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Created on : Friday, September 12, 2008, 01:20:40 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/18/08) Could you be guilty of abusing your child and not know it? Where are the boundaries when it comes to parenting? Treffly is a mom of three who never thought she would be accused of breaking the law. But that's exactly what happened when she left her daughter in the car to do an errand just 30 feet away. Treffly's case sparked a flurry of opinions and heated debates across the country. People in the community and a criminal defense attorney weigh in. And find out what Dr. Phil thinks about Treffly's encounter with the law. Then, Lynn says her biggest regret is leaving her daughter alone the night the 13-year-old died. Find out how a false allegation landed her behind bars. Her conviction was overturned, and Lynn became the first woman in U.S. history to be cleared by DNA evidence. Hear how the truth came to light and what life has been like since she was released from prison. And, hear about Lynn's son, Ed's, experience growing up in foster care as a result of his mother's incarceration. What can mother and son do to rebuild their bond? Find out what you can do to improve the lives of children in the foster care system. Plus, don't miss the steps you need to take if you're wrongly accused of a crime. Join the discussion.

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September 27, 2008, 12:54 pm PDT

Child left in car

I didn't see this show but know about the incident since it happened near my home. There is a lot behind the story. The community service officer that confronted the mother and the arresting officers lack moral judgment, in the opinion of many.

The community service officer had watched the mother park her car and get out. She knew exactly where she was and that she had been away from the car for just a few minutes.

The married community service officer was having an affair with one of the arresting officers while his wife was in bed dying of cancer. She moved into his home with his children a couple of weeks after his wife died.

The other arresting officer was collecting disability from his job with the Chicago police department and was supposed to be on desk duty on this job.

There is a civil case pending on this incident. I hope all three of the officers get canned.
 

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September 27, 2008, 3:05 pm PDT

car can roll w/children in car

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How does one cope with watching their child be dragged to death? I would need to be locked up.

Criminals stealing cars aren't my biggest fear--my children suffocating or freezing b/c of a quick change in temperature is. Leaving the car running for either heat or air conditioning risks the chances of innovative children wiggling out and playing with the running car, or fumes piling up--and for those of you who haven't thought of this--your brakes. For heavens sake, anyone who does leave their child in the car use your handbrake! You car can (and will!) roll away without the extra brake if something is wrong. I have a friend with a car in the lake b/c they owned a brand-new vehicle and believed the brakes should be good enough to hold the car on an incline b/c they were new.

I have also had the unnecessary privalege of driving a car with the brakes snapped (7mths pregnant with a toddler in the backseat and the first snow of the winter!). Brakes are touchy and can "die" at any time. Please don't forget to maintain them and to use your handbrakes regularly.

   I agree w/your post.  How many times have we heard about a curious 2 or 3 yr. old get behind the wheel of a car and suddenly they've put it into reverse or the emergency brake is released by the child unsupervised in the driveway while the parent is standing a few feet away from the car.  how many times have we heard of car jackings where the criminal takes off w/the infant.  if it takes an extra few seconds  to get your child out of the car to accompany you to the mail box, Salvation Army donation bucket, one hour photo, or wherever, do it.  there are people around just waiting to rat you out and call CPS.  it is plain stupid to leave your child in a car, just for a few seconds, that's all it takes for a tragedy to happen.

 

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September 27, 2008, 3:10 pm PDT

agree with you 100%

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I don't believe in leaving a young child alone in a car, ever. Even if you can see it.

    it's amazing how many people think it's okay to leave children in a car unattended even if they "can see them."  what can they do when "they see them" being abducted by a car jacker.  they think this can never happen to them.  it is downright stupid to leave your babies in a car unattended. 

 
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September 28, 2008, 11:24 am PDT

accused

I am an adoptive parent and a former foster parent. former because of an allegation that my daughter Sarah made while at a mental hospital. sarah suffers from reactive attachment disorder, adhd, ptsd, fasd and was drug affected at birth. Let start off by saying that i totally love my child and would do what ever possble to make life good for my child. however with the Reactive attachment issue in my daughters make up it is hard to make people understand the life of this family.  I was a foster mom for five years and i loved it. the agency sang my praises and i also did trainings for them. It was not until sarah was admitted to a mental hospital did my life change. Sarah made false alllegations about me in the hospital which resulted in a criminal investigation and the removal of my foster children. I was treated as a common criminal and was treated horribily. I do understand the law and i do understand that when an allegation is made it needs to be check out. I do not understand how someone can listen to a child who has the problems that my daughter has believe that it is true. Reactive Attachment disorder is very hard to deal with in its own realm but when people turn their backs on you because of a lie i find that also hard to deal with. since the adoption of my daughter some of the friends i used to have no longer want to be involved with my family since these children have no empathy or conscience. My children or foster were never abused or mistreated in anyway but i will carry this with me for the rest of my life. I was made to feel I was a terrible person and could not care properly for foster children. My foster children were removed! My children were left here. I resigned as a foster parent when i was being accused of more things after i was told the allegation was unsubstantiated. Agencies can make allegations about whoever they want and say whatever they want but the sad thing is that they do not treat fosterparents fairly in these instances. Fosterparents have no rights and no way to protect themselves. I would have remained a fosterparent  but after all of the mental B.S. we had to deal with I decided that i would never want to deal with this ever again.
 
