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(Original Air Date: 09/18/08) Could you be guilty of abusing your child and not know it? Where are the boundaries when it comes to parenting? Treffly is a mom of three who never thought she would be accused of breaking the law. But that's exactly what happened when she left her daughter in the car to do an errand just 30 feet away. Treffly's case sparked a flurry of opinions and heated debates across the country. People in the community and a criminal defense attorney weigh in. And find out what Dr. Phil thinks about Treffly's encounter with the law. Then, Lynn says her biggest regret is leaving her daughter alone the night the 13-year-old died. Find out how a false allegation landed her behind bars. Her conviction was overturned, and Lynn became the first woman in U.S. history to be cleared by DNA evidence. Hear how the truth came to light and what life has been like since she was released from prison. And, hear about Lynn's son, Ed's, experience growing up in foster care as a result of his mother's incarceration. What can mother and son do to rebuild their bond? Find out what you can do to improve the lives of children in the foster care system. Plus, don't miss the steps you need to take if you're wrongly accused of a crime. Join the discussion.

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September 19, 2008, 1:25 pm PDT

09/18 Parents Falsely Accused?

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That's interesting.  Do you watch your kids while they sleep at night too?  Leaving them alone as you purposefully walk out of their room at night is just as much child neglect as the case with the child in the car. 
Actually, yes. My children remain sleeping beside my bed until they are old enough to go the washroom in the night by themselves. During the day, my baby sleeps in the crib in my office.

Babies die alone in the night as well--SIDS.


 
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September 19, 2008, 1:39 pm PDT

im going through this now..

The show couldn't have came at a perfect time the same day this show aired later that night i had an interview w/ CPS. False accusations were said about me. I'm still in total shock , obviously the accusations are extremely false. There are people that seriously do have nothing better to do or just think they can disrupt a family at any time. Now i do know that there are times that cps does need to get involved. However in my circumstance, I'm outraged. I have always taken pride in myself of me being a good mother. When the social worker came i cooperated and to there finds there was nothing out of the ordinary. And the marks that where alleged were no where to be found. I'm extremely confident that my case will be dropped, however this incident has made me more aware of people to look out for.  I have always been a social person, but the way i see it if you have a problem w/ someone or believe something is going on you need to get all the facts. My child is still scared when she was approached by four social workers and was told to get naked during school to check for marks. We have taught our kids of about stranger danger, and when she came home she was crying and felt ashamed of what happen. keep in mind this is a five year old little girl. Right now they're still investigating my case. This experience has made me feel so overwhelmed and confused. However I'm confident and certain that my name will be cleared, i only home this experience has not affected my daughter in the long run...
 
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September 19, 2008, 1:44 pm PDT

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First the case worker accused me of biting my daughter when a child had bitten my daughter.  At the hospital, I was told by the police officer that child welfare had been called and would be investigating the matter as well.  However no case worker ever showed and the officer seemed to be handling it.  It was only later that I learned the child welfare worker said she had gone to my house, looked around, and spoke to me.

 

I have plane tickets and hotel receipts to show I was not home.  So she could not have gone in my home and spoken to me.  So her report is false!   Last I heard she is still a case worker!   She should have been fired if not arrested so making false reports.

 

My old neighbors had a newborn and during the dead of winter had no electricity, no running water, and conditions I wouldn't put a rabid animal in.  Despite several calls from myself and neighbors no one came out.  Yet my friend had her kids taken away over night because her ex made an accusation and they realized that night it was false but waited until morning to return them!  We'd hate for case workers to have to make a drive to return children to their home rather then get their beauty sleep.

 

Our child welfare returned a child to a mother who showed she could not be trusted with a child and the child was beaten to death not to long after.  A mother was given a child after leaving her child in a truck stop for hours.

 

If a child is hurt and as you said there is nothing for Child Welfare to investigate but law enforcement sees it fit to look for other forms of abuse, should Child Welfare not be involved rather then passing the buck of Maybes to law enforcement? 

 

Since you worked for child welfare for 15+ years, have you ever apologize for the to the parents/guardians who were accused of abuse that Child Welfare determined to be false after causing the heartache and headache of being investigated?

I can relate to both the parent treated unjustly by the system and the social worker in PA.

 I have been a social worker in the child welfare field in Iowa for many years.   I have seen devoted social workers work tirelessly to protect children both in their families and in the foster care system as well as work hard to reunite families with their children when the children could be well-cared for.

 

I have also seen social work management systems and social workers set up parents to fail, not try to help them but punish parents at every turn, children returned to homes where they faced terrible risks of reabuse or death, and place children in foster/adoptive homes that were known to be abusive.  I have seen children caught up in the residential systems for 2-6 years and only get worse and worse often being put on strong doses of adult psychotropic drugs.   The good workers often get pushed out of the system and the ones who care little or play the game remain.   Thursday's show was heartbreaking both for the mother who was unjustly imprisoned, and the son who went through so many crummy foster care homes.

I wish them well as they seek to put the pieces of their lives back together.

 
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September 19, 2008, 2:40 pm PDT

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  I was appalled by how many people are ready to lynch & throw the book at innocent parents who leave their child for only a minute or so (and they have their children w/in their sight).  These judgemental people like to put their noses in other people's business, they obviously have no life, and it feels good to them to preach to others what they think is moral.  That poor woman just went to drop change in a bucket (and it was very cold outside), she saw her baby the whole time while outside.  If I were her I'd sue that security rent-a-cop, and anyone else who had a hand in this.

