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Created on : Friday, September 12, 2008, 01:20:40 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/18/08) Could you be guilty of abusing your child and not know it? Where are the boundaries when it comes to parenting? Treffly is a mom of three who never thought she would be accused of breaking the law. But that's exactly what happened when she left her daughter in the car to do an errand just 30 feet away. Treffly's case sparked a flurry of opinions and heated debates across the country. People in the community and a criminal defense attorney weigh in. And find out what Dr. Phil thinks about Treffly's encounter with the law. Then, Lynn says her biggest regret is leaving her daughter alone the night the 13-year-old died. Find out how a false allegation landed her behind bars. Her conviction was overturned, and Lynn became the first woman in U.S. history to be cleared by DNA evidence. Hear how the truth came to light and what life has been like since she was released from prison. And, hear about Lynn's son, Ed's, experience growing up in foster care as a result of his mother's incarceration. What can mother and son do to rebuild their bond? Find out what you can do to improve the lives of children in the foster care system. Plus, don't miss the steps you need to take if you're wrongly accused of a crime. Join the discussion.

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December 22, 2008, 9:40 am PST

It is Too Much and Too Little

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First the case worker accused me of biting my daughter when a child had bitten my daughter.  At the hospital, I was told by the police officer that child welfare had been called and would be investigating the matter as well.  However no case worker ever showed and the officer seemed to be handling it.  It was only later that I learned the child welfare worker said she had gone to my house, looked around, and spoke to me.

 

I have plane tickets and hotel receipts to show I was not home.  So she could not have gone in my home and spoken to me.  So her report is false!   Last I heard she is still a case worker!   She should have been fired if not arrested so making false reports.

 

My old neighbors had a newborn and during the dead of winter had no electricity, no running water, and conditions I wouldn't put a rabid animal in.  Despite several calls from myself and neighbors no one came out.  Yet my friend had her kids taken away over night because her ex made an accusation and they realized that night it was false but waited until morning to return them!  We'd hate for case workers to have to make a drive to return children to their home rather then get their beauty sleep.

 

Our child welfare returned a child to a mother who showed she could not be trusted with a child and the child was beaten to death not to long after.  A mother was given a child after leaving her child in a truck stop for hours.

 

If a child is hurt and as you said there is nothing for Child Welfare to investigate but law enforcement sees it fit to look for other forms of abuse, should Child Welfare not be involved rather then passing the buck of Maybes to law enforcement? 

 

Since you worked for child welfare for 15+ years, have you ever apologize for the to the parents/guardians who were accused of abuse that Child Welfare determined to be false after causing the heartache and headache of being investigated?

I live in New York City.  Everyday you read the paer, there is a story about a child, found dead, or severely injured, where the family had been investigated by Children's Services, MULTIPLE TIMES, and deemed the cases "unfounded". 

Then you read where parents are TERRIFIED to bring their children to the hospital, due to a legitimate accident, as the hospitals, in looking to cover their as*, are likely to report the parent as an abuser.

Common sense has gone out the window...children DO get bitten, and the MOTHER is NOT the one at fault, in the majority of cases.  It usually IS done by another child...some children do bite.

Caseworkers are in no position to make these determinations, as is proof by the number of mistakes made every day.

I agree...get RID OF THEM, and call the Police.  THEY seem to have the expertise, along with the common sense to act within the scope of reason.

I'm finished raising children.  I had three, my youngest will be 19 in Jan.

Were I to be in a position of starting off today, I'd think 1,000,000 before I'd put children, or myself in the New World of "parenting".

 
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December 22, 2008, 10:03 am PST

12/22 Parents Falsely Accused

Cars are carjacked in a matter of seconds. I always err on the side of caution where my children are concerned. All it takes is a moment of distraction and you are on T.V. begging some maniac to bring your baby back. I see lackadaisical parenting all the time. In a crowed mall parents have their children tagging along behind them. I makes me angry. Our rule is stay where I can see you, within reach, and if it is crowded you hold my hand. I think every situation is different. I did not read anywhere whether or not she locked the car door, or if the car was left running. If that was the case then she made herself and her child an easy target for tragedy. There is no way she could have stopped anyone from stealing her car from that distance. If it is inconvenient to do something when you have your children with you find another time to do it, or do the job you signed on for no matter how difficult, and drag their little behinds with you. I think the police would have served her better if they had told her how much time it takes for someone to take off with her car and child and warned her.  All that being said I do not believe she is a bad mother, and bad things happen no matter what you do.
 
