Topic : 09/12 The N-Word Debate

Yes, I  agree that there are more important things to talk about. But, in response to your comment about Blacks using the word n***** in their songs. That's a generalization. They are not our songs as you say. They are the songs of ignorant, selfish individuals, who exploit their own people. Besides, why don't you pose that question to the record company owners, many of whom are white. I often wonder if these same rappers wanted to use other degrading racists slurs, such as those directed towards whites or other non-blacks, would they permit it? I doubt it. And yes, Def jam may be owned by Russel Simmons, but as aforementioned some blacks will exploit there own mother to make a living. Lastly, although Blacks can be prejudice, as long as the current non-black power structure controls the wealth, means of production, and political system in this country, We can never be racist. To be racist is to have the ability to impose

your standards of beauty, religious beliefs, economic policies,political ideology, etc, upon another group.

nlambert21,

                      How do you know there are more Blacks on welfare than Whites?

"Ban the -N- word" Are you crazy ? It's an attention grabber for sure and the media can't get enough of it .If you banned it we would probably see less of Sharpton and Jackson in the news for sure. Someone has already wrote on here to use it at your own risk and I agree. My boss is fat so I hardly ever here fat jokes on the floor at work and I damm sure don't tell any when she is around. I think common since might make a come back some day and I hope I live to see it happen. Most people of normal intelligence can tell within a sentence or two being uttered my someone you just meet what level they are on . Not that I am superior or inferior to anyone . I was taught as a child that not everyone is going to like you or what you have to say . I am almost sure with a great degree of certainty that most of the people that this topic is a big issue in their life are not registered voters.I have to say I had to work and missed the show when it aired but caught only the second half of it when it aired the second time on channel-9 here in L.A. I wonder if Dr. Phil would consider having Paul Mooney be his audience warm up guy . I promise you that if you ever saw Paul Mooney on stage at one of the clubs here in L.A. or where ever you would laugh harder than you ever had. His humor is so off the chart I can't explain it . Rev Al  looked pissed the whole time he was on the show and nobody called him anything he was just mad . The only reason th media loves him and Jackson is because they know that everytime they do a piece on either one of them it pisses white people off . I have to give them some props that in there day they my have had some good intentions ,but niether one of them has ever held an office in the Government and they don't have the power or the real desire to change anything that would be useful to anybody .I don't like or dis-like either one of them but I see right through there motives and agendas.You can only be lead if your willing to follow . If they were on a crusade to do something good for poor people like taking the profit out of street drugs so the cops could quit practicing new tactics in the poor neighborhoods and trailer parks on people that are already having a hard go of it in life ,I would applaude and respect that. The N word is offensive I do agree ,but I think promoting that you will never be anything more than a victim of your circumstance and surroundings is far worse. This is America the greatest country in the world and you can be anything you want to be . The only person that I don't think would ever use the N word is Billy Gram ,as far as I am concerned all the rest of those T.V. preachers are going straight to the hell,save for a couple of them that I think are sincere.Well that's about all I have to say about that show ,Oh Wait one more thing about the experts on the panel. Paul Mooney is the only one on that panel that is an expert on the N word ,because he took it made it funny a long time ago,he tells the truth about it and paints a picture that nobody wants to look at cause it's the truth that nobody want's to look at and he such a comedy genius if you take what he says personal you are exactly the type of person he is talking about white or black. Some comics get boring after you have seen them doing the same thing over and over you can't wait for them to get a sit com or something so they can have somebody writing something different for them to say,But I you can watch Paul Mooney and never get enough and he will never bore you . A lot of comics have taken some his best stuff and changed it a little bit went far with it ,some of them bomb bad with it though ie:Micheal Richards. Gotta be Mooney to pull it off right is all I can say.Now that's all I got to say about the N word

What a frustrating topic.  I thought Hill Harper was very well spoken and was able to get his point across with a good tone of voice.  Paul Mooney appears to want to keep the separation between races and did come across as being raciest by the way he talked to others of a different race, raised his voice, talked over what others were saying because he felt what he had to say was more important and held more weight.  He did this all while talking down to them.  I guarantee that if it was Graham that said he would never be with Sheryl that it would have been considered a raciest remark but it is OK for Sheryl to say she would never be with him and it is suppose to be funny.  It was a RUDE comment aimed only to embarrass him.  Sounded raciest to me as well.  To the person that is so into telling other about "us" as a race and how white people do have their own TV channels.  You will never see the White Entertainment TV as a channel, or White Miss America Pageant, or American Indian Miss USA Pageant, or a Dominantly based Mexican race college.  Why, because all of those would be considered raciest to the African American community.  I have never seen a "white" person enter the Miss Black USA pageant because they needed a quota of entries.  I think the audience member who said that this was based on people giving the word power is right.  Because it has been used in a negative term that is what people will think of first.  Just like in South Carolina, they took the rebel flag down from the State House.  It did not matter that it was a sign of the history of SC, weather it is good or bad, or that many died of all races during that period.  They took it down because there were white people who used it as a negative symbol.  So even though I know that it is a sign of the SC history, that we can't change, and that we are not proud of, that flag had to be taken down because of the negative symbolism that was attached to it.  As far as the get over it comment.  I get that.  I have had a rough life and sometimes things just stink but I don't walk around and blame every other thing that doesn't go my way based on the past.  I am American Indian and history shows land was taken from them.  You don't see them in a uproar blaming those acts that took place before their time on the things that are not going their way now.  If you are of another race than black then you are not allowed to disagree with something that a black person says because you are then considered raciest.  If something doesn't go their way then it is comes down to being because of their race.  Why can it not be because of their attitude, or because of rules set or something.  I don't think that there will ever be a world without racism because the black community wants to keep things separate and it seems to be OK but if any other race does that then they are raciest.  I am American Indian and I like Barack Obama for him.  Not because he is black but my black friends say that they only support him because of his race.  Though I think he will win, I do believe that if he doesn't it will not be because the AMERICA  people wanted someone with different ideas.  It will be perceived that he didn't win because of his race.  People of other races than black are always trapped because they will always be accused of racism first in a heated situation and a situation will never be explained that maybe they were reacting to the person being rude and breaking rules.  Oh no, no one wants to hear that side of it.  It is just so frustrating because it always seems like the black community is raciest against the white community yet the white community is always the ones being accused of the raciest if they argue or express a different opinion.