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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 12, 2008, 4:14 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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People stop being foolish and saying most violent crimes are commited by whites! 

Personally while working apts throught Atlanta doing Cable tv from 1999-2005 i outsmarted 2 carjackers in 2001 (yes they wanted me to drive to the woods so they could kill me), had a crackhead in bankhead courts (where TI is from)  point a gun at my chest to rob me back in 99...THEN tried to sell me the same gun! 
 Ive walked in on a gastation robbery around 2004 and had a assult rifle pointed at my face by one of the 5 black males in ski masks.  So am i racist to admit EVERYTIME IT WAS A BLACK MALE!!!

Theres something seriously wrong with a race of people that leave over 70% of their kids with NO FATHERS...and are 11 TIMES more likely to have AIDS...and over 20% times more likely to have other STD's. 
 I also worked around thousands of mexicans and whites...and NEVER had a serious problem with any of them.   Its the young black cats out there that have NO respect for anything but "get money"  any way they can!  And if your a educated black...they dont descriminate...thell rob and kill you as well. 
So to the 25% of black males that take care of your families.... .CONGRATS...but your culture is very screwed up....i truly feel sorry for black women. 
WELL MOST OVERLY DEPRESSED/ SERIAL KILLERS ARE OF THE WHITE RACE.. YOU DON'T SEE BLACK PEOPLE.. STALKING OUR GUYS/GIRLS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA BE WITH US OR GOING POSTAL BECAUSE WE WERE LAID 2 DAYS AGO... NO NEED TO FEEL SORRY BLACK WOMEN... WE ARE BUILT TOUGH, ENDURING!!! WE GOT THIS.. WHITE PEOPLE NEED WATCH THEM BAD SEEDS THEY GOT INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT "OUR" KIDS, WE TEACH OURS BETTER(I.E HOW TO GET OVER THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T A "A" IN A CLASS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO KILL THE TEACHER AND THE STUDENTS THEY WILL BE WAY MORE A'S TO COME) AND GET YOUR STATS RIGHT... THE HIGH DIVORCE RATE IS MOST FROM WHITE MARRIAGES IDIOT.. THERE ARE JUST AS MANY WHITE DEAD~BEATS AS THERE IS BLACK.... I LIVE AND WORK IN THE ATLANTA AREA...YOUR JUST MARKED WITH BAD LUCK HONEY... ATLANTIC STATION ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS FULL OF SUCCESSFUL "BLACK" PEOPLE.. YOUR JUST ANGRY "IT'S CALLED THE BLACK MECCA FOR A REASON"
 
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September 12, 2008, 4:14 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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It seems to me that when there is conflict with an African American and a white person that the white person gets attacked that they are racist. Could it be the other way around? Just wondering if anyone else feels this way?
I agree. I am white and consider people are equal. I think black people jump to conclusions about how we view them and they end up hurting themselves and not us white people.
Like the black comedian on the show that a white woman called to most racist on the show, I agree with her. He is only hurting himself and he is an jerk because he is a jerk and not because of the color of his skin
 
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September 12, 2008, 4:15 pm PDT

Nothing was accomplished

I am a 26 year old AA female and I just watched the show.  I can tell you that none of the AA on the panel with the exception of Hill  Harper represented us well.  The got nothing accomplished.  They way that they carried themselves and some of the things that were said was out of line.  Their behavior, in my opinion, fed into the stereotype.  They became very angry when ppl of other races used the world but didnt make any sense in when explaining why they used it themselves.  I didnt grow up back when there was segregation, so Im assuming thats where the anger steams from.  I dont think that its right for anyone to use the word.  Just as it wasnt appropriate when Paul Mooney jumped all over the women in the audience. I hope they do the show with  some more respectable black people because we are all not the same
 
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September 12, 2008, 4:15 pm PDT

