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Created on : Friday, October 10, 2008, 02:51:02 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/15/08) During high-stress times we all seek relief. But some people are unable to find an outlet for their pain, and they resort to the drastic act of suicide. Dr. Phil hosts an honest and open discussion about this serious topic in the hopes of saving lives. His first guest is Eric Steel, director of the controversial film The Bridge. The documentary showcases people taking their lives by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, CA. Is this a snuff film or does it raise awareness and create dialogue about this devastating epidemic? Then, meet a couple whose friend's last moments were captured in the documentary. You'll be surprised to hear how they feel about seeing his death on film. Next, did you know that more than half of American college students have considered suicide at some point in their lives? Casey, 17, was bound for college and a bright future, but cut her dreams short when she, too, jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. Her parents share their struggles, including why they blame themselves for her death. And, Dr. Thomas Joiner, psychology professor and author of Why People Die By Suicide, talks about a personal loss that inspired him to devote his professional life to suicide prevention. Find out what he says are the three common traits exhibited by some considering suicide. Plus, learn the critical warning signs to watch for that could be the difference between life and death. And, if you or someone you know is considering suicide, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at (800) 273-TALK. Join the discussion.

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October 16, 2008, 9:04 am PDT

Suidcide

I want to say thany you to Dr. Phil for having this show about suicide. My husband and I watched in fully and it was a blessing for I have been talking to him these pass few days about taking my life and he just does not understand how serious I am at times about it. Watching the show and me pointing out to my husband all the signs that Dr. Phil talked about was very helpful. 

 

I wish to say thanks to Eric Steel for producing the film THE BRIDGE. For it brings forth the seriousness about suicide. I totaly understood all the people that went ahead and jumped off the bridge for I know how it feels when you get trapped into suididal thoughts. I had already tried to take my own life seven times already and each one being worse than the next in reagrds to recovery. The last one was a mere two years ago and how on earth I made it through it I will never know. being in ICU for nearly 1 week was unbearable as the doctors worked on getting my body and organs back to functioning normally. I was stuch having to carry on in life without wanting to be alive. Now being two years later, I have had many thoughts and almost acted uponm such but by the grace of God I have not. 

 

I so much wanted to go on the Dr. Phil show a year ago for the episode that he was having on "BDD Disorder"  but I had not been chosen after numerous phone interviews with his staff. Had I been selected for either one of these shows, would had brought out a whole lot of HELP to others in terms of living on the other side of these disorders. There are numerous suicide support groups for those whom have lost loved ones from suicide but none for those whom actually tried suicide and lived to see another day. I have put so much effort in trying to take my life over the course of nearly 20 years and I am only 44 years old now I am hoping to put just as much zest into my remaining years in wanting to live and carry out what I am to fullfill by still being alive here on earth.

 

I am fortunate that I reside here in Florida and I think I am going to contact Dr. Thomas Joiner who wrote the book Why People die by Suicide. Would love to get some help from him and would also like to be of assistance in giving him a whole lot of info. from the mind of a suicide person. I am planning on getting his book ASAP so that I can read into his point of view to this serious deadly matter.

 

Barbara  

 
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October 16, 2008, 9:13 am PDT

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How dare you say that a suicidal person is at a "pity party!"   Have YOU ever been suicidal? Having made a statement like just "pick herself up and have a wonderful life," I doubt it.  For your information, Clinical Depression and Bipolar Illness take away your ability to just get over it.  YOU don't know what this person's mental health situation or personal history is, so how can you be so flippant?  Walk a mile in her shoes before you spout your idiotic comments!  "Pity party" -- God that pisses me off!

 

 

 I agree with you. My son is bipolar and it sucks. If you have never dealt with yourself or with someone else that is depressed you don't have a freakin clue what it is like. Whoever the idiot is that wrote that needs to remember carma. What goes around comes around. I hope nobody in your family ever has to deal with such a thing.
 
