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(Original Air Date: 10/03/08) It’s being called the ultimate form of child abuse -- brainwashing your children against an ex-spouse to win custody. Could you be harming your child emotionally and not even know it? First up, Ken is a successful surgeon who says he’s the victim of parental alienation syndrome (PAS). He says he hasn’t seen his 14-year-old son since last October and claims his ex-wife destroyed what was once a loving father-son relationship. Mel Feit, director of the National Center for Men, says Ken’s situation is a classic case of kids being turned against their father, but family law attorney Liz Kates says PAS is a phony tactic used by some men to get out of paying child support. What does Dr. Phil think? Then, Karen lost custody of her children after she was accused of parental alienation syndrome by her ex-husband. Karen maintains her innocence, so why were her parental rights terminated when her daughters accused her ex of sexual abuse? Plus, 19-year-old Demi joins the show via Web cam and says her father verbally abused her mother during their divorce. Now, she fears that her 15-year-old sister is caught in the middle. Find out what you can do if you’re caught between sparring parents. And, meet a father so desperate to see his young children, he kidnapped them from his ex-wife and went on the lam for two years. Talk about the show here.


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October 3, 2008, 11:53 pm PDT

Parental Alienation Awareness Day

 
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October 3, 2008, 11:58 pm PDT

Bereavement Without End

Bereavement Without End-A Plea From Alienated Parents Everywhere The death of a child is indisputably one of the most incredibly horrible tragedies one can imagine. Whether by sudden accidental circumstance, or by a more lengthy cause as in illness, the loss of a child is undeniably painful to experience.Painful to the parents, parents to the family, and painful to anyone related to the child. Never knowing the laughter of that child again or the tears, the joys and the accomplishements is a pain no parent should ever have to endure, and yet it happens. No one is to blame. It just happens. Imagine the same pain and the same sense of loss, with one exception-the parent is very much aware that the child is alive. The effects of Parental Alienation Syndrome are very similar to the loss of a child due to accident or illness. For the parent who has been alienated from their child, the bereavement does not end. How do we know? Each alienated parent separately, and all of us collectively have lived with both the cause and the effect of Parental Alienation for countless years. Like a terminally fatal childhood disease, Parental Alienation rips the innocent child from your arms slowly. You witness the suffering. You witness the effects. You can feel the impending doom is inevitable, but you are powerless to do anything about it. You try remedy after remedy hoping that one will finally rid your child of the "disease". You work like a person possessed in order to finance the efforts, and when the final blow comes, it is emotionally devastating. You question yourself. You blame yourself for the loss. You tell yourself you should have done more. The very sad part of the story, is it is not unique. There are hundreds of thousands of children and parents affected by PAS. We beg of those with the power to make people aware of this devastatingly horrible phenomena, to please do all they can to educate people on its effects, and to change the laws to protect the innocence of the children involved. Only then can we truly hope to keep children safe from the harmful side effects that are inherent with Parental Alienation itself. It's killing the spirit of family everywhere.
 
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October 4, 2008, 12:01 am PDT

10/03 "Brainwashed by My Parents"

No other agenda here Dr Phil. Unless we feel that the truth and the consitution providing "equality for all" in family law is an exception to the rule of law or in some way above it all?

 

Here are a few of the agenda's others have shown work equally as well are just as smart as we like to think we are when we hope to share this with other parents on TV? Please be a part of the solution with Oprah and let's please start teaching that parents can be unselfish and honest in Fam Court or the will be the parent paying child support to the Daddy [like Kev Fedline v Britney]:

 

Steve writes:

Fathers shed real tears too - Especially when so many of our gov officials

refuse to listen to the constitution in order only to gain more votes and

more money?

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In Apr 2007 - The Washington State Legislature passed into law SB5470

"This is a bill which removes barriers that kept judges from awarding

shared parenting. Although this bill is a far cry from an actual shared

parenting bill, it is another positive step forward for non-custodial

parents in 40 years! SB5470 removed the requirement that both parties

needed to agree to shared parenting before it could be awarded. With

passage of the bill, judges will now be able to award custody that is in

the best interest of the child, even if one parent feels shared

parenting should not be allowed [for the 1st time in history]."

