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Created on : Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:37:46 am
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(Original Air Date: 10/20/08) Sixty-five percent of American households report playing computer and video games, and surprisingly, the average player is 35 years old. Computer games are supposed to be fun, but when a hobby turns into an obsession, virtual fantasy worlds can ruin lives and wreck marriages. Juli says her 34-year-old husband, Fred, plays computer games all day and ignores his entire family. Fred admits to spending up 10 hours a day in a cyber world, but will he call it an addiction? Fred’s stepson, Brandon, thinks Fred is lazy and that his mom can do better. Then, Brad, 40, was so addicted to games that he spent up to 80 hours a week locked in the basement with his computer. Not only did he accumulate close to $24,000 of debt, his addiction nearly cost him his marriage and his life! Next, Liz found her 21-year-old son, Shawn, dead at his computer from a self-inflicted gun shot. She says that a role-playing game in the virtual world transformed her son from a vibrant young adult into a depressed introvert, which ultimately led to his suicide. Liz founded Online Gamers Anonymous to educate others about the potential dangers of obsessive gaming. Then, when Wendy married a video game designer, she literally took matters into her own hands and started playing herself.  Are you or is someone you love at risk for video game addiction? Log on to DrPhil.com for a checklist of signs!

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October 20, 2008, 5:36 pm PDT

10/20 Virtual Chaos

I am neither patronizing nor agreeing with either side in this argument but instead like to bring to light another problem. I believe that a show such as Dr. Phil would be more respectable if it presented two sides of a case and allowed the viewer to make a decision based on what they have seen, but instead I find this show to be quite often one sided and therefore bias. This gives birth to generations of people who do not think on their own and are instead told what to be thought. This unfortunately has always occurred in history and will surely continue in the future.  

 I beseech the followers of the Dr. Phil show to ask themselves: Is watching Dr. Phil for an hour a day not an addiction in itself?  

  

 
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October 20, 2008, 5:36 pm PDT

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I can't understand why people would do that to themselves or there families. I time my daughter everytime shes on the computer and shes only allowed learning games and only an hour at a time. I do not play games on the computer, because I feel that I as a parent, need to set a good example for my daughter and to teach her that she will not learn how the world works on the computer. She needs to interact with other children, play outside, and get the workout that she needs. My mother would never let us stay in the house. We would stay outside all day and FIND things to do! Parents today make things to easy for them. They use a TV, computer, or video games as a babysitter, so parents don't have to bothered by them. As far as if my husband were a gamer, I would throw the game or computer out the window. That way noone gets to play it. I don't care how much it costed, its not worth my family!!!

Are you saying gamers are lazy and fat? If so, Your wrong. Gaming promoted me to do the things that your daughter does. Its kind of like way back... When sesame park promoted you to go out and chill with friends.

 

But i guess its different for me, Im young.

 
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October 20, 2008, 5:40 pm PDT

Balance is key

I really did enjoy the show today and I think that the general message we should take away is BALANCE.

I can admit that I was addicted to video games when I was a kid.  Though, in those days video games helped me escape the real life problems I had.  Bullying, being picked on, and worse.  I used to be afraid of going to school everyday, when I was a kid.  So games, along with God, my family, and other things helped me get through life.  Then in high school games became an addiction.  However, that was because I had no idenity.  I was depressed a lot and so games helped me forget about my life.  I think that my addiction was brought on because of my social life as a kid, not having much of one.  When I got into college, I was free completely free from my former social problems and so I was on the journey of finding myself.  Once I began to accept my life and like who I truly was(thanks in part on Dr, Phil's book, "Self Matters"), my addiction went away.

 

I guess the point Im trying to make is that we have to make real life number one.  I still play video games, but I go to work and focus on building my career as a novelist.  Video games don't control me, because I have a clean grasp on reality and I love my real life.  Video games can fill a void in your life, but so can many other activites.  The goal should be to get rid of that void and not allow yourself to become addicted to whatever.

 

So, if you are addicted to playing video games and don't know how to get control back, ask yourself some questions about your real life.  You might not like your real life or not even like yourself.  I'd say read Dr. Phil's book, "Self Matters."  Becuase, if you don't like who you are or your life, then it could be a lack of self worth.