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December 22, 2008, 12:21 pm PST

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     I'm old enough to remember being sent to the car to wait if I misbehaved. Times have changed. I think what bugs me about this story is that the woman felt that she was entitled to just pull over, BLOCKING AN ACCESS LANE, to do what she wanted to do. People using handicapped spaces or blocking emergency lanes " for just a minute' should be prosecuted.

 

 
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December 22, 2008, 12:23 pm PST

Every parent does this!

I am sorry, but leaving your car to walk 30 feet is no different from any parent who sits on a bench in a playground and watches their child play 30 feet away from them. I do not believe parents should leave their children to run into ANY building, but if it is something like running a few feet to a mailbox and returning directly to the car, I really do not see how that is any more potentially harmful than letting your child play a few feet away from you in a playground. Like the police officer said, things like this should always be looked into, but they clearly went too far. Not every investigation should lead to an arrest. These people were just out for the kill because they clearly had no real crimes to investigate.
 

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December 22, 2008, 12:32 pm PST

Just wondering

I'm wondering what all these parents do that are so adamant about not leaving a child in the car for a short bit of time even while in view.  Do they never take their children to the park and let their children play while they sit on a park bench and chat with a friend.  What about when you leave them in a room unattended while you run to the bathroom.  These situations could be just as dangerous.  I think that you do need to define the terms unattended/ attended.   If my child is in view or ear shot, I don't consider that unattended.  No I wouldn't leave a child in the car and go in to a store and go shopping, but what about when I need to pump gas.  Based on the way several people have responded they see this as being negligent if I leave my child in the car while I'm pumping gas.  I'm not even talking about running in to pay, I pay at the pump.  Does this make me negligent.  Where does it stop? 

 
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December 22, 2008, 12:36 pm PST

What is "unatended"

In reguards to the case of Treffly I personaly belive she is of no fault. While it is atrocious to leave a child unatended, the issue at hand is what is "unatended" .  Thirty feet  is no nore distance than what a responsible parent would let their child roam in a playground or park. It is ridiculus to acause a parent of abuse when the child is not put in the way of harm. 
 

 
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December 22, 2008, 1:06 pm PST

today show on 12/21

I was watching today's show and they had a women on who was arrested for leaving her kid in her car and she was 30 feet away.  Well there was just a case in New York were a mother who left her kid in the car and someone jumped in it and stole it. They got the kid back and the kid was safe. The problem I have is the mother who's car was taken they let her go without arresting her because her husband was a NYPD cop. I would like to new why she was not arrested and this women on your show was? Just because hehusband is a cop the law should apply to her 2.

 

Thanks Jenn

 
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December 22, 2008, 1:23 pm PST

Mother was wrong to leave her kid in the car!

Sorry...I cannot buy this poor pitiful me crap!

 

First of all..she was in a NO parking zone...again a NO parking zone!! ok?  It was designated a fire lane..there again she should not have been PARKED there.

 

If she had used her brain, she should have driven up to where the Salvation Army kettle was, rolled down the window and motioned to the attendant come over (possibly explaining the situation that she could not leave her car) and given the donation to them, watched them place it inside and drove away once that had been done.

 

In the words of Forest Gump...stupid is as stupid does!

 

 

 
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December 22, 2008, 1:27 pm PST

Common Sense!

I get so upset about the topic of leaving children in cars!  I believe that parents who leave their children in freezing cars for hours while they are in a bar drinking should go to jail.  A mother who runs to the mailbox, on the other hand, has done NOTHING wrong.  Our children are at risk 24/7.  Anything can happen to them at any time but I don't duct tape them to my chest and never leave their side!  I don't sit by their bedside and watch them while they nap, yet someone could break into my house and kidnap them!  Let's prosecute the person who kidnaps them (if that were to happen) not the mother!
 
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December 22, 2008, 1:28 pm PST

FALSELY ACCUSED

SHE MADE A GREAT POINT, SHE PUTS HER KIDS IN THE CAR TO PUT THE CART AWAY AND THAT IS MORE THEN 30 FEET.
 
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