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Topic : 09/12 The N-Word Debate

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Created on : Thursday, September 04, 2008, 12:16:52 pm
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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 12, 2008, 3:57 pm PDT

The N Word is divisive

When used by white and black people, it is a divisive word. Black people use it knowing that it's not exceptable for white people to. That is saying, "We're racially different from you". It is highlighting the differences between people and not the similarities.

 
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September 12, 2008, 3:57 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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It seems to me that when there is conflict with an African American and a white person that the white person gets attacked that they are racist. Could it be the other way around? Just wondering if anyone else feels this way?

That is the way it is.  If there is a confrontation between a white and black the white person is always made out to look like a racist.

 
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September 12, 2008, 3:57 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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Why?
 
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September 12, 2008, 3:57 pm PDT

What about the kids?

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I am 61 years ol, grew up in the suburbs of Los Angeles and never experienced racisim.  I wasn't taught it, I just never knew about it.  I learned about it when I married a militarty man and lived all over the place.  When I learned that a friend of mine from Florida would not get on a bus if the driver was black, it made me laugh.  I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.  Then my black neighbors told me what they had gone thorough when growing up, couldn't try on clothes they wanted to buy, etc.  I was mad.  I know my mind, and If I had been born black and lived in their area I would be dead.  Now I am a very proud and happy gramma of a black grandson and he considers himswelf black.  I try to teach him all I can about his history, try to keep him from going into the gangs (white or black or hispanic, asian).  I want him to carry himself with pride, be smart, make the right choices and tell him how it is.  He has a great sense of humor, manners, and he does not even think about "what" his friends are.  I see lots of people looking at him then looking at me and I know it is because he is so handsome, how could it possibly be anything else?

 

Children live what they learn.

Who is teaching the kids these things? Children do learn and end up living what they learn.  I get that the "N" word has history. I get that it some use it for "endearments" and think nothing of it. It is supposed to be a hateful word so it should not be used at all.  I don't understand the black and white issues now. Not that I am ignorant to them, I just don't understand why they still need to exist. My children don't know the meaning of the "n" word. They don't think there are any differences between people. Of course they can tell that people have different types of skin but they don't understand what it means or why. They certainly would not understand why some people can use it and others can't, becasue we are all "PEOPLE".

 

Our family came home one night and had left the TV on a cartoon channel.. We walked in the door and there ws a cartoon show on and we heard the word "ni....". It was a little girl talking about her grandpa. I ran and turned off the TV. Kids don't get this. Why is it a bad word for them but not this little cartoon character talking on TV.  If my children had repeated this somewhere, speaking of perhaps an older black man (that's what an"N" was to them on the TV) , my kids would labeled as racist and foulmouthed little creeps. NOONE should be allowed to use it since it is such an awful word with horrible connotations. 

 

We shouldn't teach hate nor racism nor stereotypes to our children no matter what colour we are. Perceptions and ideas are most often put into children's minds. We all have to stop continuing this needless situation.

 
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September 12, 2008, 3:58 pm PDT

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Quote From: zoeyrn5

This is such a no brainer.....you shouldn't say anything that would be offensive to anyone.  I don't care what race you are.  Plain and simple.  My mother was raised in the deep south and I never heard her use the

word....ever.  Slang is never ok if it leaves someone feeling bad.  Hello.......is there anyone out there?  Can we move forward from this and onto more important issues?

I totally agree... I am just amazed that white people really want black people to be okay with them addressing them in that manner.
 
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September 12, 2008, 3:58 pm PDT

Guests

I think that it's rediculous that you hold a debate about the "n" word and then let 1 person control the whole conversation! The guy with the pinstripe jacket and shiny beanie was so lound and wouldn't let ANYONE talk! If your going to hold a debate everyone should get their fair time to talk and express their opinion, not just let that guy talk over top of them so that they don't even get an opinion. Usually your very good at letting everyone have their turn but I thought today was very unfair to the women in the audience that were trying to talk as well as Cheryl Underwood!

