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Topic : 09/12 The N-Word Debate

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Created on : Thursday, September 04, 2008, 12:16:52 pm
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This two-syllable expression is arguably the most divisive word in society. Dr. Phil tackles this touchy topic with help from a panel of outspoken luminaries: civil rights activist Rev. Al Sharpton; legendary comedian and writer Paul Mooney; CSI actor and author Hill Harper; comedian Sheryl Underwood and conservative radio talk show host Michael Graham. First, is there a double standard that allows African-Americans to use this sensitive word, while non-blacks are forbidden? The debate heats up when Rachel, a white guest, says she calls her husband the N-word all the time. Then, should hip-hop artists be censored or fined for using the N-word in their songs? Becky says rappers promote negative stereotypes with their lyrics, but find out who Rev. Al Sharpton thinks should face the music. Plus, does tone or intent make a difference when using the N-word? See what Dr. Phil thinks and share your thoughts here.

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September 15, 2008, 2:33 pm PDT

OMG!!

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you have no clue what it means to be african american in america. to tell someone to get over themselves tells me i am right about saying you have no clue. when people get your resume and do not go pass your name because it sound black and they throw it away. when you look into your family history you will be able to find everyone with time. but when i look, there are people who i will never find. you see things like negro sold for 500. there is no name, no picture, no nothing but a price which they were sold. when you can do that then i will get over it. I do not use the n word EVERY. I DO NOT LIKE IT. I know the history, and i still see it everyday in the south. It is so funny that in school there is american and european history but no african american history. To learn about my history i have to fight the university to even get a class on the roster. then you will know how it feels to be treated like you are no one and are lower than any other race. when your children are in the schools that are over the limit and underfunded and to go to another school in the burbs and see the they are taught and the way the school is run, then tell me to get over it.

You have got to be kidding. First, predjudice thing was "i still see it everyday in the south." WHAT!?! I am from the south where there are many black people that are idols to children, young adulds and other aspiring people. I work with many black people, go to school with many black people and go to church with black people, but none of them feel discriminated, except for the rare occasion. (there is always some). So don't tell me that because I'm from the "south" that makes me a racist. Second, There is an entire MONTH dedicaded to black history, is there white history month, latino history month, canadian history month??? There is a national holiday after a very well known african american. As for the school, the school's funds and education is only as good as where it is, if you go to a town or city that has a high povery rate, the school is ABSOLUTELY going to be worse off than a school in a suburb or higher grossing area. You can see that in my town, on one side of the highway the school has less funding, with less supplies and less extra-curricular activities, but on the other side of the highway in the same city, the school has more amendities than my university. It is only the nature of money, not race because both of these schools have the same mix of all races, but if one side is poorer, that does not mean they are black, or latino, and the other side is white, it is equally mixed. I, in school, get the same opportunities given to me as the blacks, latinos, asians etc in everything, except for their groups, ebony society, latino society, asian society, etc, but we do not have a caucasian society. I am truly sorry about your family history, if your ancestors were brought here to be slaves. I am also truly sorry to the Jews and Catholics that were persecuted and tortured in WWII that was not my fault, but the fault of a distant relative. But when we are delt a hand, you either play it, or fold. You cannot complain so much and get a better hand, you have to deal with the one you got, and maybe next go round it will be better, maybe not. There are so many well-off african american - or jamaican american, or brazilian-american, lets just call them black, because not all are from africa, that it proves you do not need to rely on your disadvantages to keep you down, you make them empower you, and keep moving on. So yes, GET OVER IT!!!

 
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September 15, 2008, 2:37 pm PDT

What I Learned

I am a biracial  female who grew up in the city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and I have to say that I have grown up casually using this word. After watching this episode I have realized that by me using his word there are people who will assume that I feel I have some right to use the word, and that is not how I feel about it. I feel that as a young person I have never really thought about the impact using this word can have. I believe that it is damaging for intelligent people who know the affects this word can have can justify still using it. It is worse for those who have been affected by this word to feel it is ok to somehow "reclaim" it. A word cannot be reclaimed or accepted unless it can be used by everyone without it having a stinging affect to another person, and with this word that is and will always be impossible. I will no longer use this word now that I understand the true consequences this word has on our society as a whole. I have to say that as a young person growing up in an urban area it frustrates me how accepted it is to use this word on a regular basis and in my personal experiance by people of EVERY race. It is used to describe men, friends, enemies, family, children, ignorant people, etc... There real words for these things and the meaning of the N word will never change. I no longer want to continue aiding in the perpetuation of this ignorance. It must stop.
 
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September 15, 2008, 3:15 pm PDT

History...

History provides a lot of different feelings to a lot of different people. My honest opionion is that using the N-word is wrong in any context which it is used in modern day. No one can have nonchalant feelings toward any word used on a constant basis in any situation. Whether the reaction is to darling or idiot there will always be some type of reaction. That being said why do we need to add to the negative feelings that exist already.

