Message Boards

Topic : 07/31 The Bridge Controversy - Tragic Choice

Number of Replies: 320
New Messages This Week: 0
Last Reply On:
Created on : Friday, October 10, 2008, 02:51:02 pm
Author : DrPhilBoard1
(Original Air Date: 10/15/08) During high-stress times we all seek relief. But some people are unable to find an outlet for their pain, and they resort to the drastic act of suicide. Dr. Phil hosts an honest and open discussion about this serious topic in the hopes of saving lives. His first guest is Eric Steel, director of the controversial film The Bridge. The documentary showcases people taking their lives by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, CA. Is this a snuff film or does it raise awareness and create dialogue about this devastating epidemic? Then, meet a couple whose friend's last moments were captured in the documentary. You'll be surprised to hear how they feel about seeing his death on film. Next, did you know that more than half of American college students have considered suicide at some point in their lives? Casey, 17, was bound for college and a bright future, but cut her dreams short when she, too, jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. Her parents share their struggles, including why they blame themselves for her death. And, Dr. Thomas Joiner, psychology professor and author of Why People Die By Suicide, talks about a personal loss that inspired him to devote his professional life to suicide prevention. Find out what he says are the three common traits exhibited by some considering suicide. Plus, learn the critical warning signs to watch for that could be the difference between life and death. And, if you or someone you know is considering suicide, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at (800) 273-TALK. Join the discussion.

Find out what happened on the show.

As of January, 2009, this message board will become "Read Only" and will be closed to further posting. Please join the NEW Dr. Phil Community to continue your discussions, personalize your message board experience, start a blog and meet new friends.

User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
October 15, 2008, 7:49 am PDT

10/15 The Bridge Controversy - Tragic Choice

Quote From: rickw4821

This is coming from someone who is planning his death as we speak. Just throwing a phone number on the screen is your idea of helping someone? The main thing you did not cover was the fact that there is usually two or a very few things that suicidal people need to prevent their deed. One is to understand that there is an underlying or obvious depression already there and needs treatment. The other is either a one hundred foot black hole or a one hundred foot pilllow. This could refer to a job, love, etc or lack thereof. Those two are my black holes or pillows. It may be something else to someone else. I lost my job on May 16th and I have a health problem that has developed since. I already suffer from depression. So what is left? My unemployment will run out soon. My credit rating is over 800. I have isolated myself to start this process so that no one will notice.  What do I do? These so called experts never seem to have an "expert"

with them and that is someone who is sucidal.

Rick PLEASE call the phone number on your screen. That is the first step in finding more solutions to your problems. I know at this point in your life and depression a phone number seems pointless, but that phone number has helped many people just like you. What more do you have to loose? Give the phone number a try.

 
User Mood
Peaceful

Message Emote
sad
October 15, 2008, 8:00 am PDT

Today's show

Thank you for today's show.  My best friend of 20 plus years has tried suicide a couple of times.  The last time she was in the emergency room of the hospital and they would not help.  She yelled out "no one would care "IF" I killed myself.  Because she said "if" the hospital told her family she was not threat to herself or anyone else.  This show was very educational and I am thinking the hospitals and doctor need to be educated a little more.  After my friend took a whole bottle of aspirin the hospital finally helped her.   This really makes the hospital look bad.  
 
User Mood
Good

Message Emote
frustrated
October 15, 2008, 8:22 am PDT

10/15 The Bridge Controversy - Tragic Choice

you don't really know about people who want to die. sometimes it's a matter of trying to get help & no one pays any attention to the problem- just keeps referring you from one agency to another &  they keep telling you that you're in the wrong place until you just go out of your mind. Then you just think getting the help you need is too much trouble so just killing yourself is a whole lot easier!!!!!!!!!!!
 
User Mood
Depressed

Message Emote
frustrated
October 15, 2008, 8:30 am PDT

Missing from todays show

I would have liked to see someone on the show today who has tried to commit suicide instead of a bunch of relatively "healthy" people sitting around talking about it. I have attempted the "Big S" and I have tried to talk about my feelings afterward. I had a councilor tell me that felling suicidal is just a "cop-out". So why should i want to talk to ANYONE about my feelings?? How about a little more focus on the reasons why we feel it .... because it's very very real and just telling us that it's "irrational" doesn't do anything to ease the pain. That type of rhetoric only instills more guilt in an already rattled disposition. It is a physical and chemical imbalance and  should be treated with as much respect as we treat cancer, diabetes, heart disease, etc.
 
User Mood
Sad

Message Emote
sad
October 15, 2008, 8:54 am PDT

just another Jane Doe

 Staring  at this blank page for an hour now not knowing where to start or what to even say. A 1800 number to call that might give relief for a brief moment medication to just dope you up but the cause of the feeling to just end it all is always there. Unfortunately it all comes down to money or insurance and when you dont have it then there is no help. I came to the USA for a vacation to sort myself out after a bitter divorce losing everything after been made that I was worthless and more. Eventually met and married a wonderful man one would think great that I am lucky to have found someone and to start a new chapter in my life. But its not that easy its been 8 years and I live with what had happened and decision made that not only hurt me but hurt my children who I had lost to him. I have not seen them or any of my family in all those years. Its been a struggle financially and have not even started the process of my paperwork to stay here without a SSN one cannot do anything cant work cant drive cant even get insurance only alot of time to think ways to just wish this will all go away. I have no family or friends here who I can talk to. I just know today is not the right time I have unfinished business with my own children that I need to fix up first after that who knows. Right now i feel like a nobody sometimes i feel like just walking away with my passport and ending it all no one will know who I am who will care I;ll just be another Jane Doe.
 
