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Topic : 12/25 The Locator: Reunion Aftermath

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Created on : Friday, September 19, 2008, 05:26:33 pm
Author : DrPhilBoard1
Original Air Date: 09/24/08) Do you have a friend or relative whom you've lost all contact with or have never even met? While you may dream about a reunion being a great and healing experience, reconciliation could also cause more heartache than you expect. Catherine was raised by her mother, never knowing who or where her dad was. She recently became a mom, and her desire to find her biological dad became top priority. When she did locate him, was the reunion all that she expected? Next, Angel has been trying to reconnect with her twin sons, Tylor and Taylor, for almost 20 years. With the help of Troy Dunn, a professional locator and host of the WE TV show The Locator, her dreams came true. See how the boys react to reuniting with their biological mother. And, when an adoptive mother finds out her children are going to meet their biological mother, emotions can range from joy, to tension, to feeling threatened. Follow the journey of the twins' adoptive mother, Ruth, as she shares her experience of  meeting Angel. Plus, the twins have never met their little sister face to face. Will this be the day? Then, Ricardo contacted Troy to help him find his brother, whom he had never met. Cameras follow their emotional first meeting, and find out the unexpected person who shows up. Have the siblings been able to maintain their relationship? And, if you're trying to find a long-lost loved one, you won't want to miss Troy's top tips for conducting your own search! Talk about the show here.

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September 24, 2008, 6:19 pm PDT

I'm not sure

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I am 55 years old and over the years I always wondered what happened or if anyone would ever look for me.  I was adoped thru Catholic Charities and in order to locate my parent I would have to pay them money but they could not guarantee anything.  My biggest concern though is the information my parents gave me and what I was able to get from the adoption agency do not match.  What information give to my parent when they first got me states I was baptized Brenda, (my parents changed it) and I was born prematurely and had many health issues.  What information I received claimed I was full term and in good health???I guess I wonder if they are not telling the truth what else is being hidden.  My records are sealed and I have been told cannot be opened but by what this agency.  Needless to say I feel very upset. 

 

I am not sure were you are from, but were i live we have a thing called the freedom if information act, that allows individuals to find out information about themselves, from documentation by agencies.

Anything that pertains to other individuals will be blacked out, but anything pertaining to you specifically will be released. If you live in a place that does nto have this act maybe you have something similar? Worth checking out, if you really need and want to know. I really hoep this helps you find a direction, and that it works out for the best for you! good luck!

Tammy

 
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September 24, 2008, 6:42 pm PDT

Dr. Phil and Troy Dunn

Hi y'all...

Dr. Phil and Troy Dunn, will y'all please help my fellow Dr. Phil Website member, azuil1 aka Kirsten, find her biological mother if she hasn't already.

The Dr. Phil Website staff likely have fellow member azuil1 contact information and could call to see if she's found or mom. If not, if she'd still like to find her mom.

If y'all check out azuil1's posts you will see she was posting on Dr. Phil Website in hopes of finding her biological mother.

Since she has her own toddler daughter now for medical history reasons, too.

Anyway, if y'all check to see posts here I hope you'll help my fellow Dr. Phil Website member azuil1 aka Kirsten. Sincerely and thank you, SEA

SELF MATTERS INCLUDES KIRSTEN
God Bless Kirsten and God Bless Kirsten A Lot

K IRSTEN is our cyber Social Worker with a wealth of information
I NTERESTING and fun with a compassionate heart
R EMARKABLE writing skills with a talent to be easily comprehended by whoever reads  
S PECIAL handle with care approach that shows what a caring person she is   
T RUTHFUL with a touch of grace to smooth any rough edges that candor sometimes can have  
E VERYONE loves to get and read posts from Azuil1 aka Kirsten including me   
N ot one who just sees improvement others could make and does personal inventory prn too

 
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September 24, 2008, 6:59 pm PDT

Should I really do this?

I have known all my life that I was adopted. And as I have gotten older I have become extermely curious about it. I even had my adoptive mother go w/ me to the adoption agency that they got me from. The problem is that every time I bring up the topic around my adoptive mother she get very defensive and even angry. This is something I am secretly wishing to pursue but I don't want to hurt my mom. Do you think I am justified in starting my own search or should I just be grateful for the family that I have?
 
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September 24, 2008, 7:02 pm PDT

Is there more to this adoption?

