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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 12, 2008, 9:27 pm PDT

The N-word

I am a white woman and it makes me furious anytime I hear someone use the N-Word.  There is no reason or excuse to use this word  whether in public or private.  My dad is extremely prejudiced and I heard that word so much it made me sick.  I am raising my neice who is mixed race. Her father is black and her mother is white, but you know what I see when I look at her? A beautiful intelligent young lady who is a straight a student.  But this country is not just black or white. What about the other races that make up this country.  They are called many different names.  Chinese are called chinks, mexicans are called wetbacks

and the list could go on and on. So no I dont like the N word but neither do I like the other names people are called either.

I thought paul was rather rude to the audience. He seemed full of anger and hatred just in the way he presented himself.  And the woman comedienne who used the comment about the little girl, it was something about a girl being in the yard and you wouldnt look out and say hey little black girl get out of my yard, well neither would you say little n get out of my yard.  Any body would look out their door and say 

hey kid, would you mind getting out of my yard.  There is no reason to call a person a stupid name just because of the color of their skin. All people were created equal and in Gods eyes we are all the same.

God is the creator of all and there is no color in his eyes, just people who are all the same no matter where they are from. 

 

Why not have a debate on all the stupid name people are called, not just the N word.

 
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September 12, 2008, 9:30 pm PDT

This isn't about rubbing our faces in it.

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 I find it very frustrating that the N-word is forbidden and put aside with history BUT put the slavery stuff with that. The one guest(male) with the knit cap on, was very nasty to the one lady and was repeating all about slavery. He may have had family that were slaves but he wasn't why can't they let that go. They are always rubbing that in OUR faces,ya think we like hearing that? I know I don't and I know there are lots that are sick of hearing it. They can't have everything their way we all need to work together and stop fighting each other and just be the best Americans there are.We need to show the rest of the world we can live in peace with each other no matter what color we are. Thank you

 

GOD BLESS AMERICA.

It's about the origin of a word.  The "N" word as it  is now known was derived from the days of slavery.  Period.  This is not about you or any other specific white people.  This is about a derogatory word connected to a history of cruelty and suffering.  It shouldn't matter what group of people it was put upon.  It's not about the specific people on the show and every little thing that was said.  It's about the WORD.  This word is wrong to use.  Period.  Let's get back on topic.  Maybe there's something about the fact that I'm Canadian and not American that I don't become defensive when African-American people talk about their experiences and those of their ancestors.  Instead I listen and understand.  Nobody has a right to tell someone else what should or shouldn't offend them.  Have you ever been offended?  Would you like to have a neverending debate from a large group of people telling you it shouldn't offend you?  Please think about that.
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:31 pm PDT

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The Columbine High School massacre occurred on Tuesday, April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School in Columbine in unincorporated Jefferson County, Colorado, near Denver and Littleton. Two students, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, embarked on a shooting rampage, killing 12 students and a teacher, as well as wounding 23 others, before committing suicide. It is the fourth-deadliest school killing in United States history, after the 1927 Bath School disaster, 2007 Virginia Tech massacre and the 1966 University of Texas massacre, and is the deadliest high school shooting.  

The massacre provoked debate regarding gun control laws, the availability of firearms in the United States, and gun violence involving youths. Much discussion also centered on the nature of high school cliques, subcultures and bullying, as well as the role of violent movies and video games in American society. The shooting also resulted in an increased emphasis on school security, and a moral panic aimed at goth culture, social pariahs, the gun culture, the use of pharmaceutical anti-depressants by teenagers, violent films and music, teenage internet use,[1 and violent video games.[2[3  


  


  

WHITE PEOPLE  ---are you joking what--- While us "white folks"  we don't set out to wipe out the youth in our community  just a school ok  right  


  

Mr. Mooney was right  about what he said  


  

i have watched the Dr Phil  show  where he has told a White Mother that her son had serial killer ways  

so what have you been watching
  


  


  

I knew it would be a mistake to create a message on this topic. Generalizing whites as serial killers is ok but gang violence done by black is ok. i get it now and wont respond again. thanks for opening my eyes. i clearly see white people sre nothing but bad. give me a break
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:33 pm PDT

GET OVER IT!!!!!