User Mood
Worried

Message Emote
blank
October 15, 2008, 8:57 am PDT

I too feel guilt

I lost my daughter to suicide at the age of 23 three and one half years ago.  She had been diagnosed with bi-polar and borderline personality disorder and was hospitalized many times over a 10 year period either for attempting suicide or threatening to.  She succeeded when the community mental health people had her arrested at a mental facility when she was trying not to be put in a quite room and struggled to get loose and a EMT got hurt.  They put her in isolation in jail for her "crime" while she was waiting competency hearings.  On the 52nd day she hung herself.  I am sure the loneliness and isolation just got to the point where she could not stand it any longer.  She was suicidal, told the personnel that, yet was ignored.  I will never get over the guilt that I did not bail her out of jail.  Over a ten year period, we listened to dozens of counselors and psychiatrists and took their advise.  Most said she was just trying to get attention, but I knew it was more and that it was a neurological problem.  We tried as parents many times to get her in the proper treatment, but since she was on disability, no one wanted to pay the bill.  I regret not going into debt myself trying to solve the problems she faced.  We now have a son, age 25 who is suffering from depression.  We had him in treatment in FL where he lives for 2 1/2 months, he then lost his job and has been unemployed with no motivation to move forward for 4 months now.  He is out of money, we pay for his necessities but can't continue and we feel there is no place to turn.  I ask him if he is considering suicide, but he says no.  After being a part of a survivor;s of suicide  help group for 3 years,  I know there is always that possibility for him to as he becomes more depressed each day.  I just don't know where to turn anymore.  I wish Dr. Phil would have a program for us survivors and teach us how we can go on with our lives even with a new normal.  My son needs to learn how to begin his life again after losing his sister.  I feel stuck and unable to complete tasks at hand everyday.  Her suicde has hurt us all and even though I know she never meant to hurt us, it has changed our lives forever.
 

Message Emote
blank
October 15, 2008, 8:59 am PDT

10/15 The Bridge Controversy - Tragic Choice

I think this is truely tragic, when you can say you did all you could to help by calling the police any time you thought someone crossed the line on the bridge. I understand that there are reasons for documentaries like yours but, watching someone end their life is horrible. My brother committed suicide when he was 23, that was five years ago and the pain from that has not left me or my family. To see this on film for me is disturbing.

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
October 15, 2008, 9:10 am PDT

Don't give up...

Everyone has a different reason why they want to kill themselves.  When I think I have it bad I take the time to help someone in need.  I find then that I am not that bad off. or I think hey I'm not alone.  Talking to someone will help. 

 

I have to agree with getting someone on the show that is depressed and talk to them to find out what caused it and how to over come it.  If you can get someone on the show that can identify someone else that might be suffering then there would be a better chance for helping.

 
User Mood
Good

Message Emote
blank
October 15, 2008, 11:02 am PDT

Survivor Here

First and foremost I feel for anyone who has sunk into feeling so low and worthless. I can honestly say I KNOW how you feel. I attempted suicide by overdose about 3.5 years ago. I found my husband cheating and immediately dropped into depression...I was put on AD's which I ultimately used for m y attempt - I swallowed the ENTIRE bottle. As soon as I did it...I envisioned my 2 year old running to my casket shouting 'Mom - 'seepin'...I immedaitely ran out and aadvised those that were with me what I had done. The ambulance came, I was cooperative...I told them I don't want to die, I made a huge mistake. I was released after a few hours.

 

My attempt was during one of the lowest times in my life...I didn't think I was worth living. I didn't want to put my child through a divorce and actually thought it would be better for him to have 1 parent full-time then to share 2 part-time. I had lost all control and all rational thinking.

 

Depression is not something you can just 'pull yourself out of'. You NEED help - you NEED a support system and you NEED people to understand.

 

You may feel as though no one will 'notice' or no one will 'miss' you - but believe me they will. My attempt didn't win my husband back either - we divorced and he married the girl I found him with. I seen the turmoil that my sister and her family went through as I attempted this at her house....she was a wreck! My parents were emotional and my friends were devastated. You WILL be missed, people WILL notice!

 

I've had thoughts of it time and time again, I think we all do one time or another, but...I remind myself that I got through it once I can do it again....if that doesn't deter my mind...I think of my small child...running ot my casket thinking I'm taking a nap. Wanting mommy to get up and play - that alone, that's something I can't bear to put my child through.

 

Hang in there...there is help - find someone who can offer support and listen....I'll even lend you my ear/shoulder!

 
User Mood
Relaxed

Message Emote
blank
October 15, 2008, 12:14 pm PDT

BRILLIANT MOVIE i HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT

I saw this movie over a year ago when it first came out and thought it was brilliant.  This showed the Bridge authority that there was indeed a problem that they were ignoring.

 

Many of the families of the people that jumped wanted a barrier place on the bridge to prevent the HUGE numbers of suicides here each year but they were always turned down because...frankly...the brideg wouldn't look as pretty with it.

 

They talked about this in the film and even discussed a bit about the possibilty of an invisble barrier which was also turned down because of a cost issue.

 

Many of these people went to this particular bridge because of the romanticised notion of dying on the Golden Gate bridge.  There is another bridge nearby which would produce the same effect but people don't want to die on the lesser known bridge.

 

This movie does not glorify suicide, it brings the issue to light, gets people talking about it and has put pressure on California dn San Francisco to do their part in stopping this from happening.

 

The movie is a must see...if you know anyone who is considering suicide (even yourself) I suggest you see this film!

 
First | Prev | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | Next | Last