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(Original Air Date: 09/18/08) Could you be guilty of abusing your child and not know it? Where are the boundaries when it comes to parenting? Treffly is a mom of three who never thought she would be accused of breaking the law. But that's exactly what happened when she left her daughter in the car to do an errand just 30 feet away. Treffly's case sparked a flurry of opinions and heated debates across the country. People in the community and a criminal defense attorney weigh in. And find out what Dr. Phil thinks about Treffly's encounter with the law. Then, Lynn says her biggest regret is leaving her daughter alone the night the 13-year-old died. Find out how a false allegation landed her behind bars. Her conviction was overturned, and Lynn became the first woman in U.S. history to be cleared by DNA evidence. Hear how the truth came to light and what life has been like since she was released from prison. And, hear about Lynn's son, Ed's, experience growing up in foster care as a result of his mother's incarceration. What can mother and son do to rebuild their bond? Find out what you can do to improve the lives of children in the foster care system. Plus, don't miss the steps you need to take if you're wrongly accused of a crime. Join the discussion.

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December 22, 2008, 2:32 pm PST

12/22 Parents Falsely Accused

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We had a case here in the KC area where a mother left her son in the car just to get something to drink.  Not only did she leave him in the car, but she left the car running (it was cold outside).  The car was stolen and she tried to get her kid out of the car seat, he was dragged to his death.  This woman was not charged at all.  I know it probably sounds very cold hearted, and people will say she has suffered enough, but not as much as her son.  She should have been charged.  It is against the law to leave your child in the car alone. 

 

I wish I could remember who put it this way, but I really like it.  Let's see how much your child is worth to you.  Would you leave a $1000 bill in the car?  No.  How about a $100 dollar bill?  No.  How about a $50 dollar bill? No.  How about a $20 dollar bill?  No.  And so on and so on. You wouldn't leave a $20 dollar bill, but you would your child. So your child isn't worth $20.00.  I never left my child in the car, no matter how difficult it was to take him out and put in back, or no matter how close it was.

 

Some mistakes you only get to make once.

 

i work at a wal-mart and see all kinds of things. i dont believe kids should ever be left in a car, but also think i have seen worse than what this women on your show did. she didn't leave a child in a car for the wrong reason,she left her for a split second. if some of the do gooders in the world would wake up they would see a whole lot more, i have three kids of my own and i support her.
 
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December 22, 2008, 2:33 pm PST

this is gone to far!!!!!

So I guess every parent that gets out of thier car to pump gas or wipe the snow off thier car should make the kids get out of the car and stand or be held in the cold. I leave my three kids in the car to pump gas, pay for gas, or even put the cart away, and I would never say I'm a bad Mom. Matter of a fact I feel I'm being a good Mom by not taking my children in and out of the cold. Plus I feel it's safe to leave them in the car then make three small kids walk across the parking lot just to put a cart away. There are so many kids out there that are getting hit and starving to death, lets take those parents away from those kids not the parents that don't want to wake a child just to walk 20 feet and back in the matter of a few mins. Please don't get me wrong if it is going to be more then a few then take them with. If your going in to the store then take them with. I love my kids and would never do anything to harm them.

 
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December 22, 2008, 2:41 pm PST

Parents responsibility to children.....

The woman who left her child unattended..... was wrong..... I feel like she tried to camouflage the issue with I was just ---- etc.  Children have been known to disappear right next to their parents.....children disappear right in their own parents home....  WHAT makes this woman any more special with her lame excuse.  WAKE the kid up.  I am confident this same parent would be the first to be appealing on national TV..... bring my kid home safely...... ASK any parent who has been through that drama in life. 

 

SHE used many poor excuses to validate the "what if", "I was only" "I could see" the car was only 30 feet away..."..... AT some point her back was to the car.... BLINK..... child gone.  There are some real sick people out there that are waiting for the parent described above to turn their back.... ASK
any child abductor .... they look for stupid people like her.  YOU have no idea who is watching who.  NOW What's her excuse.? .... for a few seconds, it is worth waking the child up.... doing what you need to do.....  CHILDREN only want to feel safe --- and know that as the parent....  YOU WILL ALWAYS PROTECT THEM..... 

 

SHE actually put her entire family through alto of unnecessary drama..... especially the one that was left in the car.....

 

I can only hope she learned her lesson......

 
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December 22, 2008, 2:51 pm PST

Subject Confusion

Dear Dr. Phil,

Your show today conflates two separate issues. This first is whether police should turn away from crimes such as leaving a child alone in a car. It is important for the public to understand that police have discretion about some crimes.

The second is the use of DNA to solve cold cases. Was the woman who was convicted of killing her daughter formerly convicted or accused of child abuse? They seem unrelated. Also, putting them together on the show allows the person who left her child in violation of the law to escape responsibility for committing a crime. I would like to see two shows on how to make the lives of children better.
Thank you for all you do.
 
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December 22, 2008, 2:57 pm PST

False Positive System - Exactly!

I'm so tired of the hypocrisy and politically correct attitude going on in today's society.

Its disgusting that the truth is that people are "guilty until they are proven innocent."


 
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December 22, 2008, 3:01 pm PST

Are you a Mom!!!!