 

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In 2008 NEW Fox Reality SHOW to AIR DEADBEAT Parents!

According to Reuters, in the show Jim Durham, director of the National

Child Support Center, "functions as a sort of 'Dog the Bounty Hunter'

for tracking deadbeats PARENTS...[Durham's role is as] an avenger of

penniless single fathers and mothers [who enjoys] hunting down deadbeat

moms and dads and forces them to ALL pay their child support...on TV?

It's REAL ambush reality TV."

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Please send your comments about this show targeting poor parents in

discrimination to FOX:

Fox Executives

Scott Grogin, Senior Vice President

Corporate Communications

310-369-4733, fax 310-369-1283

scott.grogin@fox.com <mailto:scott.grogin@fox.com>

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In 2008 Denmark Makes Joint Custody Mandatory In Most Cases?

Category: News and Politics

America has an opportunity to learn from failures in Europe. Many

countries are creating mandatory joint custody (certain exclusions

apply) laws and are becoming more family friendly. Children have a

fundamental, God-given right to be loved, educated, guided and nurtured

by both fit and willing parents. To deny this right is child abuse.

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"In a more balanced and less adversarial legal process, 1 glaring

statistic may help...in the last 10 years 300,000 non-custodial &

custodial parents have taken their own lives, and that of their own

children based on the current adversarial process in place."

SRene2004

 

In 2008 – Orlando, FL

The Calee Anthony Case

After custody case was going to be filed by grandparents vs the Mother.

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October 4, 2008, 12:23 am PDT

Brainwashed by foster parent

We got into a custody battle with my niece and nephews foster parents.  Those people brain was the children in their home and the foster mother has tried to turn her step son against his mother.  This woman is a danger to children...scarry that is the kind of home the state places children in.  My last knowledge of that home they had 7 foster children plus his child and her child. 

 

I totally believe in the parent allianation and brainwashing by parents or other people trying to gain custody of children and it has to do both with money and control.

 

 
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October 4, 2008, 12:43 am PDT

So Glad to See PAS on TV!

I sat there tonight watching the episode about "Brainwashing" and PAS and I swear an hour has never gone by so fast in my whole life!

 

I've been involved in a nasty custody battle for the past 3 years. We've been divorced for 8. This all started when he wanted to move two hours away with our kids to be with his new wife. He had an attorney and I didn't. And I fought it till the bitter end.

 

And yes, our oldest (not so much our younger, our son) was so completely brainwashed by my ex. To the point that she was, and just like the guest tonight said, she was telling the evaluators that I wasnt feeding them, leaving them home alone etc etc. Same ol song and dance! And according to my ex, when it was time for me to pick up the kids, they would drop to the floor and BEG their Dad to let them stay with him. Ironically enough, when I would pick them up, they would run out the door to hug me totally with smiles and joy.....hhhmmmm!

 

I tried a few times to bring up the issue of what was truly going on and what his motive was. When I brought up Parental Alienation Syndrome to the "female Judge", she laughed in my face and said, "OH dont give me that line of garbage." The courts didn't truly see what was going on. The mediators, evaluators, therapists....none of them would see it. Yet, I saw it. My family and friends all saw it. And as depressed as my kids were becoming, they obviously saw it.

 

The biggest issue, in my opinion, and this is based on past experiences...I dont think anyone will deny that when a couple divorces, the kids are put in the middle. Its been happening since the first divorce out there. So yes, the courts do realize that alienation and manipulation does go on WAY more than it should. But what the courts are so very not ready to face is the "psycobabble" of it being a "syndrome." When it reality it is. It has been proven over and over again that this type of behavior from a malicious ex spouse is VERY damaging to a child. Maybe not so much at the time, but when they grow up.....most of the time they do figure it out and turn on the parent doing the alienating. And this is what I recently told my ex. While I don't want to see any long term damage from all of this, I can guarantee you that SOMEDAY my kids will ask why it is that they were taken from their Mom and made to move two hours away. And yes, like the other parents on the show today, I was accused of abuse, neglect and substance abuse issues. Yet they have ALL come back unfounded. But he had the funds for legal help and I did not. And it gets you to the point that you truly wonder....are the Judges, evaluators, mediators in our small town...all having lunch together??

