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Topic : 09/12 The N-Word Debate

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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 13, 2008, 12:57 pm PDT

The "N" Word

I agree that the "N" word shouldn't be used. I only wish The "F" word the "C" word, the "B" word and taking the Lord's name in vain would get as much attention as the "N" word.  Being called those other words are just as hurtful to the person on the receiving end regardless of what race you are.
 
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September 13, 2008, 12:58 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: davidhgi

I wish someone would enlighten me as to why White people feel they have a stake in this debate. So Black people (some, anyway) can say it to each other but White people can't, so what? Do you want to? Then go ahead. It'll say more about you than anything else you do and you would have to suffer the consequences of being judged as a racist or a bigot.

I've yet to see one of the "Get Over It" folks on this board discuss the doll test that Paul Mooney brought up or the resume test Hill Harper brought up. White folks rarely want to discuss the very serious, pervasive institutional racism that continues affect Black people in the nation. Forget hundreds of years ago,  let's talk all of the things that were used to oppress Black folks AFTER slavery, who's effects are still being felt in our community today (redlining, for instance).

The doll test failed because her parents failed her. Take the test with a child that is taught their beauty, and not what is seen on tv and I'm sure we would have a every different ending.

 

how long do i have to pay for what I have never none??? and what my ancesters have never done. Some gave their life to free the Slaves and never owned one. I don't inslave you, you inslave yourself.

 

many are red lined  do to race, gender, where they live, their weight, their religion. Black skin is not the only other skin out there who have felt racism, I know that they like to think they are but they are not.

 
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September 13, 2008, 1:08 pm PDT

Why Dr. Phil?

I really don't know why Dr. Phil puts these kind of shows on the air. He says it's to bring races closer but it obviously didn't do that on this show. Why in the world would he have Paul Mooney on his panel? This man is full of rage and hates the white race. A lot of black people need to drop the attitude! You want respect? Start respecting yourselves and your families. I have met some blacks that are kind and truly don't care what race you are. But many have right away been rude to me and won't even say "hello." I know don't go out of my way to be friendly to them unless they're friendly first.

Black people need to step up and own their part in racism.

No, I don't think anyone should use the N word.

 

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September 13, 2008, 1:10 pm PDT

The N-word debate

I am a 45y/o Native American / White woman. I grew up in mixed neighborhoods. I have 3 daughters. When our 2nd daughter was old enough to tell us which dolls she wanted she choose the black dolls and we bought them for her. When she was old enough to tell us she wanted children she told us she wanted black babies. We taught our girls to respect ALL people. When someone would use the N word my girls knew it was wrong and they would tell their friends NOT to use that word. I have black friends who use this word, one tells me that you don't have to be black, white, irish, indian whatever if you were a bad person then you were a N. My personal opinion is that NO ONE should EVER use the N word, its just WRONG!
 
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September 13, 2008, 1:13 pm PDT

the n word

personally i think the n word should be banished from everybody's vocabulary. Who cares if you don't have any "racist" intentions behind saying it? You shouldn't be saying it at all. If caucasians know how african americans react to that word when they use it, then why even push their buttons and say it? If you know it brings up a hateful past then why say it?!?! Same thing to african americans, we shouldn't be using it either. It's almost as if us using it, gives other races the permission to think its okay to use it. we think that other races owe us something because of what our ancestors went through, and while that may be true, we can't keep being hypocrites. We need to seriously do away with the word, and focus on the bigger things happening.
 
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September 13, 2008, 1:19 pm PDT

good for you

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I am 61 years ol, grew up in the suburbs of Los Angeles and never experienced racisim.  I wasn't taught it, I just never knew about it.  I learned about it when I married a militarty man and lived all over the place.  When I learned that a friend of mine from Florida would not get on a bus if the driver was black, it made me laugh.  I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.  Then my black neighbors told me what they had gone thorough when growing up, couldn't try on clothes they wanted to buy, etc.  I was mad.  I know my mind, and If I had been born black and lived in their area I would be dead.  Now I am a very proud and happy gramma of a black grandson and he considers himswelf black.  I try to teach him all I can about his history, try to keep him from going into the gangs (white or black or hispanic, asian).  I want him to carry himself with pride, be smart, make the right choices and tell him how it is.  He has a great sense of humor, manners, and he does not even think about "what" his friends are.  I see lots of people looking at him then looking at me and I know it is because he is so handsome, how could it possibly be anything else?

