Topic : 12/22 Parents Falsely Accused

I agree with some of your points, for the children that need SS .  With that said,I am at the opposite end of that spectrum. It is so frustrating to me that every time my husbands ex gets mad at him she calls DSS on me and they have shown up. She does it out of complete malice.  I wish they would spend their efforts where needed and tell her to get a life!  She makes up all kinds of stupid lies but because her family works for our police dept they are more than happy to accommodate.  I called them to get help for one of my kids friends and they tell me they can't help but she calls and they show up at my house for the same thing I called about, and it doesn't even pertain to my family.  It is the worst feeling in the world to have them show up at your door, for false accusations and you have to defend yourself because someone is narcissistic.

If your in the wrong and are harming or putting your children in danger then ya I agree with calling DSS.  There needs to be some recourse for someone making false accusations/false report.  If there was, then the children that REALLY need the help would be getting it.  It takes 1 minute missed that can save a child's life that is in danger.

A quick reply to the woman who was on the interactive portion of the show. If you really believe in what you said than why drive with your child in the car at all? If you believe that "...toddlers work quickly in my opinion and he can do a lot of damage in a that amount of time..." then why risk taking him in the car at all? If you drive 5, 10, 30 minutes with your child in the car, in your opinion, he can easily cause a lot of damage even though you're in the car. After all it's not that all your attention is on him. At least I hope not. You are driving. What if he gets out of his harness and you have to break suddenly. Imagine that. In actuality it's probably a million times more safe to leave your child in the car while parked next to a mail box than to be driving. So the question is will you still drive with your child in the car?

Sorry I must have missed where it said that it was late at night... Was that somewhere in there?? How do you know it wasn't 5-6 in the evening?? I mean if they were donating to Salvation Army like that then it had to be appx Christmas time where it gets dark by 5-5:30....

Or She should have paid 30 dollars to have someone watch her??

Perhaps it wasn't sleeting when she left the house.... Should mothers who live in cold climates never leave the house??

 

I think the real issue here is common sense! Was the child in real danger?? None that I see, that would be forsee-able... What if the mother would have taken her out adn she would have slipped and the baby fell out of her arms and a car ran her over?? Then you all would have been jumping all over her for taking her out of the car... As a mother we can't win in these situation!!! I think we just have to go with our best judgement!

she had to say she wouldent because she was on tv im sure she dident want to look like a bad parent but if your child is on the opposite side of the car in the back and  and the mail box is in the front to get the child out of the car and carseat she would have to go the same distance eather way so how is it better to do that

 Years ago a new mom in london went to give her child a bath she sliped hit her head and fell unconcious the baby unfortunately landed in the water and drowned that does not make the mom a bad parent at all it was a complete accident  as freakish as it was accidents do happen. I see your point but that mom had several older children that could have easily informed law inforcement or others around that their sister was in the car if the mom fell unconcious from a head injury.  If she could see the baby and she was returning to the car I did not see a problem but I was concerned that she seemed to make a habit of doing this to get mail or pick up something from a neighbor ect.  I got the impression from the way she talked that it was common practice and it is better not to risk it. I personally have never ever left my kids in a car my mother used to do that to me as a kid. I would sit for long periods in the car and the windows would barley be opened and I was not allowed to open the door I can remember being so hot and sweaty I would fall asleep from exaustion the heat was horrible. There are to many risk factors that could lead to a tradgedy. I do think law inforcment overstep their boundarys a lecture on child safety  would have been more appropriate.

Can someone tell me what happened to the young man that was at the end of Thursdays show?

 

I missed it and caught the very end.  He was with his mother and Robin came up to hug them. 

 

Thanks  Tina

she says that she could "see" the car.  couple questions:

1.  did she walk backwards one way so she could  "see" the car the entire time?  (if the answer is no, then she could not "see" the vehicle the entire time.  physically impossible)

2.  she was walking to the donation bucket with her two other children.  would she think it's o.k. to let the two children walk themselves to the bucket? (probably not - not safe)

3.  thirty feet away from the bucket.  would it be possible for a weapon wielding baby snatcher to break a window and steal her baby before she could get back to the vehicle?  keep in mind, she has two other children with her. (no, probably not)

4.  what was the "rush" that day? looking at the videotape, why did she not pull directly in front of the bucket and oversee the two older children getting out and walking to the bucket themselves? there is a vehicle between her car and the bucket.  obstructed a clear view.  (you know how those soccer moms are always rushing.  take a minute and slow down)

5.  if something terrible would have happened, would she  "expect" that security person to assist her, along with any video that could be obtained from the store to help identify who might have her baby.  (too bad those two "tools" worked against her.  those tools are in place to protect EVERYONES children, not parents)

6.  she stated that when she puts the groceries in the car, she also puts the kids in the car, leaves them to put her cart back and then proceeds to the vehicle.  according to her standards, does she park directly next to the coral, so she is within a "reasonable" distance from the vehicle?  how many vehicles can be parked between her vehicle and the coral to deem a "reasonable" distance or "reasonable" obstacles. (i was given a child safety book from the hospital upon bringing my son home, 19 years ago, and one of the very first safety tips was: put the groceries in the car, transport your child in the cart with you to the coral, return to vehicle SAFELY with your child.  again,  physically impossible to "see" vehicle entire time. you have to turn your back one way, unless she walks backwards, which is HIGHLY unlikely)

7.  prior to this "situation", if she saw a toddler sitting in an unsupervised vehicle at the same store, no matter what the circumstances, would she be bothered by it? (i would hope so)

8.  is admitting you made a mistake make you a better mom?  (yes. your children are learning from you. mommies are wrong sometimes too)

9.  is admitting you made this ONE mistake mean you are a bad mom? (no. dont be so bullheaded. again, mommies are wrong sometimes too.  how do you handle mistakes by your children? hopefully, discuss and teach them to do better next time)

10.  did she cooperate FULLY with police officers upon their arrival?  not I.D.ing your child for law enforcement?  (again, very bullheaded.) were her children hearing this conversation with police? (yes. now you have taught them, if you think you are right, you dont have to cooperate with police)

11.  today: would you do it exactly the same way again?  (I SURELY HOPE NOT)

 

my thoughts too were is her justice.

I have lived with and around the system breaking down and justice was not served in several instances.  The DA, Police, Judge, Social Services is more often than not considered correct until they are proven wrong.  So the innocent until proven guilty is a huge break-down in the justice system in many smaller areas as well as larger ones that are over burdened.  The states that elect judges needs to be changed this allows a terrible "good ole boy" system to flourish.  I have much respect for Dr. Phil and his offering to this family and the wrongly accused Mother.  Possibly instead of still looking at what was, I reinterate... was wrong you possibly could show some compassion and have helped these children or possible looked out for their well being since you seem to have so much information or insight.  Take action do not let it go even today after 13 plus years.  Turn your heart around and try to give something positive in light of the entire situation.  After all this is for the Children also?  I hope Lynn still has stamina and courage to allow for all of the resources to be utilized that are offered her and her family.  She is a strong woman, as Dr Phil stated she has much to work on and heal.  At least there is someone out there looking out for this underdog sounds like you want to continue to try to beat her down some more with the past... it is over.  I am sure she has had lots of seconds, minutes, days, months, and years to come to her own terms.  Maybe respect what she had already lost and once again possibly try to help not continue to bring up the past.  Live in today and look to tomorrow.  Bless us all.