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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 12, 2008, 2:54 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Paul mooney should never be invited to be a speaker on this topic ever again.His attitude on this topic is exactly the reason I'm racist.
 
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September 12, 2008, 2:54 pm PDT

bad comparison

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 I don't understand how this man gained so much fame and respect, when he rose to those by lying and perpetrating a fraud?  Why is it okay that the African Americans can spew hatred about anyone and none of them are taken to task? Did the media go balistic and criticize Kanye West after his outburst on TV after hurricaine Katrina? No, they replayed  it as a condemnation of the Bush administration?  An African American child calling a white overweight child fat is as hurtful to the white child as the "N" word to the African American. I doubt if any uproar would be made about the child being called fat.

 Actaully Kanye West was looked at as a little crazy and it did seem innapropirate for him to make the comment at that time. His comment was not hateful. He was expressing his personal opinion about how George bush handled the situation. As far as a black child calling a white child fat, black children get called fat too, and no one makes a big deal out of it. Do not compare a racial slur to an insult about one's physical appearance. Anyone can be called fat, not everyone can be called a N*%%@# and hurt by it.
 
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September 12, 2008, 2:55 pm PDT

It's not about the "N" word

The radio talk show host you had on your EXPERT panel, I use the word expert loosely, implied that if you're a REDNECK you are INBRED and are part of the KKK. He made comments that people generally use in negative terms when talking about REDNECKS. He apparently thinks these traits only exists where there are REDNECKS. He was not making comparisons to the similarities, but was specifically degrading the people where he grew up. What's the difference between that and referring to anyone as a N_____ simply because of how they live or the color of their skin? Jeff Foxworthy uses the word Redneck and has made millions as a result of it. People, including those who refer to themselves and each other as REDNECKS love what he does, just as Richard Pryor made millions and is loved by people who refer to themselves and each other as N_____. The black man on your panel with the black cap on certainly needs to separate himself from the reincarnated person that dwells within him. He is not, nor has he ever been, a slave in the context he was/is trying to convince people he is.  SLAVERY in the context he wants people to think of it, in this country, does not exist anymore. I am not saying racism doesn't exist, but slavery certainly doesn't. I applaud the lady in the audience who pointed out that he was the biggest racist in the room. I apologize if I spell her name wrong, but I loved Sheryl opinions. Most of what she said was so smart and made a lot of sense to me. However, her argument with the lady that specifically said she only used the word at home and with those close to her was totally out of line. Sheryl deliberately made it look like the woman recklessly uses the word regardless of whose around. Finally, I really think it's important to get at the real problem, but I honestly don't think it's about a word. If I said the "N" word at work and a customer heard me I'd get fired. If I said the "F" word I'd only get coached and that word is more offensive to more people than the "N" word. I think people are more concerned of the legal repercussions of people using the word than WHY they should be offended by it.
 
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September 12, 2008, 2:55 pm PDT

It's an ugly word no matter how you use it and who says it!

You cannot say 'get over it', regarding history.  In my opinion, that's disrespectful.

I don't think in the history of the English language has there been a more powerful, demeaning, ugly word.  Just because a few think using it more will make it lose it's power, it's too ingrained in each and every one of our psyche's no matter who we are, where we come from and what colour our skin is.

Lisa ... just a white woman with a strong opinion who wouldn't use the N word out of respect for herself and others.

 

 
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September 12, 2008, 2:55 pm PDT

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I certainly agree with you there.  If you ask Paul Mooney he will tell you he was brought here from slavery.
Where the h do you live?????    Asians say "Asian American"  and so forth.  The difference is Africans were FORCED to be here and are now African Americans whether you want to accept it or not.  Try accepting responsibility for what your ancestors did to people all over the world.  The white race thinks it is ok to hold another race down.  It is STILL GOING ON!!!!!!  Well the white race suffers more sickness than any other race (I work as a nurse and hardly ever see black people suffering as bad as white people in the nursing homes)....What goes around comes around......The higher power will take care of it all  thank you very much!!!! 
 