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I feel like she was wrong in leaving her child in the car by her self.  However, she has probably learned her lesson with all that has gone down.  Also, education is key here. Some people just do not get "it" and need to be educated.

 

Thanks for listening,

Nancy in Millsboro

learned her lesson!!!! Are you a Mom? Every parents has left thier kids in the car for one reason or another and all she was doing was teaching the older kids to give something back this time of year, and at the sametime trying to keep the baby warm. We all do it!! I feel she did nothing wrong matter of a fact she must be doing something right that her kids understand helping others in thier time of need.

 

 

 

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December 22, 2008, 3:03 pm PST

Leaving children unattended...

I can not tell you how many people I have seen leave children in their cars!!!! My husband is a manager of a C-Store and I have had to wait for him on several occasions up to 2 hours to be done w/ work and I  have seen as many as 10 adults who have left children in vehicles in that 2 hour time period. Young children: toddlers, infants, preschoolers, et ecetera...sleeping, awake, in car seats and out of car seats...car running, doors locked, car off, doors unlocked! They were all thinking the same thing....I'm just going to run in get my cigarettes, soda, candy bar, fuel or whatever and come right back out.

 

At first I was appalled that there were that many people leaving children in cars...until I had to look after 4 kids all under 6 and I couldn't unstrap, remove and supervise those kids just to snag some drinks and gum. It just wasn't easily feasible.

 

I do understand there are great risks when children are left in vehicles...I thought about that when I was watching children being left in cars. I thought: "these people have NO idea who's in the parking lot...they have no idea who are good people and who's looking for an adorable child!" I would sit there for 2 hours at a time and the nature of the business w/ tons and tons of traffic, there's NO telling what could happen. The attendants are very busy and patrons coming and going at a fast pace...no one can really keep track of everything that's going on. 

 

Now...here at this C-store it is possible to not have your car in view while in the store and I saw that quite a lot as well...there was a newborn left in a running vehicle while the mother spent more than 7 minutes in the gas station. Seven minutes...in 7 minutes someone could have jumped in the car, drove off and been out of the city and in another state w/ in 8 more minutes!!!!!!

 

But it's not child abuse or neglect and thank God and all his powers that I live in a city where crime is super low! I was also thankful that if anything did happen I was there in the parking lot as well...it takes a village!

 
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December 22, 2008, 3:04 pm PST

Many times this is kept hidden

As a teacher I know that this is a hot topic. I see the reactions both ways all the time. However, there are many times that this is unrecognized and my situation is a perfect example. From the days our children were infants, my wife would leave them alone and go shopping. I would frequently get phone calls from neighbors and others that my children were left alone and I would have to leave work and go to them. I could never get my wife to understand that this was wrong. It finally came to a head when i got a call from my oldest daughter, who had just come home from high school, saying, "Dad the neighbors have Amanda, they won't let her go, and they've called the police." Amanda was 5. My wife went to the other side of the county to meet a man. I left work and went to the neighbor's. As I came up, Amanda joyfully came to the car; she was fine. The neighbors apologized but said that my wife let her come over early in the morning and then left.  They said they didn't mind watching her if they had been asked but they hadn't and there were things they had to do. They asked me if I knew what was going on, that they knew my schedule, that visitors came over as soon as I left. I didn't have a clue. I apologized and took Amanda home. When the police came, they said, "Mr. Noel, we are well aware of the problems you're having with your wife, but we're telling you now, if it happens again we're going to take the children." Everybody knew except me, I guess. When my wife came home I calmly tried to get her to understand that this was wrong and got nowhere. She said it was all a mistake. The next day she filed for divorce.

My point is that third parties don't know the facts. I never complained nor would I ever report her, but our children were often in potential danger. This isone reason why I give my cellphone number and email to all of my students and their parents. Each situation needs to be looked at on its own merits and common sense needs to prevail, but with a child anything can happen in an instant.
 
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December 22, 2008, 3:11 pm PST

CPS are child abusers

I was in tears when Lynn said there was family that wanted to care for her son and CPS refused.  I personally know why.  CPS stole my 2 grandkids based on false allegations on their Dad and refused to let me care for them.  CPS makes huge amounts of money placing kids in foster homes.  They make nothing placing kids with relatives.  Bottom line:  CPS would rather TRAUMATIZE kids so they can make $$$MONEY$$$.

 

It took us 12 years, all my retirement money, all my son's money and his house to get our kids back.  CPS needs to be investigated BIG TIME for all the long lasting damage that they're inflicting on innocent families.  Search the yahoo forum groups and you'll see the thousands of people who are being abused by CPS.

 
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December 22, 2008, 3:12 pm PST

Foster parenting

Dear Dr. Phil,

As a foster parent I know there are bad foster parents out there, But I believe there are way more good ones than bad. I just don't like it when bad things are said and nothing good is said about fostering. I think this makes people who may be interested in fostering for the right reasons, change their minds about  doing it. The children need all the help they can get. It is a sad thing but true, there are not nearly enough foster parents for children that need a home. I am thankful for the changes that have been made like  Casa to look out for children while in the foster homes. When I get to old to foster I hope to be able to become a Casa.

 
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