 

Children live what they learn.

my mother is 80.  I have 5 bio-racial children. well they are mostly grown now. at first she disowned me.

i tried to keep the lines of communication open. but, what can i say. sometimes i get really bitter about the way she treated me and my children. my oldest daughter had a baby that was premature. it held on to life for 2 months and died. I was devasted. my family never came to the service. we had a bad snow that year.

i am not close to my side of the family at all. i keep in contact sometimes but i still have that resentment that will follow me to my grave. i was born in the late 50's and i grew up watching the violence towards blacks. i was appalled. hurt, angry ...i had found that i was more easily accepted in the black community that the blacks were accepted in the whites. however, i have heard the race card played when it is convieniant. i don't feel i am responsible for what someones ancestors do. i just do my part. if you treat me right. i will treat you right. i want the same respect that you want. your grandchild is lucky to have you for a grandparent. not all children are so lucky to have someone love them because they are who they are.

good luck in the world. i wish you the best.

 
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September 13, 2008, 1:20 pm PDT

stephb1169

You made a good point about attitude this a.m. In this day and time more than ever we need to unite as one people in USA for both our individual and collective sakes. "Be the change you want to see" just like "Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me."

I'm with you on people are people. Dr. Phil, a fellow Okie, said on Dr. Phil Show that he was blessed to be in sports since so racially diverse. I was blessed to grow up in a college town for the same reason. To this day, my favorite restaurant there is Misal of India for Vegetable Samosa, Salty Lassi and Lebanese Rose Tea. Well, there and Montford Inn B&B gourmet breakfast included in their room rate.

It sounds like, to me, a lot of people on here need a vacation to rejuvenate so let me suggest to those putting off visits to family since hating motel and hotels. Check out Bed and Breakfasts. Just search for City and State and I think even different countries, now. My mother and I did for our birthdays a few months before she passed away. A mother/daughter slumber party treasured memory.

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September 13, 2008, 1:21 pm PDT

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Quote From: davidhgi

There were so many points in your post that are wrong but you don't know me so how about you bring up those same things to all your Black friends and hopefully they'll help you see how wrong you are.

You don't know me either but obviously you didn't read it all.

 
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September 13, 2008, 1:22 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: joijoi

Its obvious that Paul is wrong about what he promotes, but, you are just like him.  You cannot tell an AA to "go back to Africa", because, we did not come from Africa.  Our ancestors were brought here by your ancestors to be their slaves.   The slave women were raped by their slavemasters.  Who knows, you may have a drop of black blood in you, which means, oops, you're black.  Then maybe you should "go back to Africa". Get your facts straight, and YOU "get over it", YOUR UNintelligence is showing!  Duh!
so why is it that if you have a drop of "black" blood in you you're black, but if you have a drop of "white" blood in you, god forbid you say you're "white." blood is all the same anyway, so it's a stupid thing to say.
 
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September 13, 2008, 1:29 pm PDT

*Sharpton *

Quote From: cornell74

Watch how Al Sharpton takes what I say and totally twists it! Now to me he is racist.

Al Sharpton is a joke, just about as much of a joke as Jesse Jackson. How did they get to be called Rev. what church do they represent.  I was so angry with the Mooney guy, loud talking everyone I could hardly stand it. He no more came to this country as a slave than I can rise and fly. Maybe a loooooooooong time ago some of his ancestors were brought here as slaves. I think if it is so tough here go somewhere where if you do or say anything the least bit wrong - you may not be seen or heard of again.

Hang in there Rachel from the show, you are holding your own quite well.

 
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