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There was an very obvious unanswered question in this Dr. Phil show about the mother: Angel and her twin sons. The story is one if absolute kindness and watching a loving, humble,  birth mother, want the information about her twin boys. The VERY disturbing portion that was an Elephant sitting in that reunion of the two mothers, was the ability of the adoptive mother, to have somehow gotten 5 year old twins, given to her, by a disinterested father. And to have never had one contact, through attorneys, with the actual birth mother. This entire situation, is NOT believable, as to how you would go to a church or social club, and end up, through friends, with the offer of  "2" 5 year old children. This adoption story is one of: MONEY! And the people involved were NOT truthful or honest with the birth mother, or had the CHILDREN'S BEST interests at heart. They had THEIR interests at heart first and foremost. The father is the perfect example of those parents who take the children, to punish the spose in the way that would MOST crush and hurt them. And to take ANY child, from a stranger with NO SEARCH for the OTHER PARENT or their family, is despicable at best. Yes, the mother raised the boys, and they seem like wonderful young men. But the cruel truth is, those children were used by the man who took them, and disposed of them, and the adoptive parents and their attroneys, who figured out how to beat the system of the courts, by obtaining those boys. Someone is lying here. And it is not something, that should not be discussed. The horror of having your child stolen and sold IN AMERICA, and ALL the family members keeping silent about this situation, made me feel, happy the mom found them, but heartbroken for the way it was done. Someone needed to be a hero, to that  birth mother , when that father was marketing those children, And NO ONE WAS! I wonder how many more stories like this are out there.? If this people could obtain 5 year old children , without the mother notified, then there must be many more. I think Dr. Phil should do an entire show, on missing and stolen children, abducted by their birth parent, and hiding them, from the other parent. Maybe there would be a few children, returned to their rightful family and not sold or adopted fradulantly. Anyone else wondering or hurting about this part of the story, that WAS NOT discussed?

I saw the actual episode of "The Locator" and my first thought was that if it was an adoption that had paperwork, perhaps he actually paid another woman to sign the papers to make the adoption legitimate.

 

While I don't know all the facts of the case as the episode did not go into all that, my thought initally was this guy used another woman to help make the adoption happen. After all, even when I went to school you still had to have a birth certificate as well as immunization records.

 

Twenty years ago computers were not in every hospital or courthouse and paperwork could have very easily been doctored as well with a simple typewriter.

 

dmende

 
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September 24, 2008, 7:09 pm PDT

www.adoption.com

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Hi Deyna,

My name is Susan and I am in the same boat as you. I am 41 years old and would like to begin searching for my biological mother and or father. I too was given up at birth. I know how much my adoptive parents loved me and it was out of respect to them that I hadn't started the search sooner, however they are both deceased now and I can't help but wonder about my biological parents. I just don't knkow where to even begin????????

The website www.adoption.com as well as other sites are excellent resources to register with if you are looking for your family.

 

I also made a myspace and facebook page with my real name, should my son be a computer geek as I am. People use both sites all the time to find family and friends. At about the same time I registered with the adoption website I created a page on myspace and facebook "just in case."

 

I registered over a year ago, and exactly one year and two days later, I heard from my son on August 28 of this year.

 

He knew about his adoption, but never dreamed he would have as many siblings as he has. He found the site in March of this year, but it took him until August to make the call.

 

The call was 20 years overdue for me. I have now made my facebook and myspace pages private and am uploading photos of the family so he can get aquainted with faces before he comes to meet his siblings in October.

 

dmende 

 
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September 24, 2008, 7:17 pm PDT

finding a love one

I have been looking for my brother for over 20 years. I have done the internet search. I have never recieved useful information. I am sure he lives in the local area.  what more can I do.
 
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September 24, 2008, 7:29 pm PDT

Wonderful show today, but...

Wonderful show today.  It was very moving.  My family has been blessed with the miracle of adoption, the most profound gift possible.  I hope that my son will want to connect with his birth parents one day.  We have occasional communication with both the birth mother and birth father.  They are our heroes, and we are so very grateful.

Dr. Phil, you referred to parents today as "adoptive mothers" and "adoptive fathers."  I think pretty universally those of us who have adopted children find that term diminishing and hurtful.  My son is not my "adopted son" he is my SON, and I am his mother.  This is a mistake many people make, and I realize no harm is intended.  But please realize that the parents who raise the child, who feed, clothe, comfort, and make a lifetime commitment to love forever... those are the Parents, the real mother and father.  The biological parents are the birth parents and they are to be cherished, respected and revered.  But please don't call us "adoptive" parents.