  What about that stupid woman who claims she thinks people should take their child out of their cars when they park right by their mailboxes?  Insane, and I think she's a liar, and just wants to be part of the moral police -no matter how twisted.

I left my child sleeping in her car seat, and I parked in the very front of the store, ran in and bought baby tylenol/motrin as she had a high fever from the flu.  She was asleep, and hadn't been able to sleep all night long.  There are no thugs around w/ tools to break in my car, and I will not be bullied by the moral police.  I take my daughter everywhere I go, I only left her in the carseat that 1 time due to the circumstances. 

 
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September 19, 2008, 3:23 pm PDT

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We had a case here in the KC area where a mother left her son in the car just to get something to drink.  Not only did she leave him in the car, but she left the car running (it was cold outside).  The car was stolen and she tried to get her kid out of the car seat, he was dragged to his death.  This woman was not charged at all.  I know it probably sounds very cold hearted, and people will say she has suffered enough, but not as much as her son.  She should have been charged.  It is against the law to leave your child in the car alone. 

 

I wish I could remember who put it this way, but I really like it.  Let's see how much your child is worth to you.  Would you leave a $1000 bill in the car?  No.  How about a $100 dollar bill?  No.  How about a $50 dollar bill? No.  How about a $20 dollar bill?  No.  And so on and so on. You wouldn't leave a $20 dollar bill, but you would your child. So your child isn't worth $20.00.  I never left my child in the car, no matter how difficult it was to take him out and put in back, or no matter how close it was.

 

Some mistakes you only get to make once.

 

 

  Get over yourself.  How can you comapre that story to the one that was on this week's show?  In your story, the mother left her kid in a "running" car -that's totally different from what the other woman did (locked the car).  Whenever you leave your car running in a public area, it attracts people who just want to steal the car, they're not looking to steal a kid -most criminals want money not people.  The woman in your story made a bad judgement call , she should have locked her doors but only if she would be in the store for less than 5 minutes, otherwise, she needed to take the child in w/ her. 

People like you are no different than the people way back in history who chase down others (that they feel is guilty of something) w/ your burning tourches in one hand, and critical words spouting from your know-it-all mouth. 

The woman in your story doesn't need to be continually criticized by people like you.  Nothing is accomplished, you just show what a disgusting fellow human you are; she made bad mistake, one that I'm sure she would trade her soul to reverse.

 
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September 19, 2008, 4:00 pm PDT

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Quote From: chriskah

Actually, yes. My children remain sleeping beside my bed until they are old enough to go the washroom in the night by themselves. During the day, my baby sleeps in the crib in my office.

Babies die alone in the night as well--SIDS.


When do you sleep?  You can't watch them if you are sleeping?
 
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September 19, 2008, 4:40 pm PDT

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Quote From: buckeyemom27

When do you sleep?  You can't watch them if you are sleeping?
The problem with all this is that no one can define the "gray" area. The above is an "extremist" statement that you know is just silly. However, I actually have a hard time sleeping--I wake every couple of hours although my children have always slept through the night (perhaps I worry too much). I can hear them if they cough, gag, choke, etc--that is the point of having them nearby.

The point of this whole topic isn't about 100% supervision--that is a bit far-fetched (even for an attachment parent). The point is that an unsupervised, unattended child inside a car (locked or not) is asking for trouble. Children can (and will) wiggle and strangle themselves in the seat-belts (or even get out, fiddle with the keys, locks, or whatever else you have in the car). The air is often uncirculated, too cold or too hot.
 
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September 19, 2008, 5:11 pm PDT

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This show was terribly emotional for me -- and I watched it twice - sobbing both times.  I recently retired after 38 years as an urban educator - both teacher and administrator.  I know children get lost in the system and need our protection.  My heart broke for the young man and his mom.  I applaud the father/husband for "hanging in there" keeping his family together during this awful situation. 

We recently had a false imprisonment here in my state with the fellow just being released. 

As a society we must do better.  I have contacted my state's CASA address asking for information. 

 
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September 19, 2008, 5:57 pm PDT

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I'm sorry but I find a few things wrong with your comment!! I am a mother of a 3 year old little boy and I LOVE my son with ALL my heart! He is my life. He is with me every minute of every day and I do mean literally! There is a gas station by my house where the pumps are about 10 feet from the cash register and I leave my son in the car to go pay for my gas. How is that being a bad parent and not loving my child?! He is within eyesight, and easily within reach! I DO NOT think I am a bad mother for taking 30 seconds to run (and I do run) into the door and pay for my gas especially when it's cold or raining. Wouldn't I be a bad mother for taking my son out of his car seat, into the rain, pay for my gas, take him back into the rain and put him back in his car seat cold and wet?!
     I wouldnt recommend leaving a child alone in a car for any length of time.  Some people may agree. Some people may disagree. What your saying about leaving a child in a car for getting gas is slightly different. Your 10feet a few minutes. I think they may have been mentioning about longer time frames with child alone in car. The lady on show was 30 feet and she got arrested. I dont even have kids of my own and I stil dont recommend it. I know it may be a little of a hassle taking child out of car and putting him/her back in. Its just extra precaution to keeping your child safe...........
 
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September 19, 2008, 6:01 pm PDT

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Quote From: gypsyjt

and if you got back to your car and it wasn't  there?  How could you stop a moving car?
    That might be a diffterent show..
 
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