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Created on : Friday, October 17, 2008, 02:56:57 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/24/08) Ladies, what would you do if you had to return to the dating game in your 40s, 50s or even 60s? Dr. Phil’s guests point to a double standard between men and women. Men can date women young enough to be their daughters, while a middle-aged woman who dates younger men is sure to face criticism. Caroline is a 58-year-old grandmother who has been married three times and is still looking for her Prince Charming. She admits to traveling from Monaco to Amsterdam and throughout the States in search of love, often with younger men. Caroline says she even accepted a proposal from a man she met online -- a suitor she has never met in person! Her daughter, Anara, says the problem is not her mother’s age, but that her mom doesn’t act her age. Is Caroline just living life without limits, or is she her own worst enemy when it comes to meeting Mr. Right? Then, Dr. Phil talks to Patti Stanger, CEO of The Millionaire’s Club, an exclusive dating service that caters to wealthy men and women who are looking for love. Find out why Patti says Caroline is heading toward a life of loneliness, and learn her dating tips to increase your chances of finding a mate. And, Anna is only 30, but she says some men already think she’s too old to date! Her friend, Robyn, says Anna's independence turns some men off. Find out what happens when Dr. Phil cameras follow Anna for a night on the town. Plus, meet a divorced mom who says she’s been on the dating scene for 15 years and has yet to find a man her age who wants to commit.. Join the discussion.

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October 25, 2008, 7:52 pm PDT

10/24 Dating Double Standards

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You are 100% correct when you say that dating for older women is over rated.

Dating should be left to the young hot women and the older women should stay indoors and out of the public view.

Thank You Ms. Nova. I could not have said it better if I tried.

When I read your comment, I went to your profile.....it explains a whole lot!

 
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October 25, 2008, 8:45 pm PDT

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she shurd date guys her own age
Why?  Can you tell me why she should date guys her own age?  Is it because they are there?  Is it because they can't always get the 20 year old themselves?  What difference is it to you or to me if she dates someone younger as long as he is of legal age? 
 
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October 25, 2008, 10:02 pm PDT

10/24 Dating Double Standards

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It amazes me how some women become so desperate that they are literally willing to put their lives on the line by going on the Internet trolling for men....ANY man. Ladies, do you REALLY think some guy is going to fall in love with you in cyberspace and want to marry you without ever even having met you? If any guy gives you that line of horse crap,  you better run because there's something seriously wrong with him.....(AND with you if you're dumb enough to believe it!) 

 

Caroline not only puts her own life in danger, but drags her daughter along with her all over the world. Going to other countries where you could disappear without a trace and no one would care is insane! She needs to take some of that money she wastes on running all over and use it for some intensive therapy! I could not believe some of the ridiculous things that came out of her mouth....total pretzel logic!

 

As for Patti and her Millionaires Club.....isn't what she's teaching these dingbat women just another euphemism for prostitution?  


...Ladies, do you REALLY think some guy is going to fall in love with you in cyberspace and want to marry you without ever even having met you? If any guy gives you that line of horse crap,  you better run because there's something seriously wrong with him.....(AND with you if you're dumb enough to believe it!)
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My guy gave me that line of horse crap, and I was dumb enough to believe it... we've been happily together for almost 10 years and married for four. ;-)  Sometimes planets align, energies converge, and magic happens.


 
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October 25, 2008, 10:08 pm PDT

dating double standards

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I am 40 years old. And while it is a little early to call her my Girlfriend, I have none the less been seeing a woman who celebrated her 25th birthday a couple weeks ago. I just wanted this on the table before I launch into what will prove to be a long posting.

I say pride and my head held high that I have been seeking out younger women to date and have relationships with. There are many reasons I and other Men my age or older look for young women 18 and older. And one of the reasons for dating young women that is rarely espoused is the LACK OF DRAMA in a young woman's life! When a woman is 21 her education and her shoes matching her outfit before a night of drinking and hot sex is what preoccupies her young mind. When a woman is 31 getting a sitter for her kid(s) dealing with her ex-husband and going to work top her lists of drama. The older a woman gets the more baggage she carries with her. Thus we 40+ Men prefer the younger women's idea of drama. It is easier to deal with and the problems do not become ours.