 

I do have one more comment to Paul Mooney if the African-American community does not place history where it belongs racism will never end-truly end. It was his ancestors who were wrongfully and forcefully brought from Africa and used as slaves. Having a Mexican Ancestory there have been wrongs done to our race as well but we live for today not for yesterdays injustices. Embrace what you are and what you have now not what your ancestors suffered. Remember it and honor it just stop living in it or for it. That gives more power to racism than the N-word alone could ever do.

 
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September 15, 2008, 3:25 pm PDT

im rachel from the show

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I don't know about you guys, but this show wasn't televised in the LA area on Friday like the website says.  I have Verizon FiOS.  The caption under info said it was going to be that show but it was actually the weight loss show.  My neighbor who has Charter tv said he had the same problem so I know it's not just my cable carrier.  Anybody else experience this problem?  I'm looking to watch this show but can't find it.  Thanks.
yes many people have had this happen. Dr. Phil was put behind in some areas. It did not show in Michigan, however it is going to be played in Michigan tomorrow Tuesday 9-16. It should be playing again in your area as well. check your cable guide.
 

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September 15, 2008, 3:29 pm PDT

Not encouraging

     If we can't so much as agree to be respectful or at least courteous to eachother, we're not going to go forward anytime soon. If anything, we risk relapsing. I'm sure that the KKK, White Knights, Neo Nazis, Black Panthers, Reverend Wright, and many others are more than pleased with us.

    This really is a vicious cycle we're in. If we continue, we'll eventually alienate more and more of us from each other, and it only becomes the question of what will happen next. It really is that simple. All people have a tolerance rate. All people will eventually explode.

    It's really simple. Whites who mistreat other ethnic backgrounds in this case blacks. Reverend Wright and the Black Panthers begins to make sense.

    Blacks who mistreat whites, and then the KKK, Neo Nazis, and White Knights begin to make sense.

 

     If we are trying to create hatred and feed the issue, I think; we're doing a good job. If not, we're doing horrible.

 
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September 15, 2008, 3:35 pm PDT

The "N" Word

You know, I was raised in a really small town with only 2 or 3 African-Americans who lived there. I watched this show with disgust because I may be a white female. I cannot say the "N" word because to me it is a dirty foul word. I do not like the word. Everyone I know can say it & not think anything of it, but I have more self respect than to say that word.
 
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September 15, 2008, 3:36 pm PDT

Because of our past

You know I watched the show my self with  my family on Friday,  this is One i had to actually Record..After watching i was very upset hearing one of the Guest say "Blacks need to get over slavery" because of slavery i am only able to trace my family history back 3 generations I am a 30 year old female..

Because of slavery my people are not real sure what we are supposed to beleive religion wise and because of slavery I can't inform my children of where there Great Grandmothers were born only were they were raised..Because you may be able to trace your Blood line i can see were you would have the audacity to say GET OVER IT but before you Judge what we have not gone through try understanding were we are now...And some one please answer me this, Why is it that a White person has never gone on National TV and said to The Jewish Desendents of the Holocust and said get over that? (no disrespect intended to those who anscetors suffered that was a tragedy, I'm only stating that to make a point.)

 
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September 15, 2008, 3:45 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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 I don't understand how this man gained so much fame and respect, when he rose to those by lying and perpetrating a fraud?  Why is it okay that the African Americans can spew hatred about anyone and none of them are taken to task? Did the media go balistic and criticize Kanye West after his outburst on TV after hurricaine Katrina? No, they replayed  it as a condemnation of the Bush administration?  An African American child calling a white overweight child fat is as hurtful to the white child as the "N" word to the African American. I doubt if any uproar would be made about the child being called fat.

The media knew that Bush was wrong for the way he treated Katrina victims and I seen plenty of news anchors themselves say that things would have been different if the victims weren't black.  That wasn't a good example, sorry.
 
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September 15, 2008, 3:52 pm PDT

The N-Word

I grew up in city in Northern New York where I graduated from High School with one Black person in the class.  The way that I was raised is that I need to respect other people not matter if you are white, black,  or purple.  Some of the other people in this city don't think like that they are racist against black people and my friend in high school her father didn't approve of her going to a college where there were going to be black people.  I have never said the word and never will say the word because it is disrespectful.  I now live in a more diverse city and the park across of my boyfriend's house on the weekend all you can see are black people.  We will walk the dog and they will shy away from the dog thinking that he is going to attack them.  The dog will run up to someone with a tennis ball in his mouth.  It is sad to think that they are so afraid of a golden retriver dog who is the most friendlist dog in the world and wouldn't hurt a fly.
 
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September 15, 2008, 3:59 pm PDT

excellent

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I was thinking about this earlier...

 

My grandmother is full blooded Chippewa, my dad was irish so even though I have brown/green eyes and dark hair, I'm still considered a "white girl" and I think that we have just as much to complain about as the "black" people... I mean look at what the  "white man" did to our people...  I'm just saying... good point!

I was actually looking for a post with this context. The only two nationalities that need American tacked onto their race are?????? Yup you guessed it American Indian and African American. Listen, when we stop trying to distinguish that we are anything but American then we can start to live in the present. The fact that there is a distinction screams racism.

 

 

 
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