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October 16, 2008, 9:47 am PDT

there is an alternative

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first of all it is no pity party for any  any person in that state i know i live it every day i dont feel sorry for myself i just dont want to be here and yes i do believe in god and i do pray to him but when u feel as i do for as long as i have maybe u would think different no one can understand  your thoughts or feelings until they live it a lifetime  as i have u dont know my only mistake is that i lived through my attempts
please dont kill yourself . I say this as a parent of a suicidal teenager. After I found out that my teenager was planning to take his life it was the most painful thing that I have ever gone through. I still have the worry that someday he may get real depressed again and actually do it. Have you really tried to help yourself as much as you possibly can? you arent just ending your own pain when you kill yourself you are also giving your pain to people who love you to carry for you forever.there is help for people like you but only you can find it and use the help that is available.
 
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October 16, 2008, 9:53 am PDT

I know

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My friend committed  suicide 2 weeks ago.

I have never felt so much pain.

He did tell people he was going to kill himself but he never told me.

He was taking antidepressants.

I know he didnt realize the pain all of us would feel,and how many of us would have done ANYTHING

for him had he just said something. I didnt find out until he was gone that he was thinking of suicide.

Please think, there were people at the funeral from high school completely devastated.

He was 36.

Many people care who arent around every day.

I blame my self for being to busy to see something wasnt right.

I blame the people he talked to who did nothing.

Im going to have a hard time understanding how he could do this to us.

I know life is hard, but its hard for all of us and if you commit suicide you hurt alot of people.

 

 

 

My teenager was suicidal and planning on taking his own life and I had no clue until two of his firends told me and went with me to take him to the hospital to get treated. please please do not blame yourself because it sounds as if he kept it hidden from you just like my son did me. Please dont blame the others he did tell too because they probably didnt take him seriously or know how to deal with it. Your boyfriend was sick and its only too bad he didnt try and help himself more. God bless you!
 
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October 16, 2008, 9:56 am PDT

its s shame

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It's true that one who commits suicide feels despair and hopeless, but there is more. It's the hurt that won't stop. When one is hurting when the emotional damage is severe, they want or need to stop the pain and the options are to live through it or end it. I believe the ones who choose suicide do not have the self will too endure the pain any longer. They can't bare the pain and want to end the pain. The only way they know how is suicide. They do not want to die but cannot see any other way to end the pain.
and this is a shame because there is help if they would only be courageous enough to seek it and work really hard on theirself. I know its a long hard row to hoe but they can work through it without committing suicide and destroying the ones who love them.
 
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October 16, 2008, 9:59 am PDT

please

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I was watching the show and it made me more depressed.  I was thinking why not? 

 

I am sick of being in pain.

I am tired all the time.

I have no friends.

Family could care less.

 

If I did do something no one would care.  The only reason I would be missed is because I support everyone.

 

But I hang in there and try to do what I am expected to do.

please get some therapy and maybe medication and work on yourself. You dont need to live like this. There is help available but only you can help yourself.
 
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October 16, 2008, 10:05 am PDT

god bless you

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My brother whom was not even a year older than I commiteed suicide on April 23, 1981 at 1am. I will never forget what I was doing and how it has shaped my life then and even today. He was my best friend and you can't ever get that back. My brother told 4 people the day he died that he wanted to. Since he was such a popular man with "everything" no-one believed him. I was at college and he would have never told me because I would have come home and stopped him. I can NOT let people say that the ones who say that they are going to kill themselves that they are only looking for attention. If they are lookiing for attention then something is wrong in their lived and they need it.

 

My life now will never be the same nor will my brothers or sisters. If you ever wanted to have a sisters or family members view on death. I could surely help you out. I feel very strongly about this subject so call me anytime!!

my teenager was planning suicide few months ago and thank god two of his friends took him seriously told me and even went to the hospital with me and him when he agreed to admitted in the psyche ward. Its been a long hard struggle trying to get him better but hes much much better today. I think its beautiful that you want to help people on here so much. I actually feel the same way. Ill keep you in my prayers.
 