Another reason I prefer to date women half my age is their lack of children. Now god knows there are plenty of young women out there with a f_ck trophy in tow and I want nothing to do with them. However statistically speaking, the older woman gets, the more likely she is to have kids. I do not have kids, and I will never have kids. I had the big snip in 2002 so I would be assured of never having any rug rats. Thus not wanting my own kids, I sure as heck do not want to be involved with anyone else's! I do not want to have to deal with an ex-husband coming over to pick the brats up on Friday and dropping them off on Sunday and all of that emotional garbage! I want a young woman who is free and easy!

This leads me to my next reason for only dating women who regard the presidency of Ronald Reagan as ancient history, they have not been hurt so much or so often they become bitter. The older a woman gets the more she is dumped, or hurt, or abused, or whatever you chicks have to complain about Men. I enjoy the company of women who still have some of their innocence and naivety in tact. They may be cautious about Men, but by and large they are not BITTER about Men. A dozen roses can be used perfectly to illustrate this point. If you give a 20 year old woman a dozen roses she will see them, smell them and be grateful to receive a nice gift. If you give a dozen roses to a 40 year old woman, she will see them, smell them and wonder what in the hell the Man did that prompted him to give her roses. Now you are starting to understand.

Yet another reason I only date young women is physical appearance. I am sorry ladies but women are not like a fine wine only getting better with age. Women are in fact like milk. The older they get the more sour they become and eventually get chunky. Young women are better looking then older women. Their boobs are firmer, their legs are leaner, their hair is shinier, their skin is softer, I could go on and on . And why would I want to look at a 40 year old woman when I can look at, play with and enjoy a 20 year old body? I know this upsets many of you women but I don't care. I am only being honest when I tell you that nipples are supposed to point to the wall, not to the floor.

There are some who would say that older women have more experience then younger women, especially when it comes to intimate times. And this is very true. But younger women do not have bad habits to break. A young woman can be molded into a wonderful lover. Besides, a young hot body feels nice to the touch and inflates my ego, which goes a long way in giving me satisfaction.


Now before you old crows click on the response link to go and ask me why some young woman would want to date an old man like me, let me cut you all off at the pass and answer that question with one word... M O N E Y ! ! !

I will avoid giving you all a lesson in the anthropology of western civilization, but I will briefly tell you that western Males are attracted to women with reproductive abilities and can nurture off spring while western females are attracted to Males they perceive as being able to provide food and shelter for themselves and their off spring. To put it in more simplistic terms, Men are attracted to young hot bodies and women are attracted to money, power and fame. If you doubt this, ask yourself when the last time you saw a Man who made minimum wage being given the title of "Most Eligible Bachelor" I am not super rich, but I do make six figures and women are drawn to that in much the same way flies are attracted to a freshly dropped pile of manure. I do not spend a lot of money on women. But I do let them try to convince me to do so. ; ) I am not the best looking Man on the block I will admit. But women are not attracted to MY face. No they are attracted to the face of Benjamin Franklin! And the more portraits of him I have in my wallet the more attracted women are to me. (I am also very careful to NEVER let a woman know about my vasectomy. And I enjoy the ride as some of them trying to trap me into Fatherhood. But that is a topic for another thread)

Now I know in the grand scheme of things women are attracted to more then money. And why younger women are attracted to older Men is a very individualistic and personal thing. And I am quite content with my 25 year old would be girlfriend. And I assure you all, that I will date 40 year old women.... When I am 65!

hmm...you stated that women are not like fine wine..getting better with age.  Instead, are you inferring that you are like fine wine getting better with age? If so, hate to tell ya that not all wines turn get better with age...they just might turn out to be "ripple" or "hooch", or even acetic acid (vinegar!)

 

Oh, and by the way, you also stated that nipples should point to the wall and not the floor.  Well, the same thing can be said about, er, the male organ. Men get older too...it's the law of the universe.