 

Like Ive said from the start...there are kids that are truly being abused/neglected etc....but normally they are confused by this and will actually protect the abusing parent. Not refuse to see them. Loving a parent is just as much a natural emotion as loving your child is. Its unconditional. And its such a shame that the court system doesn't see that. Helllo...when a child is not wanting to be with a parent or pulling away....there is something very unhealthy going on.

 

And just like Glen Shultz, I too was so ready to pack them up and head for Mexico as my last resort. Luckily I came to my senses in the end and finally just threw in the towel...So now Im dealing with my only two babies living two hours away. But at least in a few years, things will change. I have faith with that. But had I taken off like I was so ready to, our relationship would have been ruined forever.

 

I just hope that my ex watched the show! And the Judge for that matter.....

 

Cuz PAS does exist. And its time that its given the importance that it should.

 

But just in case he didn't, I took REALLY good notes and will be sending him his list of THE 5 THINGS he has done the past three years that will most likely screw up the same children he just fought and paid almost 100k to get full custody of!

 

Thank You.

 
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October 4, 2008, 1:27 am PDT

BRAINWASHED

I started Splitntwo to stop parental alienation, against children and both mother's and father's. Children have the right to and deserve a happy, healthy, loving relationship with both Mom and Dad.  I never had a name or a diagnosis for what my children and I have experienced until a few years ago. I typed in a mother being denied her children in google and was amazed there was a name for it, let alone others that were experiencing the same.  Alienated children are living in a cult like environment and no matter what you do to get the other parent to stop and see what damage it is doing to the children, the alienator refuses. Time is on the side of the alienator! With Parental Alienation time stands still. 

 

Since Splitntwo was created thousands of parent's and even alienated children have contacted us, desperate for help and support. There are some common denominators between targeted parent's and children as to how this affects them. They have a profound sadness, an emptiness, "a pain that hurts so bad you can't breathe" all from the loss of their parent or child. An anger that is consuming and a desperate desire and need just to have any little piece of their lives. Alienated children are  trained soldiers, brainwashed, and made to feel guilty and sometimes even punished for wanting to love and to be loved by the other parent. Children believe what they were told by the alienating parent, even if their memories told them otherwise. The children are Split n two, they have no voice. When they finally become adult's they don't always pick up the phone or write you a letter and say OK  come and get me, now that I am allowed to do what's best for ME. They can't! They have been brainwashed, programed and now believe everything they've ever been told.

 

The alienating parent's have been successfully turned the children into soldiers for someone else's battle. The desecration of a parent/child relationship is successful by the alienator once again. In most case's adult children eventually have contact with the parent and most people are able share the truth. The children sometimes become angry with the other parent for all the years they robbed them of with the other parent. They are filled with resentment and sorrow. Some are lucky enough to stop the alienation before it progresses to a severe case.  Most parent's cannot afford the fight they have on their hands or they already have spent every dime they had trying to get our Court's to help them, to recognize whats going on and make it stop.  You mourn as if they are gone forever.

The pain never subsides it only sinks deeper into our hearts and soul's. What we once were, to our children is gone forever. No more, of what everyone else takes advantage of. The experiences and joys we once had with our children or parent's are stolen from us without notice. As we watch everyone else with their family, the simple thing's are what stand out. You smile because it's sweet or it's a reminder of what you use to have. What people don't realize is our smile's and our spirit's are broken. Going through the motion's of life waiting for that one day you'll see them again, wondering if they will ever feel your love again. 

 

I am one of these parent's and my children are these children! 

We have seen each other one time for just a few moments in what will soon be six years.

My son is a grown man and has not made that call nor has he written me a letter to bring him home. They are not the same children they once were, we are now strangers to each other. After all this time I never felt as if my children would never return to me. But the fact of the matter is, anything is possible both good and bad! We can no longer be silent or sit idling by. No child should be denied the other half of who they are.

 

Keep the Faith Jeremiah 31: 16-17

 
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October 4, 2008, 2:53 am PDT

10/03 "Brainwashed by My Parents"

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Dear Dr. Phil,

 

My wife recently recorded your show regarding Parent Alienation Syndrome.  I sat and watched this show as if it were a chapter in my life.  I feel like my hands have been tied all these years since separating from my ex.