 I am sorry. I think this is all so ridiculous! I have never been racist in my life but if I hear one more complaint from the blacks I think I will throw up! It seems as though this is all we hear about anymore. The big "N" word, That blacks can't get good jobs, how the police and every other race ( mexican, white, etc.) are prejudice against the blacks, how they were slaves, how there is more blacks in jail than whites. Give it up people! Blacks CAN get good jobs, you were not slaves your ancesters were, blacks commit more crime which is why there are more of them in jail. If I was ticked off my whole life about the color of my skin and what people were saying about me I would not have time to get a good job either! If I was in a gang a shooting people up...I would be in jail too. So stop using racism as an excuse, put your gun down, get off your couch, and get a job!!!! You want to talk racism? How about BET or the United Negro College Fund. I'll tell ya if there was a WET channel or a United Caucasion College Fund there would be lawsuits and picket lines! I am a woman so I think the next time I don't get the better job I will call racism, it seems to be working.
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:38 pm PDT

N-Word Debate

Hello Dr. Phil, My name is JaLeesha, I am 20 years old and I am a junior in college. Today by far was the day, I made sure I watched your show. This topic is such a controversy among blacks and whites. I will be candor, I use the word with my friends and when I am making a gesture towards a male who promiscuous and no good. I feel the word only has power if you give it power. My grandmother and I are at different stand points on this word, she feels the word should never be used and thats a pejorative word used towards blacks. For myself it a cultural norm, I hear the word in songs with rappers and in my environment in school. Reluctantly, I was not raised in a home where the word frequent my parents lips. I have become cultured over the years and have grown beyond what people seem to see the surface meaning. I feel as black people we have created negative to a positive. I think what some people fail to realize is that its all about the generation you come from. My grandmother came from an era in time where there was segregation, my mother came from a time where there was segregation to integration, and with me I have been able to experience the Idea of the melting pot. I am from the south, a small town of North Carolina now to hear that word used there I would honestly get offended. White people fail to realize its just something that is uncomfortable. We often can tell when people are trying to be funny and being racist. I will admit, I have had friends throughout middle school and high school who have used the N-word. Consequently they were white, my reaction wasn't so much as hate, but it just did not sound good coming from someone who not of my ethnicity. I agree with Sheryl Underwood completely, she is the perfect example, I feel she was a great representative for black people especially black women.  Paul Mooney and extraordinary actor, I have seen several of his acts and each time I walk away laughing. I feel with time as generations tend to go on the word will become less of an issue.

 
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September 12, 2008, 9:39 pm PDT

Re: today's show

First off, Thank you Dr Phil for providing a forum for this issue. I hope that there will be a follow up show that will address the underlying issues mentioned in the show.  As a white person I can not get behind the argument I hear from some white folks regarding using the N word publicly.  The world is full of double standards and this is only one of many.  I have been in a long term with a black person for several years and hear the word on a daily basis.  We often become de-sensitized to words and images but this is a word I chose to personally not use. 

Of course we as white folks can relate to black folks on many levels.  We may work the same jobs or live in the same neighborhoods, but I know better.  There are some things I will never be able to relate to.  We need to remember the baggage and history that comes with this word. Doesn't mater if you say the word with the modern ending of ***ga or the old fashioned version ending in ***ger they both have the same roots.  The issue is not about censorship, its about common sense.  If some black folks choose to use the word in their daily life which my lover does, its their business. But unless you are black you have no business using the word, whatever your tone.

Also BET was brought up.  BET is nothing more than a marketing tool owned by a huge corporation which was meant to bring a traditionally urban art form from the inner cities to the masses .  The folks who run BET should be ashamed of themselves.  They need to step up and say that they will no longer promote artists who degrade women and promote violence.  It's one thing to talk about the struggles you face and another to promote violence.

Since I am not black in America I can not fully relate but I will give you an example that is common for me as a gay man.  If I see another gay person I know I may greet them by saying something to the effect of "Hey fagot". However if someone who is not gay were to greet me in that manner it would have a much different impact. 

So to the white folks who wonder why they can't use that word I say leave it alone, it is not for everybody.  But thank you Dr Phil, It was a good show.  I respect and admire all of the panelist on this show.

 
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September 12, 2008, 9:49 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

I personally do not agree with me, my friends or my family using this term. But also, who am I to say what other people not in my circle can or cannot say? I think with this particular topic it's easy for people to jump on their soap box, just like any subject individuals are passionate about. All I have to say is that I feel that Paul Mooney has some anger! I think this is a topic he may be passionate about, but I saw anger in him when he was yelling and being very disrespectful in my opinion to the two women that chose to address him.

