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Topic : 09/12 The N-Word Debate

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Created on : Thursday, September 04, 2008, 12:16:52 pm
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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 12, 2008, 7:36 pm PDT

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Respect has to be earned? Damn, what happened to respect for the human race? You can't be respected as a living, breathing individual anymore?

See what Capitalism will do to a country? LOLOLOLOL

responding to the last person....yes respect has to be earned ...

if someone spits in your face are you going to respect them? no

human race... things have changed and evolved use your common sense and use your knowledge.

respect is obviosly something that needs to be earned or else why do we have inmates in our prisons?

 
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September 12, 2008, 7:36 pm PDT

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An even better question, really, is what pain can it cause? You and I will probably disconnect at this point, because you've never been called it. You won't know that kind of pain - and sorry, but being called a cracker, honky, white devil, blue eyed devil, so on and so forth does not equate - and your posts will lack an important perspective because of it.

If your next point is going to be to just "get over it," really. It's not that easy, and we're just not far enough removed from the Civil Rights Era for it to be considered that easy.
"...and we're just not far enough removed from the Civil Rights Era for it to be considered that easy."

And that I couldn't agree more on. I really can't. People think of these things in terms of "OH SO LONG AGO!" but black people were slaves only 150 years ago. Jim Crow laws were active less than 50 years ago. Our country will take time to heal, no doubt.  But I really do feel like this stupid word has been given a lot of undue, undeserved power...I feel like it does nothing but keep these wounds open...
 
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September 12, 2008, 7:38 pm PDT

The way it should be

In the 1970's U.S. Congress Man and chairman of the black caucus Ron Dellums Said  'If you define n*****' as someone whose lifestyle is defined by others, whose opportunities are defined by others, whose role in society is defined by others, then good news! - you don't have to be black to be a n*****' in this society, most of the people in America are n*****'s!' And thats the truth
 
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September 12, 2008, 7:38 pm PDT

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Respect has to be earned? Damn, what happened to respect for the human race? You can't be respected as a living, breathing individual anymore?

See what Capitalism will do to a country? LOLOLOLOL
I agree here...

Respect is something everyone should start off with...basic human respect.
 
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September 12, 2008, 7:40 pm PDT

Step outside of self

It's hard to step outside of yourself.  We all have preconceived notions so it's hard to set that aside.  Just think how many people think they know what jesus or mary looked like and can swear that that object looked the 'spitten' image of him or her when there was no portrait or picture taken two thousand years ago.  Based on what and where is this certainty coming from?  Up until the seventies black people did not like you calling them a 'n*****''.  In the black community not enough good people scoll these people for making the 'slave mind' acceptable.  You can have blacks in the public schools say that 'you are acting white' if you speak well.  If a white person says it everyone jumps on that person.  If a black person is successful he/she is critisized with 'oh you think you are better'.  In the white community they stare with disbelief.  I think to combat this perception we should talk about what the word means.  I think they are real and they are the ones destroying the black community by not taking responsibilities for there actions.This perception is within the black community as well as white because blacks also say if a white person acts wild and hasa criminal attitude they say he is acting black!

 

 
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September 12, 2008, 7:43 pm PDT

Yep

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ok well i going to respond to this honestly and truthfully from my prespective and from what i've personally seen and experienced...

african americans can be racist towrds any other race

white people are always being rasist because the fact that there white...

mexicans seem to be in th middle

asians are are also in the middle

the questions are; why is is that racism is seen from a majority of whites and blacks?

why can black people say racial things without mentioning slavery?

The real question is was Africa the only country that went through slavery?

the answer is NO!

[people need to think about that..

 

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Africa is a continent.  We are not talking about other countries.  We are talking about America. 

This is an American problem between European Americans and African Americans.  The rest of you are just caught up in the middle of it and don't really know  what's going on.  You miss the whole thing if you are not black and you don't want to know if you are white. Everybody else is not a part of the issue. And, the history books can't  begin to tell the story.  And, nobody has the right to belittle anybody else, not even us black people.  I don't even know where that come from.  Why do you think that it's like that?  I use the "n" word in-culture.  I don't use it with others and no one has the right to use it with me.  Got it? 

 
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September 12, 2008, 7:43 pm PDT

No, are YOU serious?!

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you missed the point or were you not wanting to catch it? every name calling is uncalled for being black doesn't make it worse. are YOU serious? The topic of the discussion is not if its OK to call a black the n word the discussion is why blacks can use it but whites cant. no one is saying its OK to call a black the n word.
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" An African American child calling a white overweight child fat is as hurtful to the white child as the "N" word to the African American. I doubt if any uproar would be made about the child being called fat."