 

I was with my first son's mother for five years before deciding to separate.  We never had the chance to marry but that made no difference in the feelings I had for my beautiful son Reggie.  My son and I, in the beginning, shared a wonderful bond of love and trust.  The day he was born remains one of the greatest memories I have experienced.

 

After our separation in 1995, I made every effort to be with him to create a positive bond.  Though the visitation was mainly her trying to reconcile with me I did my best to concentrate on my son.  When she saw I had no interest in reconciliation her attitude changed.  The visitations were now different and my son seemed distant and afraid to approach me.  My ex would purposely engage in arguments with me in front of our child and I would end up leaving frustrated.

 

In 1996, I fell in love with my wife, Yolanda and moved into a house later that year.  My wife had a 16 year old daughter and a 5 year old son.  Reggie was 4 years old at that time. Things were alright the first time Reggie was allowed to come and visit for the weekend.  But, after he returned to his mother's home we began to have trouble with him coming to visit.  Each time I would try to go and pick him up he would cry and I would end up leaving him with his Mom.  I felt horrible, and didn't understand why he was acting this way.  The first time he came to the house to be with us, it was as if he were magically blended into the family with hardly any animosity.  That made no difference to my ex.  She would question my son every time he came to visit.  She would also call him constantly not allowing us to properly bond when he was with me.  It became more and more difficult to convince him to visit.   When he did decide to come he would cry or ask me questions that were planted in his head by his mother.  Things went from bad to horrible when she found out my wife was pregnant.

 

During the pregnancy I rarely got to see Reggie.  His mother seemed to fill his mind with hatred and he no longer wanted me to even be in the same room with him.  She began receiving welfare benefits and I chose to began a case with the attorney general for child.  Well since she was on child support, the attorney general came after me for back pay child support and ordered me to a hearing in court.  I was not able to attend the court date because, Brandon was born at 3 a.m.  The attorney for my ex screwed me with back pay and supervised visitation.  I was furious and felt betrayed.  Early 1998 was the last time I had any time with my son.  He no longer visited me or called.  Approximately two years later, she decided to move to Las Vegas.  My heart sunk, and I begged the attorney general to intervene.  They advised me to seek counsel.  I did not have the funds to follow their advice.  I researched as much as possible and could not find an answer before she moved.  In an effort to stay in contact with him I would call or mail him letters.  The calls were difficult to navigate with the hatred I received from him.  Or his mother would intercept the call and say he was not home.  I tried numerous time to call only to be frustrated or passed around to someone other than my son.  Three years went by and the calls became a punishment for me and my family.  I would start the call with optimism and hangup in anger and distress.  My son and grew apart and our conversations were bitter.  We lost touch and they moved and I had trouble finding them.

 

In February of 2003, as a member of the United States Air Force, I was tasked to go to Iraq for one year.  I called the attorney general to get her phone number.  They would not give me the address.  I called Reggie to tell him I loved him and explained to him what was happening.  That conversation was not good.  He didn't seem to care.  During my tour I would mail him little tokens to let him know that I was thinking of him.  Most of it was returned to sender as the wrong address.  I tried to call but the number was disconnected.  My spirit was crushed.  My wife did her best to keep me positive and focused during my tour.  In my desperation, I prayed that he was alright and would forgive me for everything I had put him through.  One day, while reading my email, I came across an email from my wife telling me that she had located Reggie by way of an EOB (explanation of benefit) she received from a psychiatrist he was seeing.  Desperate to speak with him, and worried to death, I asked my wife for the doctor's number.  I called the doctor and asked him if it would be okay if I could email Reggie, at the doctor's email address to tell him I loved and missed him.  When my ex found out about this she stopped bringing him to the doctor and I did not hear from them for another two years.  I would hear from her two years later regarding health insurance cards for Reggie.  I was not allowed to speak to him then either.

 

If this is not the definition of "alienation" of a parent, could someone please make me understand what my son and I are experiencing.  I have lost what I feel is a lifetime with this child.  I don't know what to do anymore or where to turn.  As a man I feel as if there are minimal to no options for me to fight this battle without going into bankruptcy.  Please guide and help me connect with my son.