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October 16, 2008, 10:07 am PDT

amen

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My friend committed  suicide 2 weeks ago.

I have never felt so much pain.

He did tell people he was going to kill himself but he never told me.

He was taking antidepressants.

I know he didnt realize the pain all of us would feel,and how many of us would have done ANYTHING

for him had he just said something. I didnt find out until he was gone that he was thinking of suicide.

Please think, there were people at the funeral from high school completely devastated.

He was 36.

Many people care who arent around every day.

I blame my self for being to busy to see something wasnt right.

I blame the people he talked to who did nothing.

Im going to have a hard time understanding how he could do this to us.

I know life is hard, but its hard for all of us and if you commit suicide you hurt alot of people.

 

 

 

I guess in their sickness they dont realize how it kills those who love them when they end their lives.
 
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October 16, 2008, 10:12 am PDT

My son and suicide.

I saw the show yesterday on suicide and felt the need to reach out for advise.  My son is 19 years old and is in the Marines.  On March 31, 2008, he was scheduled to deploy with his unit when he was in an accident on the base that put him in ICU for almost 2 weeks with a skull fracture that ultimately left him undeployable.  Since then he has been ridiculed by his superiors and fellow Marines as being a throw away Marine that was useless.  This sort of emotional torment has been hard on him as he is an emotional young man to begin with.  On top of all of that, we lost my Mom in April which was completely devastating for the whole family and my son took it extremely hard. He came to the funeral and did OK, but upon returning to his base he took up drinking.  Two weeks later we completely and unexpectedly lost my brother who meant the world to my kids and especially to my son who spent endless summers with him growing up.  Well, my son took that so hard that his first attempt to suicide was after receiving that news. He was caught by his roommate who ultimately saved his life.  However, as time goes by the ridicule continued and depression set in so bad that he was being medicated for I don't know how many things.  And this past weekend he was found unconscious in his barracks for attempting to OD.  He called and left a message on our answering machine Sunday night from the ER.  I finally got in touch with him this Tuesday and he doesn't even remember calling us.  He claims that he was not drinking and had felt an overwhelming amount of anxiety and the need to end it all.  And now the Marines are initiating the paperwork for his "other than honorable" discharge.   I am absolutely worried  sick about him.  I tried my best to give him comforting advise. I told him how much we all love him and want him back home. And how he can start his life over and yada yada.  And even though he was fine with that conversation and reassured me that he would not do anything else crazy and that he would hang in there and keep his faith strong, I still can't help but to be extremely worried.  The Marines are telling him it could take several weeks for all the paperwork to be finalized and his exit completed.

Somebody please tell me what to do?  I need reassurance that he is going to be OK in the next few weeks.  I just don't know what to do. And or where to begin when he gets home.  He is currently in Camp LeJeune, NC and we are in south Florida.

Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you, Robin (a worried sick Mom)

 
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October 16, 2008, 10:13 am PDT

finally we are talking about it

I watched Dr Phil and was in tears by first half hour. I lost my twin 4 yrs ago to suicide. There is no one to talk to about it. The pain and being left behind is some days to much to bear. I talked to my twin daily except the day she died. My husband always said we were joined at the hip! I struggle everyday from anger to deep sadness. I feel for the parents who were on show. The mom will always remember what she said the day her daughter died. She has no reason to feel bad her daughter knew you meant nothing by saying what you did. I almost went crazy the first year with the "what if" syndrome. I had no clue my twin was feeling like she did nor did anyone else. It totally blind sided me and I am lucky to still be alive and it is a struggle everyday.I will never be the same my life has changed forever. I will never find the happiness I use to know. Try as I might it never comes.I do not dwell on it like I did for 3 years. The pain of missing my other half is with me daily. Life has changed as I once knew it.
 
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