Origin of the ""N" Word

It has been a long time since I posted here but I just have to weigh in on this one.  If anyone had bothered to look it up they would have found that the origin of the "N" word is niger which is black in latin. At some point in time someone added the extra "G".   Latin in not used much anymore unless you are in the medical profession.  I live in Alabama, the most racist state in the US second only to Mississippi.  I was 7 when the bus was burned in Anniston Alabama.  I was 13 when the church was bombed, I felt the explosion.  Our closest neighbors growing up were Black.  My mom sewed for them in exchange for baby sitting services.  They came in through our front door, not the back.  She was very adamant that just because their skin was a different color did not mean we had the right to abuse them.  I work with African-Americans everyday.  No we don't all get along, I work for the Government and when you have that many people you are not going to get along with everyone.  And I have to say that if some people would learn their history, then stop feeling sorry for themselves and get off their butt and try to understand the people around them this world would be much better.  There are no racial lines for soldiers trapped in a fox hole.  If you cut the skin the blood will still run red no matter who you are.  We are not all going to like each other but it should be for something other than the color of our skin.  Each culture has its own traditions, there is nothing wrong with that.  But instead of ignoring the traditions of other cultures lets get together and learn where they came from.  I can guarantee you that unless you ancestors were American Indians then no one in this country can claim absolute ancestry in America.  We are all Americans, not African-American, not Irish-American, Not English-American.  Just Americans. 

 

JMVHO

African Grey

 
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September 12, 2008, 4:16 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

I am a 14  year old African American, Native American female and am proud of it. I believe what we should be doing about Racism is stop talking about and start doing something about it. Yes we were once slaves, Yes racism still occurs and Yes there has been change.

I believe the problem lies inside of the African American households. Parents need to teach their children self respect. Because if you have self respect then it doesn't matter what people call you but what you answer to.

Barack Obama maybe bi-racial but he is a role model for African Americans. He might not have been the first black man to run for office but he is the first to get this far. So what he went for the black ticket and not the Bi-racial one. I appriciate that he is embracing his African American side. He is a Posite role model for black men and they need that. Whites have plenty and they don't really need encouragment but black men are in jepordy of destruction and Barack stands for hope and change. 

 

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September 12, 2008, 4:16 pm PDT

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Dear Dr. Phil,

 

I agree with those that say - this is a negative word, full of poison and should not be used...period. It has a negative history, and although it is one that we should never forget because of its past, it should no longer be in a person's vocabulary. There are so many other appropriate words that can be used in its place, especially when its used in an 'endearing' way. Now, I feel this way, but do have to agree that if someone was to use it, only in a friendly manner that is, that only African Americans have that right. The thing is - the only way to ensure that its use is never used in a negative and demeaning way would be for everyone, African American included, to take the initiative and never ever use this word again. If no one used it then we could eliminate so much hatred that is built around this word.

 

One comment I was a little disturbed about is the 'dolls' reference that was mentioned. About kids having to pick the doll that is the ugliest and that they choose the 'black' one. Really, I believe that the choice made by these kids is based on how they were raised. I myself would have picked the fattest one. I was brought up to believe that fat is ugly, and to be it is the worst thing ever. So, at 34 my choices would still be geared towards what I was taught. If kids today are still choosing the African American doll as the ugliest they are not being filled with positive healthy images. Kids today should be taught that no doll/person is ugly! Unless it's old and worn out! lol

 

I think this was a great show, too short that's for sure. Maybe you should try to implement something like you son did about bullying in school...kids should sign contracts to not use this word ever. Sometimes you can't change those that have lived the word but you could educate the children of today and start a wave for the future and ensure that the next generation knows this words history and knows that it's just not appropriate vocabulary for today.

 

Thanks,

 

Karey Hutchings

 
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September 12, 2008, 4:17 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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Actually,  I'm  Canadian. I heard one woman use the word cracker.  I've never been called a cracker.  What kind of cracker are we talking about here? Saltine, Ritz... I like those cheesy gold fish thingies. I have no frame of reference for what that term should mean. I couldn't care less what you call me. I think of myself as a Celt, or a McKraut. My heritage is rife with invasions by the Romans, Saxons, Vikings, Mongols, Normans, and the English. Those periods in time were brutal, but are now history.  Learn, improve, and move on. It is ridiculous and self serving to think that only people of European descent are racists, but it certainly is easy and popular. We need to work towards a day when we are all just humans, and that starts with letting go of the past.

