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Topic : 09/25 Fireproof Your Marriage

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Created on : Thursday, September 25, 2008, 01:17:13 pm
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Have you ever had a horrible day at work and came home and dumped your baggage on your spouse? Or are you the type to bottle up your emotions and shut yourself off to loved ones? Police officers and firemen have to look death in the face every day. Their stress levels are so intense that 75 to 90 percent of their marriages end in divorce. This was the outcome for Ty and Wendy's 11-year marriage. Ty is a police officer, and Wendy says he brought his anger home and treated her and their three kids like they were inmates in jail. Ty acknowledges his negative behavior and wants to know how to change it. The couple is considering getting remarried, but will they feel the same after Dr. Phil tells them the five things they must do to make their relationship work? Then, get a sneak peak at Kirk Cameron's new movie, Fireproof, which explores the private battles many people who work extreme jobs face. Kirk and the moviemakers join Dr. Phil and share why they were so passionate about getting this movie made. Then, Kelly says her marriage is in trouble. Her husband of 16 years, John, recently became a firefighter, and she says she feels like a single mom because he puts more time into his job than his family. And, hear from Karin whose husband, Karl, has been a firefighter for 19 years. Learn the ways she handles her husband's intense emotions and how they maintain a good relationship. These are not the only extreme jobs that can cause marital crises. If your spouse is a workaholic and your marriage is suffering, you don't want to miss this show. 


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September 27, 2008, 4:37 pm PDT

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I am a Dr. Phil fan but I have to say he was too focused on the husband's "problems." This guy's wife showed no appreciation or understanding for the husband's stresses and what he was doing for his family. I wanted to give her a copy of Dr. Laura's "Proper Care & Feeding of Husbands."

Dr. Phil should read a copy too to remind him of the husband's needs.
Can I remind you that yes, they sometimes have stress at work, but other times, while us "moms" are home with 2+ kids, never getting a second of help never mind a break, our husbnads are at work sometimes without many calls?  They are watching tv and playing cards all day...I wish!
 

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September 27, 2008, 4:42 pm PDT

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I can relate to what you are saying. I to am married to a a man in the military who has been overseas. Although, I haven't dealt with PTSD, I have dealt with losing the connection we once had. We both changed as a result of the deployment but haven't seem to be able to find our way back to one another or come to some middle ground. I could relate to this show Dr. Phil did. There are many times & I have discussed with him where the job has come before our family. I know to a certain degree it has to. He signed up to be a solider but he also choose to be a husband & a father. And when there is a major situation going on with the family , whether it be emotionally or more importantly physically (our family has dealt with alot of health issues) I feel like he checks out. I too often feel like I'm in a marriage by myself.
I agree with you.  If only our husbands could commit and put 50% of the energy that they put into their work into their marriage too.  You're not alone.
 
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September 27, 2008, 9:58 pm PDT

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Dear Dr. Phil,

My husband is both a firefighter & sheriffs deputy.  If 75 - 80% of firefighters & officers marriages fail, wow are we in for it!  My husband, Rex, has been with our fire department for over 9 years & 2 years ago became a deputy.  I never worried at all about our relationship when he became a firefighter, I was 5 months pregnant with our first son when he joined on.  I was, however, worried when he became a deputy.  Our deputies  (and entire department for that matter) don't have the greatest track records for being faithful partners.  Rex comes from a family of public servants.  His father was a firefighter for over 25 years where he proudly served as Battalion Chief, he was our local EMA director, as well as a deputy, all at the same time!!!  His older brother works for our sheriffs department as a Major.  Both served in the Air Force.  We definitely have some experience to back us up.  Luckily I married a great man with strong morals & ethics.  He will help people in whatever way he can, whether it be substance abuse help to just giving you a hug. To this day Rex tells me, quite often, how hot I am or how great I look today.  And this is a difficult feat because I have very low self-esteem & he has worked so hard in over 10 years of marriage to lift me up. 

He rarely brings his job home.  If he does, I let him rant on, & I usually rant with him because I want him to know I am on his side, ALWAYS.  Rex doesn't judge people strongly, he is so incredibly level-headed & very laid-back. I, on the other hand, am not.  I'm the difficult one to live with : )  He doesn't ask alot of me & never puts me down.