That was just an irrelevant metaphor to use. Come on! Really? I believe EVERY race comes in skinny, medium, and fat. No, no uproar would be made if a black person calls a white person "fat"!! Not as far as using a racial slur. Are you kidding me??? Forget about the "N" word debate for a minute. Just because a black kid is referring to a white kid as "fat" doesn't mean its toward him as his race, but due to his weight. That black kid could be calling EVERYONE fat. Use a better analogy to get your point across. That just makes no logical sense. I understand what they meant, but I too, thought that that was a stupid comment.

I am against that word as well, but I can come up with a better argument than that.
 
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September 12, 2008, 7:45 pm PDT

Amen & Amen Again!!!!

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First of all I would like to say that I applaud Dr. Phil for having this discussion, because it does show that many people haven't a clue about African-American history. If people did study the history of African-Americans and how racism had and still has a negative impact on African-Americans then they wouldn't be using the N-word. Second, it always strikes me when White or other ethnic race tells black people to get over racism. Well it's easy for them to say since they haven't had the history that black people had. That's like me telling a woman who has been raped to get over it. Sure it's easy for me to say since I've never been raped. How can we get over something when racism still exist? Third, for the woman who stood up and said that she's not a racist because she works with black people. Oh sure we're fun to work with but when you leave work you have to watch out for those "criminal blacks." Again, that woman as well as some of the others there don't know about history. Let me remind you that White people have a history of murdering, stealing, lying, and deceiving people of other cultures. What about that? Now you want to blame that on BET. That woman like most other races have been raised to believe that all blacks are criminals. News flash people, blacks aren't the ones walking up in schools and shooting innocent people, blacks aren't the ones who have private sectors where they sleep with little girls and boys under the age of 12, blacks aren't the ones dressed in white sheets saying I hate Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Asians, and women and it wasn't a black man who blew up Oklahoma City. Now the N-word shouldn't be used by anyone and the ones in those rap videos who do say it don't know there history and the impact that the N-word had on African-Americans. Finally, for that black woman who said that she refers to her white husband as a N---- really has problems. Then if she accepts when her husband calls her that she claims she wouldn't have a problem with it. New flash woman, you need to study your history and find out what white men did to black men and women. I believe if racism is ever going to be resolved we have to dig up the roots of it and eliminate it for good. Thank God the series "Race, Racism, and Religion." Everyone needs to buy this series. Take care............
People really don't get it if they've never experienced it.  None of these outraged white Americans would trade places with us for 15 minutes!  Yet they feel the need to tell us what we should & shouldn't feel, say and/or think!  And for the record my dear White Americans...who even have some black friends out there somewhere,  We compare our slavery experience to that of the Jewish Holocaust, because there is more than enough documents and or other confirmations that the murders/deaths of Africans during the Middle Passage was upward or above 20 million.  Mind you that was just during the PASSAGE!!!  We're just stating that folk of European descent have a history of extremely barbaric behavior.  History says so....not I.
 
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September 12, 2008, 7:46 pm PDT

The "N" word debate

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The resurgence of the N-word, the B-word, F-word and other offensive terms has more to do with society as a whole spiraling into the a cesspool of depravity. Everything that once was frowned upon, is now winked at and acceptable. There have always been double standards among the races as to what is and isn't ok for outsiders to say or see. There are terms that other ethnic groups use among themselves that don't make headlines. In part because these terms are not reminders of lynching's, beatings, rapes, separation of familles and other types of oppression. Younger people are not aware of what the now Baby Boomers lived through so they can now stand on a stage or make a movie, or even go through the main door at a sports arena.  If  a forensic unit examined the N-word, I'm sure they would still find the blood, heart and soul of those that gave their lives for the freedom of us all. I don't feel the N- word should be used openly by recording artist, because it's a slap in the face of their parents and their own family heritage. But unfortunately some of these artist know very little about their heritage, as some proclaim in their music the lack of parenting and family values.

I never hear other races call each other names like I hear Black folks call each other the "N"word.  I do not hear Italians walk up to each other and say, "Hey what's up "WOP" or what's up my "Honky".   It would not be acceptable  to do so.  So why is it acceptable for Black folks to use this derogatory word towards each other? ... Because the music industry perpetuate the use of the word in the music that our young folks listen to as well as the videos and advertising.  It needs to stop now!

 
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September 12, 2008, 7:46 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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was africa the only country that went through slavery?

the answer is No!

 

comments?

You want comments?

This remark is tired...it's old. Shoot it already, put it out of it's misery.
 
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