 

Thank you,

 

Reggie Anderson 

So much has happened and so much time has gone by that I don't know what you can do at this point to connect with your son. When I read your post, it reminds me exactly of the situation my daughter is in. She is with a man who was previously married. And has a nine year old son from that marriage. My daughter and her boyfriend have spent a lot of time with his son in the past 2 years. At some point during that time the ex decided she wanted to get back with the guy. He is not interested in getting back with her. My daughter is now pregnant. When they first told the boy, he was excited to have a little brother or sister. Then gradually he seemed to change. He TOLD them that his mom said that since they were having a baby, they didn't love him anymore. They have assured him that's not true and they do and always will love him. Right now, he is confused and doesn't seem to know what to think. The logical thing would be to try and reason with the ex and get her to see that she is only hurting her son. But, she is so vindictive and mean that it is impossible to talk to her reasonably. (My daughter had nothing to do with thier divorce-she didn't even know him at that time) I cannot understand why in the world someone would do thier child this way. It is just mind boggling to me. It almosts seems like some sort of emotional child abuse. How in the world can this mother treat her son this way?
 
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October 4, 2008, 4:17 am PDT

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I want to send a message to all of you parents out there that think you're doing the right thing for your child/ren by supporting their "decision" to cut out the non-custodial parent out of their lives, whether they are paying child support or not. 

 

Think about this: If you are in any way, shape or form exaggerating, manipulating, telling white lies, twisting the truth, fabricating events, justifying and/or rationalizing, in order to influence your child/ren's love and opinions of their other parent, YOU ARE COMITTING PARENTAL ALIENATION!  It's that simple and THAT'S CHILD ABUSE! 

 

Children are much more forgiving than us adults and I'm not saying that where there is REAL abuse going on it should be ignored.  Those of you who are truly dealing with abuse know who you are.  This message is not for you.  Its for the rest of you, and YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!  "If you know in your heart that you are doing and saying things that are inaccurate because you really would rather not have to deal with your ex for whatever reason, then you are being selfish and you are robbing your child/ren of their right to love, forgive AND be loved by both their parents. 

 

Natesmom4ever

 

I agree with you 100% NatesMOM!!
 

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October 4, 2008, 4:33 am PDT

Parents against parents

Let's look at the facts.  95% of the time the women gets custody, 15% of the time the men gets custody, 10% of the time there is joint custody.  Conservatively since 2000 there have been over 1 million divorces each year with an average household of 2.3 children.  This means that mothers have gotten custody of over 17,000,000 children and fathers have gotten custody of less than 3 million children in the past 8 years.  This is outrageous and an atrocity to our children to force the father out of a child’s life to play a lesser role.  Anyone that denies this and tries to say that 85% of the men in a divorce are domestic abusers or do not want equal physical custody in there child’s life is self-serving.  I continually hear people say it is about the money.  Yes, they are right, but they got it wrong on whom it is about the money.  Do your research.  The state encourages the courts to have a winner (custodial parent) and losers (non-custodial parent and children), so the state can get more funding from the federal government.  The custodial parent is extorting the children and money from the other parent.  This is not good for any child and any caring parent that put their child first would want this for their child.  I am a victim of paternity fraud by our first child (This is how she got me to marry her) and a victim of parental alienation of my second child.  I only have one biological child.  My ex has 5 children by 4 different biological fathers.  She has gotten custody every time.  It is time for the states to stop their funding at the expense of our children and it is time to stop victimizing fathers and their children with PAS, visitation (visitation – a term used when someone visits someone in jail – can it be anymore obvious what the state is doing – they just come right out and say it), etc.  Those of you that dismiss the facts and the numbers in post are self serving and I pity you and the children that you may have that are being victimized.  There is so much more to say.  For all those that really care please do your research and find out the truth.  Please do not be oppressors or ignorant of what is going on with our children.

 
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October 4, 2008, 4:34 am PDT

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There are mothers groups out there that will help with this problem.  Just steer far away from NAMCM

Why do you say this about them?

 

 
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