 
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September 12, 2008, 3:58 pm PDT

Their is a diffrence!

Quote From: ohines

It seems to me that there is reverse racism going on.  Blacks can use N***** in their songs and raps but Whites aren't supposed to say it.  Where's the logic in that?  If they can use it about themselves then they shouldn't  get all in our faces when we or anyone else uses it too. 

 

Besides....aren't there more important things to work on in this world of ours besides the use of a word?

 I am not saying that it is okay for Black people to call each other N******; however, their is a diffrence between Black people and white, chinese, and latino people saying the word. Now, the diffrence is as simple as this... we are black, the word was made up by white people to offend black people. I have never heard a white rapper say the N word in his lyrics because it would be wrong for him to do so; however, I have heard white rappers calling one another words that are meant to offend white people. If you have no need or urge to say the N word, why waste your time wondering we you can not say it.
 
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September 12, 2008, 3:59 pm PDT

Just don't call me late for breakfast...

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  I agree with you.This is all stupid and we could be doing somehting productive instead!!! Get over it people!!! We are all Americans!!!!!
Actually,  I'm  Canadian. I heard one woman use the word cracker.  I've never been called a cracker.  What kind of cracker are we talking about here? Saltine, Ritz... I like those cheesy gold fish thingies. I have no frame of reference for what that term should mean. I couldn't care less what you call me. I think of myself as a Celt, or a McKraut. My heritage is rife with invasions by the Romans, Saxons, Vikings, Mongols, Normans, and the English. Those periods in time were brutal, but are now history.  Learn, improve, and move on. It is ridiculous and self serving to think that only people of European descent are racists, but it certainly is easy and popular. We need to work towards a day when we are all just humans, and that starts with letting go of the past.
 
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September 12, 2008, 3:59 pm PDT

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Quote From: weidgate51

I am just an American. My Great-grandparents immigrated from England and Ireland along with some Great Aunts & Uncles.

One of them in turn married into the Cherokee tribe.

I do not call myself Irish-English-Native American-American.

I'm just an American.

I was born here, not there.

Of course, this is just my opinion. If you were born here; you are an American. You might have some Russian, or German, or Portuguese ancestry somewhere along the line, or African or Irish.

You were born here; you are AMERICAN period.

Thank you for bringing up this WHOLE other debated topic.  I read an article in the 1990's about why are Black Americans referred to as African Americans.   When i asked a number people in the black community what they thought about it, they said they preferred being called Black...not african american.  So called "Political correctness"  is enough to make up all regurgitate
 
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September 12, 2008, 3:59 pm PDT

quick history lesson

Quote From: lady37

Paul Mooney is NOT racist!!!!  He is keeping it real!!!!!  People of color, whom are older and wiser, have most likely experienced racism in America after the slave times.  Racism is still going on!!!!!!  It is NOT in the past!!!!  How would your race turn out if your ancestors were robbed of their heritage, including language, culture, way of dressing, and general way of life?????   Now don't get me wrong, some blacks blame all their bad behavior and racism on whites but alot of blacks have learned how to "adapt" in life.  This teaching has been passed on from generation to generation.  Paul Mooney's Great grand parents were probrably slaves.  That is what he learned.   He also lived through the Civil Rights Movement......

 

Let me reiterate....RACISM IS STILL GOING ON TODAY!!!!!  Crawl out from under your rock!!!!!!

Did you know that there were many Irish slaves that were brought over to America at the same times that the African's were brought over?? Well there were. Did you also know that they were treated just as harshly as African's? AND did you know that most of the people who sold slaves in Africa were of the same race as the slaves? Well they were. I am of strong Irish decent and I do not hold on to the past and blame old times for what is going on today. I know that racism is still happening today. I see it every day, and it is done by all!

People like Paul Mooney are NOT helping society with their statements and actions. I was strongly disappointed with him while watching the show today. I think that if he wants to fix anything then he needs to start with himself and then and only then should he start "helping" others.
 
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