 

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September 24, 2008, 7:40 pm PDT

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I just saw the show with Catherine (sp).  Anyway, I know she is young and probably did not mean to sound this way, but I saw her to be a spoiled brat (sorry if this sounds harsh, but).  She has had a mom and a brother, and now she is lucky enough to find her father and all she can think of is "how can this help me"?  "How can I get money from him?"

 

I have never met my father (thank God because he tried to kill my mother when he found out she was pregnant with me).  My last name is the same as the cop she filed the restraining order against my father with (they were dating by this time and we was in the delivery room when I was born, and he was a man...also, she told me she did not want me to have her last name).  My mother was a violent, abusive alcoholic.  My mother let me know how much she wanted me all the time.  She told me that I was the reason for all of her problems, that I ruined her life, that the only reason she kept me around is so she could keep getting food stamps and walefare (booze money), and that if abortion had been legal I would not be alive (I have blocked out most of my childhood, but still remember a lot of the words).  After she hauled me all over the US until I was 10, she dropped me of at a facility and put me up for adoption.  I was in and out of foster homes and treatment facilities till I was 16 when I emancipated myself (illegally, but still out). I have slept on the street (on the beach actually and you don't realize just how alone you are until you have no where to go), I did crystal meth till I was 20 (which I quit myself, no rehab...if I hadn't quit I would have died).  I finally moved away from San Diego and started over.  I worked odd jobs, got married, got divorced, and finally joined the Air Force.  That was my turning point.  I now have my own home, 4 college degrees, and am going to make it. 

 

I know this is a big rambling mess, but it is my way of saying...you have a mom and a brother.  I wish I could be so lucky.  I have no mom, dad, grandparents, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins...you get the picture...anyway, don't look at your father as anyone who owes you anything.  Feel grateful he even agreed to meet you in the first place.  Do you know how many fathers know they have kids and don't care at all...you are so lucky, don't ruin it with your entitlement mentality and selfishness.  Think of all the kids out there who will never have the opportunity to know their father's, or any of their family for that matter.

 

 
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September 24, 2008, 7:48 pm PDT

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Cannot believe the adasity of this young lady. I heard money money money... Her intentions of 'getting to know her Dad' are pathetic. I, to this date do NOT know my biological father, and I can say HONESTLY money would not even cross my mind.. my pain in my heart would be first and foremost! I met my birth Mom several years ago.. and was not the lady whom I expexted her to be.. and do not speak to her... Materials were her way of showing love.. My way is to LOVE from the heart not from the wallet.

Shame on catherine.

 

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September 24, 2008, 7:53 pm PDT

09/24 The Locator: Reunion Aftermath

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I HAD A FRIEND I LOST TRACK OF 15 YEARS AGO AND SHE FOUND ME THROUGH THE COMPUTER.I WAS SO HAPPY AT FIRST ONLY TO FIND OUT SHE DID'NT WANT TO BOTHER AFTER ALL.SHE CALLED ME AND I WANTED SO MUCH TO MEET HER.I MEAN AFTER 15 YEARS WHY WOULD'NT I.ANYWAY IT DIDNT HAPPEN SHE KEPT MAKING EXCUESS'S AND LOTS OF THEM.I WAS SO BROKEN HEARTED.I DECIDED TO FOLLOW ONE OF DR.PHIL'S RULES.HOWS IT WORKING FOR YOU.AND IT WAS'NT SO NEEDLESS TO SAY SHE NEVER DID COME AND I NEVER DID GET TO MEET HER.IT HURTS BUT YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO GET ON WITH IT.OH THE REASON I COULD'NT FIND HER AND YES I WAS ;LOOKING.SHE GOT MARRIED AND HER NAME CHANGED.IM STILL DISAPPOINTED BUT YOU GET ON WITH YOUR OWN LIFE.YES I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO MEET HER AFTER 15 YEARS.BUT I GUESS SHE DID'NT WANT TO MEET ME.MY QUESTION WOULD BE AND I HAVE ASK HER.IS WHY DID SHE EVEN BOTHER.SHE CAN'T SEEM TO ANSER THAT WHEN I ASKED HER.AND THEN SHE GOT MAD AT ME FOR WHAT I DONT KNOW.
Maybe she wanted to see you but something in her life was a mess or wrong in some way and she was embarrassed or something.  I had a friend who got married and then all of the sudden my emails got returned'blocked, then I had a friend who I went to school (online) with, who came to stay with me after we graduated.  When she got back home, she slowly lost touch.  I know she had a lot of major health issues, but I'm still not sure what happened.  There is a saying about people coming into our lives for a season and a reason; or something like that...sometimes God removes some things from our lives to make room for something else. 
 
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