever reason is just continuing the hostility between people born of different skin colors.
 
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September 12, 2008, 1:42 pm PDT

Word Discrimination

Rev. Al Sharpton admits that the "n" word is "poision," yet says  the young black man in the beginning of the show used it in an endearing way to his own, and that is acceptable.

 

There is no word in the dictionary that changes meaning depending on the source using it.  To my knowledge, women can use all of the same words that men can.  In other words, if a woman uses the "f" word, doesn't it mean the same thing as if a man uses it in the same context?

 

If blacks can decide when it is and isn't appropriate when to use the word, why can't the rest of us?  I personally think it shouldn't be used in ANY context.  That would be one way to end the debate.

 
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September 12, 2008, 1:42 pm PDT

Ignorant

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It was very telling when Paul Mooney said that blacks using the N-word among one another is like "honor among thieves" or "a whore calling another whore, a 'whore'". His words illustrated the problem of the word's entering history as a derogative/pejorative expression, and now being used as a term of endearment. OK, let's consider the whores. They would use the name in friendship to dispel the value judgment placed upon them by the ones who insulted them. Doing so nullifies the word's sting. Yes, I can see how the N-word took on a similar transformation culturally, so that now only black people use the word in friendship, but its not something that a white person is permitted to say--or more appropriately, that someone with an ill intention of any race is permitted to say. The problem is--then the insult is still there in the shadow. Furthermore, so is the passive-aggressive response to the insult by changing the word's usage to an intimate endearment. It mocks the original intent. The word makes whites feel uncomfortable (usually), because of this--the shame of its origin. The word grew as a way to say, "Your words are fine with us because we love ourselves and can remove your value judgment against us." Perhaps that was appropriate for a time, but is it still? Why should being black, and loving being black, continue to foster the same kind of value-dismissive communication of thieves and whores? It doesn't contribute to where people need to go today in terms of equality and respect. There's so much pain from which to heal. I think the more that people like Paul Mooney recognize its growth throughout history and decide that it's a word that should be obsolete altogether--not spoken or even thought--the more equality and respect will grow, as it should.

 

Again, regarding Paul Mooney, I watched him closely. I've never heard of him before today. But am I the only one who can see the pain written all over his face? He's funny and bright, but he has clearly suffered racism--it's visible. I don't know how the woman on the show could call him a racist. That's like calling the kid in school a 'bully' who has been beaten so many times that he has his fists up and ready for a fight. We can't blame a victim of racism of being racist. That adds insult to injury, truly. The most we can do is individually choose to express ourselves in ways that aren't offensive and provide food for thought to others to do the same. If we do, eventually racism will die. We can help it along by not partaking of its constraints. After all, a whore is still a wrongdoer and can rightfully be insulted as such, but is it kind? But being black is not wrongdoing, and the sooner we stop the insulting word, even as dismissively endearing, the sooner we will one day look back on the N-word and laugh at how strange people were back then. Get the idea? It matters. Changing the smaller issues, like the words we use, can help to change the real and bigger issues--like the fact that people ever thought it was a bad thing to be black and treated blacks unequally and disrespectfully because of their wrong thinking. It's a very complex subject that warrants complex thought and strategy to change. No matter who you are, be a part of the solution.

Paul Mooney is ignorant!
 
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September 12, 2008, 1:42 pm PDT

The N word

I have never used it  and I will not ever use it. The word has to much meaning behind it to just go around saying it. If you are stupid and can not come up with anything better to say then you should just keep your mouth shut

No one should use the N word.

 
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