 

I'll stop with just asking that as a society, let's not start blaming video games.  Scapegoating won't solve the problem.  We need to take personal responsibility for our actions.  If you or someone you know has an addiction then you need to get help.  The help is there, you just have to be willing to make the tough choices to get it.  When I used to play World of Warcraft, my guildmates had a saying:  "Real life is greater then WoW."  Well, we used a > to say it, but you get the picture.  Being a responsible gamer means that you don't put games or anything above family and reality.

 
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October 20, 2008, 5:48 pm PDT

pointless reply xD

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There is nothing wrong with gaming at all i play world of warcraft all the time and i am a level 70 night elf druid on thorium bortherhood and in the game i would smoke any challengers
I play a lot and i can see why people think it is bad if you play and you dont have a job and youre married but lets face it
what the heck is a kid going to do everyday
there is nothing wrong with playing the world of warcraft its just like any other game!
if your kid was playing a game you liked you would let him/her play it
I am 14 yrs old and i am tired of my parents not respecting the fact that i love playing that game its not the only thing i like to do its just really important to me!!!!!!!!!!!!

WoW and other fantasy games are weird. (no affence)

 

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I understand your point about the whole your 14 thing, but soon enough, you woulnt be able to control your addiction (like me). You will try to stop, but then end up playing again, untill your like 35.

 

(ha, im only 2 years older then you, and i'm starting to sound like gaming runied my life)

 

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October 20, 2008, 6:00 pm PDT

Gamers

I am 17 yrs old i have the IQ of  156 and the simple fact is that the real problem is the fact that there is bad parents out there that allow there 8 yr old kids play  mature rated games which by law you must be 18 to buy so when all these little kids grow up and get there drivers licenses and decide i wanna try wat i did in that video game they will kill people.  i trully find video games mentaly stimulating because it gets your mind goin in ways that othere things cant do and i just be the fact that the parents get the computer in a open setting because there are alot of little kids swearing and using vulgar language.

 

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October 20, 2008, 6:03 pm PDT

Good Post

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I am Donna, and i play EverQuest and i tell you what  i think. I been playing for over 4 yrs. EQ helped me though a bad time in mylife. When i had no one to talk to i found one person that did, i meet him in real life after a yr and half, and now he is my light of my life, we got married June 7,2008. I am one of the Guild leaders of one of the Guilds along side him. We do have a life out side the game we work full time, we watch movies and take walks and still play EQ togather and when we have enough we get off and spend time , you got to know when to get off and walk away. In EQ i am Known as Mother of the Shield, and the ones in our guild see me that way. I tell you one of the things i done to help a young girl, she ask me something she didnt know how to handle it. She wanted to know what i though about it. This is what she asked me. She said she knew this guy he wanted to take her to a hotel and she realy didnt want to , she said he was trying to make her go, she has never been with a man. I told her, to follow her heart. if she didnt want too , dont have too,  just not ready, DONT!! it is up to you, you have your life for that you need to get your life the way you want it.. And if  he cant wait so be it , he not good enough for you.

 Then she told me ty Mom i tell him if he dont like it , GET LOST !!

 So you see in EQ , good things does happen!!!

 

 

 

       Good Post, Donna, you would be someone that I'd prefer as a guildmaster.

 

     To everyone else, the community is the basis of a players gameplay if your community is full of trainers, KSers, ninja looters, and so on; the gameplay is poorer than it would be with few to none players like Donna. I'll allow her to explain the EQ lingo. Sorry, Donna.

       I lucked out with my server choice on the PS2 version of Everquest; Mar's Fist did have quite a few people like Donna.

      To name a few: Ultimosou, Bissey/I believe Wifey, Evelyn, Caliestya, Igon, Monet, Zoinie, Carelene, Stebbons, Lazlo, Gigaka, Precious, and I know there's others that I forgot their names. (Watch someone's toon's name I forgot will notice this and tease me a bit about it, lol. Sorry my memory isn't perfect).

      When you play for a while, you get a pretty good idea on the players personality.

 

      While I'm thinking about it. Would you pickup a guy or gal at a bar, off the train, plane, or etc? If you answered yes, you would have committed picked up someone; you would know even less of than meeting someone from one of these games. It takes a long time to feel comfortable meeting someone from online. Think about it.