 

I am an Asian American, Japanese American to be specific. I know that my country men living in America (and not) were discriminated against during WWII. But I don't chose to dwell in that negative past, nor do I ever want to embrace any negative term that may have come from that part of history. I understand that people have their own opinions that they have full rights to. But I think that some people tend to define themselves by what happened in our history. Yes, it's part of how we got to where we are today but it does not by any means define individuals and determine their destinies. So I chose to not carry the hurt and pain I felt when my ex-boyfriend told me I would never be able to meet his grandfather because "he hated Koreans and he may mistake me for one."

 

I live my life for myself and who I am today. And I work on educating people about diversity and acceptance of all races, cultures, and creeds. And I express as being a past speech professor, that the words you use have negative and positive impacts on people, and tells people a lot about you as a person as well. I would not get so angry at someone that I disrespect him/her on national television by yelling  "shut up!" and "you don't understand! NO YOU DON'T!" Throw up my hands and look to the sky in annoyance. Just as explained in the show that the N-word shows ignorance, I think actions show ignorance and intolerance as well. And I think Paul Mooney gave the public that impression today. Not that I knew who he was before the show, but I surely won't get to know him now.

 
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September 12, 2008, 9:52 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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Hello Dr. Phil, My name is JaLeesha, I am 20 years old and I am a junior in college. Today by far was the day, I made sure I watched your show. This topic is such a controversy among blacks and whites. I will be candor, I use the word with my friends and when I am making a gesture towards a male who promiscuous and no good. I feel the word only has power if you give it power. My grandmother and I are at different stand points on this word, she feels the word should never be used and thats a pejorative word used towards blacks. For myself it a cultural norm, I hear the word in songs with rappers and in my environment in school. Reluctantly, I was not raised in a home where the word frequent my parents lips. I have become cultured over the years and have grown beyond what people seem to see the surface meaning. I feel as black people we have created negative to a positive. I think what some people fail to realize is that its all about the generation you come from. My grandmother came from an era in time where there was segregation, my mother came from a time where there was segregation to integration, and with me I have been able to experience the Idea of the melting pot. I am from the south, a small town of North Carolina now to hear that word used there I would honestly get offended. White people fail to realize its just something that is uncomfortable. We often can tell when people are trying to be funny and being racist. I will admit, I have had friends throughout middle school and high school who have used the N-word. Consequently they were white, my reaction wasn't so much as hate, but it just did not sound good coming from someone who not of my ethnicity. I agree with Sheryl Underwood completely, she is the perfect example, I feel she was a great representative for black people especially black women.  Paul Mooney and extraordinary actor, I have seen several of his acts and each time I walk away laughing. I feel with time as generations tend to go on the word will become less of an issue.

"I feel the word only has power if you give it power."

Couldn't agree more.
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:53 pm PDT

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 I am sorry. I think this is all so ridiculous! I have never been racist in my life but if I hear one more complaint from the blacks I think I will throw up! It seems as though this is all we hear about anymore. The big "N" word, That blacks can't get good jobs, how the police and every other race ( mexican, white, etc.) are prejudice against the blacks, how they were slaves, how there is more blacks in jail than whites. Give it up people! Blacks CAN get good jobs, you were not slaves your ancesters were, blacks commit more crime which is why there are more of them in jail. If I was ticked off my whole life about the color of my skin and what people were saying about me I would not have time to get a good job either! If I was in a gang a shooting people up...I would be in jail too. So stop using racism as an excuse, put your gun down, get off your couch, and get a job!!!! You want to talk racism? How about BET or the United Negro College Fund. I'll tell ya if there was a WET channel or a United Caucasion College Fund there would be lawsuits and picket lines! I am a woman so I think the next time I don't get the better job I will call racism, it seems to be working.
"I have never been racist in my life..."

I see you're trying something new here then...
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:57 pm PDT

the white N word

I myself have issues with the show.I feel for being a debate there were not enough White people up on the panel to speak out  for our views and how we perceive the N word. One white man is no equality of any sort,to equally  balance the debate at hand.

I feel that The back race uneducated their own, to were media and culture  praises the N word and uses it as they see fit. Regardless if it  is right or wrong.  I myself am WHITE born and raised in America. I do not refer to myself as a WHITE AMERICAN. The blacks  in this day an age use the status title of African American to status themselves, their not from Africa.They were born here. Their American. Just like myself. They have equal if not more rights.Their not treated as slaves in our society! I have also seen great use of the N word with their own people. They except the term and use. why can't we?

      I as a white woman have no problem with the N word. I don't feel the N word should be abolished or illegal. We have  freedom of speech in this country. Just like we have the right to bare arms. So when the Blacks stop using the word ,we will.

 
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