 But not to sound disgustingly in love, he is wonderful.  Don't get me wrong, sometimes I have to bring him back down to earth!  He really likes being a deputy & I have to remind him that he has a family who misses him, not his check.  He works so hard to support us that I remind him that while we may need the money, spending time with him is so much more important. We had a serious discussion about him staying on his cell phone when he would come in at night.  Now, when he comes home he only answers calls from family & turns his department phone off.  I made it clear WE want his time when he's there. The sheriffs department functioned fine before he arrived, & will continue to do so while he is away. I made him understand during this conversation what I needed & wanted and asked him what he needed of me.  I made it clear I wasn't attacking him.  His 2 boys are so important to him & he always takes time out to spend with them.  God, how did I ever get so lucky?! 

Anyway Dr. Phil, thanks for reminding me of what I have & just how proud I am to have it.

 
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September 28, 2008, 2:09 pm PDT

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Yes, he did mention "All First Responders" atleast once, but it's the fact he put so much into firefighters and police officers and left out the other very important Public Service Providers. Obviously you do not have a Paramedic or EMT in your family or you would completely understand how leaving out a very important part of Public Service can be so insulting.
Actually my husband is a Firefighter/ Paramedic so yes I do have one in my family. SORRY!
 
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September 28, 2008, 2:18 pm PDT

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Think of it this way.  How about if your Mom and Dad had a party to honor all of your brothers and sisters, but only publicly recognized two of them, and you weren't one of the two? And on top of that, you weren't invited to the party?  How would you feel?  We as EMS workers weren't even represented on the show.  I have been a paramedic for six years now and have VERY rarely heard EMS mentioned specifically when the subject of front line responders is brought up.  You must not be in EMS or you would know what I'm talking about.  I mean no disrespect, but you just have to be in an EMS worker's position to truly understand where we come from.  We see as much death and destruction as fire fighters do.  Who do you think transports the burn patients to the hospital?  It's surely not the police or firemen. 

 

I have the utmost respect for both of those fields.  My life has been protected more times than I can count by these brothers and sisters.  I think that if I brought up the subject to any one or all of my colleagues in those fields, they would understand how I feel. 

I live in Odessa Texas and my husband is a firefighter/ paramedic. They alternate shifts on who will be on the box (medic) and who will be on the truck (fire). My husband not only is a firefighter but is paramedic as well. So yes, firefighters are the ones who transport the patients to the hospital in my city. I married to an EMS worker so I know exactly how you feel.
 
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September 28, 2008, 8:04 pm PDT

"Fireproof"

I just saw the new movie "fireproof".  What a wonderful movie!!!!!!!!  As a christian, I was anxious to go and support the movie.  I thoroughly enjoyed "Chasing the Giants" and  "Flywheel", so I have eagerly been anticipating this movie.  I was not disapppointed.  It was an affirmation that after 20 years of marriage, my husband and I are still doing it right.  We do not take each other for granted and we love each other, in other words, our marriage is "fireproof".  I will give the books as a wedding gift.  I think the "love dare" is a must have for all married people, men and women, alike.  I enjoyed the show Kirk Cameron was on last week and was glad to have the insight before I went to see the movie.  Everyone needs to see this movie!!!
 
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September 29, 2008, 9:33 am PDT

THANK YOU DR PHIL!

This topic is a sensitive one to me.  My husband is a police officer and deals with all of the stress that was discussed on your show.  I am a social worker and there are days when neither of us have anything left to give our own children (ages 6 and 3) let alone each other.  One thing that was not discussed is the problem with money.  Everyone knows that police officers are not paid as they should be and when you add student loans in to the mix- it is VERY hard to financially survive.  I do not like my job but stick with it to pay the bills and although my husband enjoys being a police officer, it hurts him to see the toll it takes on his family.  He works nights, and is usually called in for overtime- leaving me as a single parent repeatedly.  It is SO hard!  I completely believe the stats about marriage.  We've seen so many of our coworkers' marriages destroyed over and over again.  Constantly dealing with the evils of this world are almost too much for us too, but we keep plugging away because we love each other and our children too much to let it tear us apart.

 
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September 29, 2008, 12:08 pm PDT

me too!

My husband wasn't a police officer until after we married. If I could have only seen the future! We have 2 college age kids both live away from home now. SInce he has been in law enforcement he has missed almost all special occasions and when he was present, he was too tired so he might as well have not been there, but never too tired to go fishing! Many a holiday I have spent alone, many a christmas morning begging him to get up and see the kids...

