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September 12, 2008, 8:30 pm PDT

FORGIVE

The N word...

Do you really think that God sees different colors when He looks at  all of us?

We better learn to love each other, and get past all of the mistreatment's done years ago, by our ancestors.

We can stop all of this hate, one person at a time, in our homes, schools, churches and communities.

 
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September 12, 2008, 8:37 pm PDT

The n word

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I watched your show today and was intrigued by the subject.  I want to thank you for the diverse panel as well as the diverse participants in the audience.  I, too, have an opinion about the "n" word.  I am African American and I lived through the late 50s and the early 60s in Little Rock, AR.  I remember a lot of stuff that went on during the Central High Crisis.  I went to all-black grade schools and didn't really experience "integration" until I went to college.  Well, I prefaced this to say that those experiences dictate how I feel about white people calling me the "n" word.  Our children, and grandchildren, white and black, don't have the same harsh experiences to identify with and may have less of a problem with the"n" word.  I believe that as we older folk die off with our feelings it will become a word that nobody hates and everybody will be called.  It aint going to die.  Too many black folk like it.  Too many folk use it.  It'll become like "Methodist" as well as it should.  "Methodist" was used in a derrogative way when it was first used to identify that group.  They refused to allow it to be negative for them and today we are called Methodists.  We have got to get over the word.  We have got to give it the intimate meaning it has for so many of us.  I believe that time will heal the word.  Now, I say I've earned the right to be called "N" by my people, Empress "N" if you must is what I say, but only black folk can say that to me. We wear the word together.  However, to see the young lawyer sister say she calls all her friends that made me realize that that's probably what will happen as the races mix more and more.  Take the sting out of the word.  Just because it was bad once doesn't make it bad forever.  Just like "bad" became good during the slang of the late sixties, so will the "n" word go.  Once the negative is taken away, it'll be an okay word. 

 

To the young lady who thought the gentleman had a chip.  She's right.  We of my age group got big chips.  She's never been where we've been.  She's never had to feel what we've had to feel.  Sure our great grand parents were the slaves, but Jim Crow lasted forever.  We were not treated any better than our fore parents for a long, long, time.  And, there are still instances when we feel the sting of that old mentality.  I understood everything and every word said on that stage by the black panelists.  I also appreciate the concern of the white panelist.  (Glad you didn't have a proclaimed racist up there.  Might have been a real fight.)

 

Now, to the young lady in the audience who said she was afraid and apprehensive about black guys who have that  (I'll call it) gangsta look.  Don't worry.  I am just as apprehensive when I walk pass some white guys who look like what I call the KKK and skin heads and I have far more reason to fear than she does.  When I see that Confederate flag and army fatigues together I get down right scared.  Historically, these are the emblems of white supremists. I've experienced first hand what can happen when some white folk get that crazy stuff going on and I don't ever want to experience it again.  Fortunately for my friend and I, a kind white gentleman helped us.  I was nine and she was eight.  They were teen aged boys up to no good.  My friend saw the gentleman sitting on the porch and ran to him.  Fortunately, these were days when the young still respected the elderly and he made them leave us alone.  I will never forget the fear.  They were chasing us with a switch blade knife.  Thank God for that old gentleman.  I don't know what would have happened because you could feel the electricity in the atmosphere. 

You are so right, army fatigues and a conferate flag are tipical white supremist emblems, and they to mam, are ignorant. I do believe that there is also "thugish" white people also, but we call them white trash,and criminals for the most part! They will kill, rob, steal and rape just like the other races. I do think for the most part, we all need to take an American History again, maybe some of us will actually learn something this time instead of taking uneducated gueses about what the N word means and  what the Confederte Flag represents!
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:38 pm PDT

The N-Word

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I am the mother of 2 bi-racial children.  I have listened to my husband, his family and friends used the N....frequently, however have never used it or even thought of saying it at anytime.  Not to my husband, not joking around,not intimately.  I don't like it to be used around my children and my husband feels the same.  However, I received a huge eye opener a few days ago.  My 14 year old daughter came home from high school very upset and could  hardly explain to me what was wrong.  She showed me a text message she received from a white boy that she refused to go out with.  He called her  f....... N.........! What kind of parents does he have? This was my first thought, I was so hurt, could not believe what I was reading, and was devastated for my daughter.  We did not know what to make out of the situation.  I am part American Indian and white and can understand a very small part of the racism, but can not under any means understand the issues that come from the racism against the black community.  To the lady with Mexican blood in her veins, advised Mr. Mooney to "get over it" !  How do I tell my children to "get over it"?  Slavery blood runs their veins just as Mexican runs through yours.  This is an important part of  their lives. We all have a story, How can we take back what was started so many years ago?  We all know what the word means when it is said by a selected race.  It can be endearing between two people, but it can be hateful when used by the wrong people.  How did this term become so powerful?