 
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October 25, 2008, 10:24 pm PDT

romano, just be you

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Reading this segment promo, makes me worry about my relationship. I am 47 he is 67. I have never been married, he has been married twice before. We've gone out once and I am feeling anxious about this. I feel like I am dating out of my league but I don't exactly have men my age beatting down the door for me. On our 'date' he tells me he thougth I was in my 30's. So I am wondering if he asked me out because he thought it would look good on his belt to have a much younger woman or if he really likes me for me. I am not sure what I feel for him. This is the first date I have had in years and I am clueless. My sister asked me how was my date with grandpa, so, i am not sure this is a great idea. - ramona
Ramona i think you just need to relax and let the magic that got you to be with him take you where ever it wants to. I am 30 and my hubby is 57. he loves me better than all the sexiest and most handsome young men i have ever been with. He may have been married twice all ready but you do not know for sure it was his mistake that the marriages did not work. Remember life is what you make it to be, speak to him about the age issue and rember age is nothing but a number as our spirits do not get old, enjoy him while it lasts. nothing stays for ever. 
 
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October 25, 2008, 10:30 pm PDT

you are dead on correct

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ok here it goes.  I watched Friday show Oct.24 2008 and i disagree.  I think age is just a number i have been dating men around my age which is 36 ive dated men 35 to 42 and i have to say ive never been treated worse by guys my age and i put up with it and was so misurable its just makes me sick.  I took a break from the dating seen for about 1 year and guess what happened i met a man 19 years older than me and i have never been so happy in all my life he actually treats me like a gueen i dont think its because im  pretty and young we both clicked the minute we looked onto each others eyes.  The chemistry was there from day 1 and now im proud to say we have been together for 1 year on October 19th and i moved in with him around the first of Dec 2007 and im proud to say weve n ever had a fight or disagreement not 1.  He gave me a promise ring for our 1 year anniversary and we will be together for ever.  I think alot of women just try to hard when trying to find a man.  This is my own opinion just relax and not put on a big show just be youself and dont try so hard and love will find you too.  Age and looks arent not everything.  Treat  them how you would like them to treat you. 
girl you so right. i wish people always remembered that to find happiness,  love has to find them and not the other way round. 
 
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October 25, 2008, 10:42 pm PDT

lets stay away from the very young

wish we could all rememeber that having a double standard is not a new thing, it has been there but the old people were avoiding making it an issue coz it would have confused a lot of people. women we do not have to do all that men do. we grew up knowing we are better than men, did we not? and that we have to let boys be boys, lately i am not seeing that. what men do with our teen daughters is their business as most daughters knows is wrong and they doing it it coz it feels good and we would be able to date young men coz most women give them money and gifts. why not say we shall start at the age of 30, they still young enough or aren't they? 

 
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October 25, 2008, 10:49 pm PDT

hell no, not 20 year olds pls.

i am not confused as i never wanted to come out and tell people what to do. I would hate any older woman who would be dating my 20 year old brother. woul you not hate them too if you found out that your  niece, son, step son, adopted son, neighbours son or any 20 year old son you know is dating an older woman? immagine if this son was yours, 20 he is still a baby. DR PHIL PLEASE WRITE US A BOOK ABOUT WHAT  AGE WOMEN SHOULD START LOOKING? I am not  saying stop it all i am saying is please re-think through.
 
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October 26, 2008, 9:24 am PDT

Thank you from Mauve girl

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hmm...you stated that women are not like fine wine..getting better with age.  Instead, are you inferring that you are like fine wine getting better with age? If so, hate to tell ya that not all wines turn get better with age...they just might turn out to be "ripple" or "hooch", or even acetic acid (vinegar!)

 

Oh, and by the way, you also stated that nipples should point to the wall and not the floor.  Well, the same thing can be said about, er, the male organ. Men get older too...it's the law of the universe.

Thank you for saying this, its so obvious! I was thinking the same thing. Wonder what he looks like? Is he perfect like he acts?
 
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October 26, 2008, 9:25 am PDT

10/24 Dating Double Standards

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...Ladies, do you REALLY think some guy is going to fall in love with you in cyberspace and want to marry you without ever even having met you? If any guy gives you that line of horse crap,  you better run because there's something seriously wrong with him.....(AND with you if you're dumb enough to believe it!)
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My guy gave me that line of horse crap, and I was dumb enough to believe it... we've been happily together for almost 10 years and married for four. ;-)  Sometimes planets align, energies converge, and magic happens.


Well, I'm truly happy for you.....but, you DO know you're the exception, right?

 

Not something I'd recommend.

 
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