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(Original Air Date: 09/18/08) Could you be guilty of abusing your child and not know it? Where are the boundaries when it comes to parenting? Treffly is a mom of three who never thought she would be accused of breaking the law. But that's exactly what happened when she left her daughter in the car to do an errand just 30 feet away. Treffly's case sparked a flurry of opinions and heated debates across the country. People in the community and a criminal defense attorney weigh in. And find out what Dr. Phil thinks about Treffly's encounter with the law. Then, Lynn says her biggest regret is leaving her daughter alone the night the 13-year-old died. Find out how a false allegation landed her behind bars. Her conviction was overturned, and Lynn became the first woman in U.S. history to be cleared by DNA evidence. Hear how the truth came to light and what life has been like since she was released from prison. And, hear about Lynn's son, Ed's, experience growing up in foster care as a result of his mother's incarceration. What can mother and son do to rebuild their bond? Find out what you can do to improve the lives of children in the foster care system. Plus, don't miss the steps you need to take if you're wrongly accused of a crime. Join the discussion.

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September 18, 2008, 7:56 pm PDT

09/18 Parents Falsely Accused?

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and if you got back to your car and it wasn't  there?  How could you stop a moving car?
I don't leave my car running or my keys in the car. I am very aware of my surroundings, I can literally talk to my son from where I'm at. I would never leave my son where I could not get to him or see him, that would be neglectful but I don't think stepping 10 feet away is putting him in danger. Have you ever left your child in your car and run back in the house for something?! That to me is more dangerous than what I do.
 
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September 18, 2008, 7:58 pm PDT

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22, 20 and 16 huh?  Sounds pretty easy.  You had one in school all day by the time your youngest was running around.  Little ones always have their own agendas.  How sad for you to judge others when you have never been in their situation!

I MOST DEFINETELY HAVE BEEN IN THEIR SITUATION.

Even when I had one in school all day, I had my other 2 kids with me.

And if I needed to go to a store with them, both my kids were taken out of the car and with me.

When my middle child started Kindergarten, the parking lot was right at the school door - and I always took my youngest out of the car seat - even in snow and sleet - and had them with me.

My children mean the world to me and there is no way I would have put any of them in danger by leaving them in the car.

And for you to judge me, when you were not in my shoes, is sad!!

 
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September 18, 2008, 8:01 pm PDT

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Everyone has challenges that they did not plan for.  How would you feel if you returned to your car and found one of your children had been abducted?  Would we all be overreacting in that case or would you want every government agency doing everything they could to recover your child?  It simply isn't worth the risk.
You're right we do have challenges in our lives but having a child isn't one of them or at least it doesn't have to be an unexpected one. I have never left any of my 5 children in the car and I never would. It's wrong and it's not safe and in my state it's against the law!
 
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September 18, 2008, 8:14 pm PDT

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I've notice its the people who accuse and dictate to everyone else how to parent their kids who have the most annoying, rude, back talking brats.  Child welfare worries about some of the dumbest things.  Child welfare should be a form of government that I believe should be banned.

 

My daughter was bitten at the daycare.  Child welfare NEVER investigated it.  The police department was the only people who gave a crap and investigated it.  They investigated the bite nothing but the bite.  Didn't do a home inspection, didn't invade our privacy (not that they would have found anything if they had).  But the police did a better job and cared more then Child Welfare could ever have a concept of doing.  Or should I say, Child-We-Really-Don't-Care-About-Their-Welfare. 

 

So I say let's get rid of case workers who think they're better then everyone and above the law and place chldren in abusive foster homes.  Let's get rid of child welfare and use our police who are real trained professionals.  Also to the parents, grandparents, and everyone who have to worry about how others raise their kids.  While your watching my kids your kids are committing the crimes you complain about and leaving you grandkids to raise. 

If child welfare ignored the calls everyone would say they don't care and when they come knock on your door you say they have no right.

 

In this case where the child was bitten at the day care; was child welfare or the animal control contacted? So don't be so quick to give an opinon. If the police didn't follow protocool and make the necessary calls. What did you do?

 

 

 
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September 18, 2008, 8:15 pm PDT

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You're right we do have challenges in our lives but having a child isn't one of them or at least it doesn't have to be an unexpected one. I have never left any of my 5 children in the car and I never would. It's wrong and it's not safe and in my state it's against the law!
I'm the first to admit, my son is a challenge. He was unexpected (I was told with the ovarian cysts I had I could not have children without surgery and I was on birth control) and he challenges me everyday. I love every minute of it. I was 20 years old when my son was born, I have never left him with a "babysitter" only family, I quit my job to be home with him, I take online classes to further my education to build a better life for him without being away from him. I work my butt off everyday to make sure my son is my number one priority and I think that all the people on here saying that I am a bad parent for leaving my son in the car for 30-45 seconds when I can see him, talk to him, and get to him if need be need to get over themselves. I am a damn good parent and this does not change it.
 