I I am so sorry that your daughter received such a horrible email.  No child should ever be subject to such disgusting comments.  But what I do want to say as a white woman is this:  Yes you have a history story but you also have a new story-a far more exciting and better story to come.  Slavery is over thank God.  It is in the past.  What the Mexican lady of decent was trying to say is get over the past and move on.  The jewish people are a wonderful example of this.  They never forgot but they have moved on. They have forgiven.   I felt Paul Mooney was an embarrassment  and was not helpful at all.  If he wants people to treat him with dignity and respect, he needs to do the same.  Also, I feel the N-Word should never be used by anyone.  It is a negative disgusting word that has a horrific history attached to it.

 
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September 12, 2008, 8:41 pm PDT

the n word

k im sry but the n word is just a word jus like the b word just ike the f word all the words in this world why does it just have to be about the n word r you going to have a show on the b word next i really think it was a waste of time if people really didnt like it then they would encourage people to stop usin it  but thats not going to happen because the africn americans use it all the time and im not saying that its just them its caucasions too and all the people in the world all i have to say is ifu dont like it andsomeone says it say please dont say that and walk away the n word and the b word and the f word and all the bad names people call one another r not going to stop just ignore it u dont like it
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:48 pm PDT

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I am white, 63, female.  First, I thought this was a great beginning.  I hope you will have more.  I personally would never use the N word.  I feel it is a derogatory term coming from the history of white slave ownership trying to keep slaves in their places. 

I do not believe it should be used in recordings because it spreads hatred.

I'm not sure if Paul Mooney is a reverse racist.  He seems to have a lot of hatred in his heart.  To me, this keeps him from being effective in getting over his opinions, a lot of which I agree.

I have taught my kids & grand-kids not to use the N word or the swastika symbol and other racist terms because of what their meaning in history.

I grew up in the East End of Cincinnati.  I lived in a white neighborhood.  I went to an all white Catholic school.  The "colored" as they were termed in the 50's started 3 blocks away from my street.  Whites were not allowed to go there.  My two brothers were because they were friends with the Redburns, a black family.  I was about the only white girl who was allowed to ride my bike, run through the alley and visit black homes in their neighborhood.. 
I was not aware of racism until I brought one of my little colored girl friends home.  My mom was polite, gave us a snack.  When my black friend left, my mom told me she could not come back.  Basically, so that I would survive my white friends and not be called names.  That burned a hole in my brain & I never forgot.  I was about 8 or 9 years old.
My next encounter with racism was when I visited Nashville.  Several of my family were walking down the street.  A black guy was walking towards us and went out into the street.  It was not because of anything we did, I found out.  It was the way things were then. I was about 13 years old.
Unlike my sister & a lot of my friends, I never had any problems in my public high school with black people.  No fights, no threats, etc.
I have used the terms of the period.  I now use the term African Americans. 

What I am confused about is why that term is used.  I am Irish, but I do not use the term Irish American when asked.  I am American first, with an Irish heritage.  I am curious why a person from Germany or Isreal, when asked what they are say Jew.  To me this is a religious connotation, not a country or origin term.

I am also confused about why the Irish celebrate one day a year for their heritage (St Patrick's Day), but the African Americans have a month, I believe it is February.  Don't get me wrong, I'm just curious.

I hate racism.  I think it hurts the person who hates more than it does others.  This includes homophobia.

I did not intend to be so long, but the show really affected me.

Regards
Keep up the good work.  I like this kind of show more than your other types.
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:52 pm PDT

N word

Quote From: dhillon321

I I am so sorry that your daughter received such a horrible email.  No child should ever be subject to such disgusting comments.  But what I do want to say as a white woman is this:  Yes you have a history story but you also have a new story-a far more exciting and better story to come.  Slavery is over thank God.  It is in the past.  What the Mexican lady of decent was trying to say is get over the past and move on.  The jewish people are a wonderful example of this.  They never forgot but they have moved on. They have forgiven.   I felt Paul Mooney was an embarrassment  and was not helpful at all.  If he wants people to treat him with dignity and respect, he needs to do the same.  Also, I feel the N-Word should never be used by anyone.  It is a negative disgusting word that has a horrific history attached to it.

I tell you, if I was black I would have been embarrassed to even call Mr. Mooney one of the same race. He was sickning and so out of context. Hey Mr. Moony, check yourself, because as it stands now you are the "pot calling the kettle black" And it really is time to move on. Teach your children not to date people like that because they are ignorant apparently. I know as a mother of four girls I would steer them towards the smart educated ones!
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:04 pm PDT

We need a N-Word Debate part 2 !