 
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October 20, 2008, 6:03 pm PDT

10/20 Virtual Chaos

Quote From: sdbmania

I really did enjoy the show today and I think that the general message we should take away is BALANCE.

I can admit that I was addicted to video games when I was a kid.  Though, in those days video games helped me escape the real life problems I had.  Bullying, being picked on, and worse.  I used to be afraid of going to school everyday, when I was a kid.  So games, along with God, my family, and other things helped me get through life.  Then in high school games became an addiction.  However, that was because I had no idenity.  I was depressed a lot and so games helped me forget about my life.  I think that my addiction was brought on because of my social life as a kid, not having much of one.  When I got into college, I was free completely free from my former social problems and so I was on the journey of finding myself.  Once I began to accept my life and like who I truly was(thanks in part on Dr, Phil's book, "Self Matters"), my addiction went away.

 

I guess the point Im trying to make is that we have to make real life number one.  I still play video games, but I go to work and focus on building my career as a novelist.  Video games don't control me, because I have a clean grasp on reality and I love my real life.  Video games can fill a void in your life, but so can many other activites.  The goal should be to get rid of that void and not allow yourself to become addicted to whatever.

 

So, if you are addicted to playing video games and don't know how to get control back, ask yourself some questions about your real life.  You might not like your real life or not even like yourself.  I'd say read Dr. Phil's book, "Self Matters."  Becuase, if you don't like who you are or your life, then it could be a lack of self worth.

 

I'll stop with just asking that as a society, let's not start blaming video games.  Scapegoating won't solve the problem.  We need to take personal responsibility for our actions.  If you or someone you know has an addiction then you need to get help.  The help is there, you just have to be willing to make the tough choices to get it.  When I used to play World of Warcraft, my guildmates had a saying:  "Real life is greater then WoW."  Well, we used a > to say it, but you get the picture.  Being a responsible gamer means that you don't put games or anything above family and reality.

JACKPOT. Very well written!
 
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October 20, 2008, 6:09 pm PDT

10/20 Virtual Chaos

Quote From: angel32402

I can't understand why people would do that to themselves or there families. I time my daughter everytime shes on the computer and shes only allowed learning games and only an hour at a time. I do not play games on the computer, because I feel that I as a parent, need to set a good example for my daughter and to teach her that she will not learn how the world works on the computer. She needs to interact with other children, play outside, and get the workout that she needs. My mother would never let us stay in the house. We would stay outside all day and FIND things to do! Parents today make things to easy for them. They use a TV, computer, or video games as a babysitter, so parents don't have to bothered by them. As far as if my husband were a gamer, I would throw the game or computer out the window. That way noone gets to play it. I don't care how much it costed, its not worth my family!!!
My mother would never let us stay in the house. We would stay outside all day and FIND things to do!
They use a TV, computer, or video games as a babysitter, so parents don't have to bothered by them.

Do you find anything in these two comments to be similar? I did. Your mother chucked you outside all day to fend for yourself, and "THEY" use computers and games for the same purpose. Seems neither side wants to be bothered.

My son has a gaming system, a T.V., and access to the family computer for games. When I say enough, it's enough. I have never had a problem setting limits or saying no. I think people run into problems when they are being lazy and let things go.  I think it's important to let children have fun, and do what other kids are doing. No one wants to be the dweeb that doesn't know what is going on in the latest game or T.V. show.  Learning games are alright, but regular games have a lot to teach as well. Patience, strategy, and problem solving are just a few.
 
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October 20, 2008, 6:10 pm PDT

Do something

You know the best advice I can give to a person(like me) that has a spouse that participates in constant (not controlled) but constant online gaming is to not wait around.  Go and do things that you want to do.  He'll never notice you are gone.  Have fun and do what ever it is that makes you happy, especially if you are not willing to leave him or her.  Their time passes by them so fast they really do not miss you or worry where you are.  Let them know too, you can do whatever you want cause they will be too consumed to realize anything else is happening around them.
 
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October 20, 2008, 6:19 pm PDT

Online addiction

I do research on various subjects in my free time.  One subject usually leads me to another.  I came across the incident of the boy whose mother found him dead in front of his computer screen.  There was more to that story that was left out.  It's a tragedy no matter what, but the boy was in love with a girl who played with him and he asked her to marry him.  She said no.  The game addiction didn't help, but it wasn't the cause of his death.
 
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