Anyways, he now works prob 80 hours or more a week...and I am all alone all the time. He can't understand why I have a problem with that. I do not know any of his friends/coworkers, I am "not allowed" to go to his work or the town he works in. He has an apartment in town because we live outside the city limits and we didn't want our children in that school system and his position requires him to live in the city limits....but our kids are in college now so we could move to the city....he stays there most nites and sometimes he stays elsewhere but won't tell me where or with whom? He says I'm too nosey. I feel I have a right to know. Our house is falling apart, our marriage is gone, or intimacy is nonexisitant for 14 years!! all because of his job. He's saving the world and watching our marriage go down the drain. I have been begging him to go to couseling together...that we are wasting away our youth. Our kids are in college and we could be having a wonderful time just the two of ous.. All he can talk about is retirement. ..so hopefully they will errect a statue of him when he passes as one of the greatest law enforcement officers in the whole world...on his tombstone I will refuse to put loving father and husband....his children don't even know him and don't even like to talk to him unless they absolutely have to and he just doesn't get it. When he does come home all he wants to watch is negative cop shows and look up crime on the internet....he has become so negative about everything I don't even know if he has any joy in his life.  I have been begging him for years for his attention and he says I have just bitched him to death....just asking him to do help with a house hold chore was "bitchig" to him...but I'm coming to the conclusion that you shouldn't have to beg someone to be with you...if they wanted to they would...so to all of us spouses waiting for them to love us...we need to decide if they're worth waiting for....

You're prob asking...why not divorce...I don't want to be alone but I am alone..idk...

 
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September 29, 2008, 2:08 pm PDT

THANK YOU DR. PHIL!!

I want to that you for promoting Fireproof the movie and having Kirk Cameron as your guest. It is wonderful to see that there are celebrities that are not afraid to acknowldge their Christian faith and what they believe in. I have seen the movie and I highly recommend it! I woud also recommend "The Love Dare" book as well as the "Love and Respect" book and curriculum by  Dr. Emerson Eggerichs. My husband  and I host pre-marital classes and are marriage mentors through our church and we have found that the "Love and Respect" curriculum to be helpful personally and for the couples in our groups as well. May God bless all of you!

 
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September 29, 2008, 9:48 pm PDT

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My husband wasn't a police officer until after we married. If I could have only seen the future! We have 2 college age kids both live away from home now. SInce he has been in law enforcement he has missed almost all special occasions and when he was present, he was too tired so he might as well have not been there, but never too tired to go fishing! Many a holiday I have spent alone, many a christmas morning begging him to get up and see the kids...

Anyways, he now works prob 80 hours or more a week...and I am all alone all the time. He can't understand why I have a problem with that. I do not know any of his friends/coworkers, I am "not allowed" to go to his work or the town he works in. He has an apartment in town because we live outside the city limits and we didn't want our children in that school system and his position requires him to live in the city limits....but our kids are in college now so we could move to the city....he stays there most nites and sometimes he stays elsewhere but won't tell me where or with whom? He says I'm too nosey. I feel I have a right to know. Our house is falling apart, our marriage is gone, or intimacy is nonexisitant for 14 years!! all because of his job. He's saving the world and watching our marriage go down the drain. I have been begging him to go to couseling together...that we are wasting away our youth. Our kids are in college and we could be having a wonderful time just the two of ous.. All he can talk about is retirement. ..so hopefully they will errect a statue of him when he passes as one of the greatest law enforcement officers in the whole world...on his tombstone I will refuse to put loving father and husband....his children don't even know him and don't even like to talk to him unless they absolutely have to and he just doesn't get it. When he does come home all he wants to watch is negative cop shows and look up crime on the internet....he has become so negative about everything I don't even know if he has any joy in his life.  I have been begging him for years for his attention and he says I have just bitched him to death....just asking him to do help with a house hold chore was "bitchig" to him...but I'm coming to the conclusion that you shouldn't have to beg someone to be with you...if they wanted to they would...so to all of us spouses waiting for them to love us...we need to decide if they're worth waiting for....

You're prob asking...why not divorce...I don't want to be alone but I am alone..idk...

Hey,

 

Read my response titled...Eye Opener. Seriously, try some of these ideas. I really feel for you  and the situation you are in. Hopefully he wants the same and will have an open mind. It really can work if you are both wiling.

 

Best Wishes...

 
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