This show needs a sequel because it barely broke out some other issues.  ALL people practice a form of racial separatism.  For example, I am half African American, half Pakistani, & have an Arabic first name.  In mainstream White America that means i'm considered a threat (especially right now), even though I pay taxes as well as obey the law.  The only reason why the government investigates rappers (Hip Hop Police) is because the music has now reached White America.  Point is, the n-word is only a problem now because it is in White America, and ANY person of color will tell you that there are two Americas- White America, & Everybody Else's America.  When crack cocaine hit the "suburbs", all of a sudden we had a drug epidemic but that is only because it made it into White homes.  Rich people drink as much if not more than poor people yet in the Black neighborhoods there are liquor stores on every corner.  White people buy their alcohol from supermarkets or drug stores yet their are few if any liquor stores in their communities. I have been a victim of racism from BOTH sides of the equation.   I married a White woman.  White people don't seem to like it & neither do alot of Black people.  I was unable to marry a Black woman because I was told I wasn't "Black enough".  Because I don't communicate like somone who was just release from jail, or because I don't sound like a "thug (bad boy for White women)", somehow makes me less worthy of a mate? That's just baffling to me.  What it truly means is that lack of education still breeds ignorance, regardless of color.

Anyone who lives in a suburb is practicing demographic, financial, & racial separatism.  You people live in your "Master Planned Communities" with your gated entries to "keep out crime".  Yet you are too stupid to realize that the criminals (mostly White because America is 70% White) know that you have insurance on all your property so it's like a free for all when you go to work.

It shows how hypocritical we Americans really are.  Blondes get more attention & are more successful than Brunettes or Redheads.  Blacks & Hispanics who are darker are assumed to be criminals or in this country illegally.  Asians who work manual labor (maids for example) are looked down upon by Asians who have college degrees.  There are countless examples of this going on in everyday life that is taken for granted. A recent European report showed that 10% of established countries believe that Barack Obama would make the better President.  The other 90% of established countries truly believe that the USA should be blown off the map!!!  Why you ask? 
1) Because White America's government (that's how they call it because there have only been TWO people of color that have had any real power) has been trying to play "World Police", or as the Queen of Jordan put it "Military Bullies" for the last 225 years & now people are getting sick of it.
2) When immigrants come over here to make a better life for themselves LEGALLY, they are still treated as ILLEGAL.
3) The USA wants to fight the war on terror, yet there are domestic terrorists within its borders (KKK, Skinheads, Militias, Gangs, etc...).

The whole point is that we Americans need to stop focusing on color.  I am as dark as Will Smith but if I was born in Germany I would be GERMAN!!!  Instead I was born in America & i'm called the N-Word, Black, African American, Camel Jockey, or some other color related epithet.  Oh & by the way, African means Black, & THEFT means American, so African American doesn't make much sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:17 pm PDT

New Music

Quote From: mikayla1020

honestly the new music im not liking, its just not dr.phil ! bring back the old music !!! me & my mom watch the show everyday we love it . keep up the good work but were not sold on the new music . .
I agree. I am not loving the new music.  The old music, I could be in another room from the TV and hear the music and know it was Dr. Phil Show right away.
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:22 pm PDT

Talk About the Show

Quote From: twolife45

I am white, 63, female.  First, I thought this was a great beginning.  I hope you will have more.  I personally would never use the N word.  I feel it is a derogatory term coming from the history of white slave ownership trying to keep slaves in their places. 

I do not believe it should be used in recordings because it spreads hatred.

I'm not sure if Paul Mooney is a reverse racist.  He seems to have a lot of hatred in his heart.  To me, this keeps him from being effective in getting over his opinions, a lot of which I agree.

I have taught my kids & grand-kids not to use the N word or the swastika symbol and other racist terms because of what their meaning in history.

I grew up in the East End of Cincinnati.  I lived in a white neighborhood.  I went to an all white Catholic school.  The "colored" as they were termed in the 50's started 3 blocks away from my street.  Whites were not allowed to go there.  My two brothers were because they were friends with the Redburns, a black family.  I was about the only white girl who was allowed to ride my bike, run through the alley and visit black homes in their neighborhood.. 
I was not aware of racism until I brought one of my little colored girl friends home.  My mom was polite, gave us a snack.  When my black friend left, my mom told me she could not come back.  Basically, so that I would survive my white friends and not be called names.  That burned a hole in my brain & I never forgot.  I was about 8 or 9 years old.
My next encounter with racism was when I visited Nashville.  Several of my family were walking down the street.  A black guy was walking towards us and went out into the street.  It was not because of anything we did, I found out.  It was the way things were then. I was about 13 years old.
Unlike my sister & a lot of my friends, I never had any problems in my public high school with black people.  No fights, no threats, etc.
I have used the terms of the period.  I now use the term African Americans. 