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September 12, 2008, 2:55 pm PDT

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I put it this way, people shouldn't worry about what  they call them. I have always told myself that GOD doesn't see color and neither should we. There are more important things in life that we should worry about. We need to be close together as americans then trying to put a Label on someone. 
I agree 100%.
 
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September 12, 2008, 2:55 pm PDT

The N word is as offensive as the F word

I am a white female and I find the N word and the F word equally offensive. I never use either word, and I shiver when I hear either of these words in any setting.

 

I find it hard to believe that the blacks use the N word freely and without offense amongst themselves, and yet find it offensive if a white person uses it.  That is double standard.

 

I am appalled that Jesse Jackson (note that I didn't refer to him as "REVEREND") used the N word in referencing Senator Obama.  Regardless that both parties are black, no member of a relgious sect should use words that are even slightly considered politically incorrect, debatedably offensive, and questionablly inapproprate, these words should not be spoken out of their mouths. It is inexcusable!!

 
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September 12, 2008, 2:57 pm PDT

Lets Have a real discussion.

I am disappointed with the 'discussion' that took place on the show today.  I think it would be more meaningful to have a discussion about racism in this country.  Using the n word is offensive and destructive.  If it offends others, we should not say it.  Who are we to judge whether or not they shold be offended?  We have a painful history with African Americans and we need to work through this history.  I would really like to see a show where professionals from an academic university come to discuss the issues that affect the african american community.  With all do respect to the guests that were on the show, they are not experts in the field and I think the discussion could have  been more informative and thought provoking.  I think we need to stop defending racist thoughts and actions and accept and listen to other people's experiences.

 

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September 12, 2008, 2:57 pm PDT

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I grew up in the segregated South, when blacks and white had different entrances into department stores, movie balconies, different bathrooms and water fountains.  Through CHOOSING to love and be friends to peoples of different colors, I have made a difference.  I have had sleepover parties with peoples of different ethniticity, black, hispanic , indian and asian.  I have had best friends of different races.  I am white.

My father has been accused of being 'racist' because he has a picture of blacks picking cotton in a cotton field.  People don't know that it is a childhood memory for my father, as he was the white child walking behind the black field worker, PICKING COTTON WITH HIM TO EARN SOME MONEY!!!  People love to 'assume.'

My family came from Sweden and England.  We were poor and through education and sheer hard work, have made our livings.  We did not have nor own slaves in our family history.

My point is this: we all have had struggles throughout life and some have had harder struggles.  My faith in God and His continued help in changing my heart, I hope, have made me a better person.  Could it be possible that if we ALL would stop calling each other names and become AMERICANS, that we could learn to love and appreciate each other?

I love your statemant. Yes! I am African American & Yes! I agree with you. You are taking a positive set & so am I. Lets agree to enjoy life for we all are Americans. In reference to you father, If you know  he isn't  a racist than he isn't a racist. Stop explaining yourself. You know who your father is. Art is Art. Just try to enjoy life.
 
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September 12, 2008, 2:58 pm PDT

Time to move on

Ok...just to add my 2 cents work...ok buck seventy five since this is a Canadian comment...Seems to me that the N word is not really the issue. That male comedian was stating that white folks taught him to be racist and that he is a child stolen from the slaves. I do not mean to offend nor negate the fact that there were horrendous injustices thrust upon African Americans years ago. But the point is...it was years ago. We have come so far since then. He is not a child stolen from slaves...He was born an American, raised an American and obviously has earned the same opportunities any other American has by working hard. I think that to be still saying that African Americans are still oppressed because of what happened to their ancestors is a crutch. I myself dealt with a horrible childhood, povety, abuse...yet I work very hard and am a very loving wife mother and friend. Past is passed...stop looking at what happened back then and start looking at all of the positive changes.

I also agree with the young lady that said B.E.T. is an example of African Americans self seggregating..another example of such is the American Coallition of Black Lawyers...Maybe it's finally time to forgive and forget....and get back to being one nation....of many colours

 
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