If you want to talk about letting go then people should let go of wanting to use the N word. No one said that Europeans are the only racist because it is a learned behavior. However they sure were the first. You could be Canadian or whatever you want to be just dont call me no N word to my face and not expect a reaction. You said you don't understand the word cracker, but what is a N***er?

 
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September 12, 2008, 4:17 pm PDT

I Said it Uncensored on Network TV

In my early 20's I was a witness to a hate crime. A low life local media personality bombarded me. On the spot, young, and clearly thoughtless, I said the N word when asked what the defendant had been calling the plaintiff. The station aired the news piece uncensored.

 

Whether it was poor editing on their end or they were looking to make a point, I'll never know. There was no malice or hatred or meaning - it was simply me stating a word that I'd heard one person call another. Although decades have passed, and I testified for the plaintiff while being threatened, I'm still somewhat embarassed.

 

I think this is an issue that is serious enough to merit a second show that is actually moderated, where the host does not stand idly by allowing guests to shout over each other and audience members. One must also ask where the representatives of the rap community were. Eminem and 50 Cent should be invited to speak. Two rappers separated by color. One uses the N word and one does not.

 

Again, you can't have an actual discussion when one person on the panel is shouting down the opinions of others. He shouldn't be invited back. I found him racist and offensive. The bottom line is racial slurs should be off limits. I would never, as an Irish woman, embrace the M word (a slang term for Irish which has been used in a song by someone who is not Irish). 

 

My Irish ancestors did not overcome their own oppression from British rule, enduring years of war and poverty and hopelessness, to have a racial slur live on. I can't imagine the ancestors of African Americans would want the N word to live on.

 
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September 12, 2008, 4:17 pm PDT

The N-Word is not the only foul word in the World.

I don't want to pollute my mouth by saying that foul word, it's just another swear word.
We have an obligation to teach our children the worlds history. Slavery is a part of it. If we focus on the N-word then our children might remember "Mom/dad spent so much time on the N-word, than what happened to the slaves, so the N-word must be more important." They might not understand what it meant to be a slave and what the word meant to the slave victims. I personally don't know what the experience is like, but I don't try to pretty up the picture for them. I don't mean to make light of it of the subject, but there are other histories out there that are not pretty. For me the only time that I might say the N-word is in explaining to my children why we don't say it.
The N-word is not the only offending word out in the world.

There are some that need to get over it, don't tell me your a victim of slavery if it was actuallly your ancestor. It was not you. I don't deny that your ancestor was mistreated. No one should be treated like that at all. There is absolute no excuse for how Humans treat other Humans.
 
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September 12, 2008, 4:18 pm PDT

The N-Word

Quote From: dbogue

I think the N-word should be treated the same as the F-word. They are bad for everyone. No one should use them. There is no reason to use them. They just hurt .
I agree with what this person said.  No one, under any circumstance should use this horrible word.  To use the N-word is to get an effect.  It is very offensive.  The woman in the audience, who says she was an attorney, married to a white man, is a disgrace.  She said that she and her husband use the N-word quite frequently to each other.  I, an African American woman, also have a relationship with a white man.  We would never think to use the word under any circumstance.  Its not cute, its not nice.  I don't use the word with my black friends, and ask them not to use it with me.   It may sound okay from one black to another, but, when any other race says the word, all hell breaks lose.  People should look the word up in the dictionary, maybe then they'll stop using it.  The dictionary says this:  The term N----- in all contexts, it is now generally regarded as virtually taboo because of the legacy of racial hatred that underlies the history of its use among whites, and its continuing use among a minority as a viciously hostile epithet.  To use it, shows total ignorance, brain dead, does not know how to move forward in life.
 
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