What I am confused about is why that term is used.  I am Irish, but I do not use the term Irish American when asked.  I am American first, with an Irish heritage.  I am curious why a person from Germany or Isreal, when asked what they are say Jew.  To me this is a religious connotation, not a country or origin term.

I am also confused about why the Irish celebrate one day a year for their heritage (St Patrick's Day), but the African Americans have a month, I believe it is February.  Don't get me wrong, I'm just curious.

I hate racism.  I think it hurts the person who hates more than it does others.  This includes homophobia.

I did not intend to be so long, but the show really affected me.

Regards
Keep up the good work.  I like this kind of show more than your other types.
I understand what you are saying and appreciate the fact you are living your life better than some Americans. I appreciate the fact that you are teaching your children better and that you are trying to understand. What people don't understand is that most people don't really know or understand all of the horrors that blacks have experinced from slavery up to today. People handle situations differently; some overcome their past, some fall victim to their past, some use it as an excuse, and yet some use it to hurdle themselves to a better future. Blacks in America are disjointed due to conditioning and there are people who are conditioned to feel a certain way about them. There is a saying that comes to mind "Lest we forget". How can can people forget something that they never learned the complete truth about. How can you learn to understand something that is down played throughout history. We in America know more about the atrocities that went on Germany with the Jewish people than the very atrocities that have afflicted our fellow neighbor here in the United States. Black history month was set up to educate everyone about black history. When I went to school and now throughout the generations people are not really taught about black history. We learn about many other types of history but not really the history of those who were not considered worth anything for many years. Thank you for being an open-minded person and just considering what I'm saying.
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:34 pm PDT

Talk About the Show

Quote From: housedj

This show needs a sequel because it barely broke out some other issues.  ALL people practice a form of racial separatism.  For example, I am half African American, half Pakistani, & have an Arabic first name.  In mainstream White America that means i'm considered a threat (especially right now), even though I pay taxes as well as obey the law.  The only reason why the government investigates rappers (Hip Hop Police) is because the music has now reached White America.  Point is, the n-word is only a problem now because it is in White America, and ANY person of color will tell you that there are two Americas- White America, & Everybody Else's America.  When crack cocaine hit the "suburbs", all of a sudden we had a drug epidemic but that is only because it made it into White homes.  Rich people drink as much if not more than poor people yet in the Black neighborhoods there are liquor stores on every corner.  White people buy their alcohol from supermarkets or drug stores yet their are few if any liquor stores in their communities. I have been a victim of racism from BOTH sides of the equation.   I married a White woman.  White people don't seem to like it & neither do alot of Black people.  I was unable to marry a Black woman because I was told I wasn't "Black enough".  Because I don't communicate like somone who was just release from jail, or because I don't sound like a "thug (bad boy for White women)", somehow makes me less worthy of a mate? That's just baffling to me.  What it truly means is that lack of education still breeds ignorance, regardless of color.

Anyone who lives in a suburb is practicing demographic, financial, & racial separatism.  You people live in your "Master Planned Communities" with your gated entries to "keep out crime".  Yet you are too stupid to realize that the criminals (mostly White because America is 70% White) know that you have insurance on all your property so it's like a free for all when you go to work.

It shows how hypocritical we Americans really are.  Blondes get more attention & are more successful than Brunettes or Redheads.  Blacks & Hispanics who are darker are assumed to be criminals or in this country illegally.  Asians who work manual labor (maids for example) are looked down upon by Asians who have college degrees.  There are countless examples of this going on in everyday life that is taken for granted. A recent European report showed that 10% of established countries believe that Barack Obama would make the better President.  The other 90% of established countries truly believe that the USA should be blown off the map!!!  Why you ask? 
1) Because White America's government (that's how they call it because there have only been TWO people of color that have had any real power) has been trying to play "World Police", or as the Queen of Jordan put it "Military Bullies" for the last 225 years & now people are getting sick of it.
2) When immigrants come over here to make a better life for themselves LEGALLY, they are still treated as ILLEGAL.
3) The USA wants to fight the war on terror, yet there are domestic terrorists within its borders (KKK, Skinheads, Militias, Gangs, etc...).

The whole point is that we Americans need to stop focusing on color.  I am as dark as Will Smith but if I was born in Germany I would be GERMAN!!!  Instead I was born in America & i'm called the N-Word, Black, African American, Camel Jockey, or some other color related epithet.  Oh & by the way, African means Black, & THEFT means American, so African American doesn't make much sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You make a goood point. It is sad that we as a people are so divided. I believe that people should appreciate the differences in their fellow neighbor. Thank you for your comments. Issues bleed through all races of people and hopefully through time it will get better through education and sensitivity.
 
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