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September 18, 2008, 8:20 pm PDT

My heart goes out to you.

My heart goes out to the lady who went to jail for a crime she did not commit. I was crying the whole time when i head your story. What happen to her son made me want to join casa and Dr.Phil. I hope for the best for you and your family.
 
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September 18, 2008, 8:22 pm PDT

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I'm totally surprised at the number of people on here that say it's ok to leave their kids in the car. It's not ok and it's against the law! I've raised 5 kids and no I have never once left any of them in a car without another adult in the car with them, not even for a minute. IT"S NOT SAFE!!! You can make all the excuses you want but that doesn't make it right. If you don't want to take care of your children then don't have them in the first place!!

I agree with you 100%!!!!!

 
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September 18, 2008, 8:23 pm PDT

Not What I Saw

I must say I was a bit surprised at the over simplification of the circumstances surrounding the mother leaving her two year-old in the vehicle unattended at the beginning of the show.  From the video, reportedly taken by the husband, it appears the distance from the vehicle to the area where the Salvation Army's kettle was was much more than 30 feet.  Also in that studio there wasn't a support beam blocking the sight line, there was no traffic passing through the sight line, it wasn't dark, and it wasn't raining.  Watching the gimmick with the measuring tape, I feel Dr. Phil was pandering to this woman's assertion that she did nothing wrong, and thus she felt her child was never at risk.   

 

That said, I agree the police did use poor judgment in executing a full-blown custodial arrest.  As suggested by another poster, the police should have prepared a report and either applied for a criminal summons and served it on the woman at a later date, or the investigation and their completed report should have been forwarded to the local district/state's attorney for review and recommendation as to whether the woman should have been criminally charged or not.      

 
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September 18, 2008, 8:25 pm PDT

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Todays show was about false accusations. But what if the accusations could be true, I just don't know.

 

I have been communicating online with a young girl. I have never actually met her  before but  she lives in the same state as me and we became sort of online friends. She recently confided in me  that her father, who she lives alone with, is sexually abusing her. Had been for some time. He makes her do everything.

She knows she ought to tell someone who can help her. But she's not going to. She's too scared. She's terrified of ending up like Edward. She feels that being in a foster home for the rest of her child hood would be worse than living with her drunk, sexually abusive father.

All I know about her is her first name, the city she lives in, and what school she goes to. I my mind that should be enough to track her down, but I was told that even if I did call that wouldn't be enough information to make a report.

I thought about calling the citys police department directly and seeing if they could help but after watching this show I am even more reluctant to try to find her. I don't know her, I don't know her family or her life, I don't even really have any evidence except the conffesion. Even in I could find a way to report it, what if she  has to go through what Edward did. Whose to say that wouldn't be just as bad?

I just don't know.

You don't know if the story is true, or even if these messages are from a young girl.  There is NOTHING worse than living with sexual abuse.  Although there are some bad foster homes, there are a lot more that are caring and safe.  Most of the time, the children that have to be removed from parents are placed with family or friends if there are any that are appropriate.  It is your obligation to report the abuse, whether or not you know if it is true.  Let someone who knows what they are doing evaluate the situation.  The police can track her from her email address.  Report it today, so that if there is abuse occuring you have done your best to stop it as soon as possible.
 
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September 18, 2008, 8:32 pm PDT

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I must say I was a bit surprised at the over simplification of the circumstances surrounding the mother leaving her two year-old in the vehicle unattended at the beginning of the show.  From the video, reportedly taken by the husband, it appears the distance from the vehicle to the area where the Salvation Army's kettle was was much more than 30 feet.  Also in that studio there wasn't a support beam blocking the sight line, there was no traffic passing through the sight line, it wasn't dark, and it wasn't raining.  Watching the gimmick with the measuring tape, I feel Dr. Phil was pandering to this woman's assertion that she did nothing wrong, and thus she felt her child was never at risk.   

 

That said, I agree the police did use poor judgment in executing a full-blown custodial arrest.  As suggested by another poster, the police should have prepared a report and either applied for a criminal summons and served it on the woman at a later date, or the investigation and their completed report should have been forwarded to the local district/state's attorney for review and recommendation as to whether the woman should have been criminally charged or not.      

I was also surprised that the mother was actually arrested.  There was a brief comment stating that she refused to identify the child in the car, and perhaps that is why it was taken to this level.  I also thought it was odd that the father's first response was to photograph the scene rather than to take his children home.  I agree that Dr. Phil minimized the danger in which this child was placed and wrote him an email stating that I thought he blew it this time.
 
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