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October 2, 2008, 11:15 am PDT

"What if"?

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While I respect your right to your opinion, I feel that I really must address your "what-if" comments. You are right..."What if someone had broken into the car....What if someone had rear-ended her, " but, what if her child had a resulting ear-ache from being taken into the sleet and cold? What if someone had rear-ended her while stopped at a red light on the way home and because she was in the car, too, was unable to attend to her hurt child? What if someone hit her child while riding bicycles in the neighborhood?

You could play the "what if" game all day and the result would simply be that you would never ever allow your child to be independent or out-of-reach long enough to experience anything. This was a simple case of a parent making a judgment call. I likely would have done the same, as my baby is prone to ear-aches in our -50 degree weather, and I see that as being a much more likely "what-if" than someone smashing a window in front of a busy Walmart. Everyone is entitled to make a judgment call, especially when the intention behind it is completely honorable, and this mother has done nothing that any other mother hasn't done over and over. You cannot live your life thinking that there could be tragedy in every move. You have to trust your own judgment and weigh the consequences and likelihoods of the "what-ifs" in your judgment calls.

Your child is "prone to ear-aches"?..Then do it some other time.

Well everyone seems to have neglected the obvious, which is that she didn't have to donate the money at that time, or in that way.

There are many errands that can be done at a better time.......or she could probably have pulled right up next to the donation bucket, rolled down the window and called the collector to her vehicle and handed him money.....or waited until the other vehicle was out of the way, then pulled up. There is always a better way, if someone just takes a moment to think about their actions.

Most problems can be avoided.

 
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October 24, 2008, 7:36 pm PDT

OUR CHILDREN ARE PRECIOUS!!!

Before I launch into my tirade I would like to make it perfectly clear that I am not in favor of children being abused.

However, the definition of "ABUSE" keeps getting broader and broader as time goes on. Abuse was once obvious with bruises and broken bones. Now abuse is being called sending a kid to bed without their supper. Thus refusing to feed the poor innocent child.

But how do we fight this? No law maker in his or her right mind would ever want to rein in child abuse definitions for fear of being labeled a child hater who likes to hear babies cry!
 
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October 27, 2008, 3:55 pm PDT

09/18 Parents Falsely Accused?

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Before I launch into my tirade I would like to make it perfectly clear that I am not in favor of children being abused.

However, the definition of "ABUSE" keeps getting broader and broader as time goes on. Abuse was once obvious with bruises and broken bones. Now abuse is being called sending a kid to bed without their supper. Thus refusing to feed the poor innocent child.

But how do we fight this? No law maker in his or her right mind would ever want to rein in child abuse definitions for fear of being labeled a child hater who likes to hear babies cry!

No offense, but you've lost all credibility with this other post that you had in another topic which referred to you talking about children.

 

http://www.drphil.com/messageboard/topic/3655/12/

 
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December 19, 2008, 3:57 pm PST

Doctor Phil Show.

Accused Doctor Falsely Parents Phil/Robin. I know that you are a parents of two beautifully childrens. And-

I am greatful for you and Robin. Keep up the good works. See you on Monday December 22nd, 2008.------

Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 
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December 19, 2008, 8:47 pm PST

unequal justice

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After working in the court system and for private attorneys, it is unbelievable what people will do.  Any one can file a complaint, criminal or civil, against anyone and say whatever they want.  It does not matter to some people what being "under oath" means or they just do not care.  It can be devastating. 
Someone accused my grandson of committing a murder that he did not commit. The police know who committed the crime and reffused to investigate. The person outright lied and the judge indicated there were discrecpencies but sentenced my grandson to life
 
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December 20, 2008, 2:44 pm PST

Is it false?

I understand that there are applications of child abuse regulations that are too closely defined, however, I dont'really think that you can be accused of abuse for not feeding your child dinner.  Starving a child is a bit different.

 

I have recently gotten custody of my step-children. For every time they accused their mother of abuse the report came back unfounded. She became very careful. She also manipulated the children to believe that she was innocent and their perception of the abuse was flawed. She convinced them that she was the victim - of them and every one else. It  has been 1 1/2 years of therapy and living with me and their father and they are still confused about what is right, what is abuse and what their conscience tells them.

 

We simply can't be too careful, although we must also be diligent. It is a flawed system. But is there a better one? These are our children. The world's most precious asset. They must be cared for.

 
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