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Topic : 10/29 Gender Confused Children

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Dr. Phil tackles the sensitive topic of children who identify more with the opposite sex. What do you do if your son wants to wear dresses and play with dolls? Or if your daughter tells you she wants to be a boy? Should parents chock it up to being a phase that their children will grow out of, or should they intervene right away? Meet Melissa and Tim, whose 8-year-old son declared himself to be a girl when he was just 3 years old. Now, they allow their child to live as a girl and wonder if and when they should begin hormone therapy. Then, when Mary’s son was 8, he told her he felt like a girl, and Mary allowed him to experiment with dressing as a female. Now a teenager, her son is more comfortable living as a male -- but Mary wonders if she caused his confusion. Joining the discussion are experts with differing points of view: Dr. Dan Siegel, professor and clinical psychiatrist at UCLA School of Medicine, and Glenn Stanton, author and research fellow with the organization Focus on the Family. Is gender identity something we’re born with, or is it influenced by parents and environment? Don’t miss this heated discussion, then talk about the show here..

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October 29, 2008, 1:10 pm PDT

10/29 Gender Confused Children

Parents, parents, parents.  That's all I have to say.  Parents influence their child when they are not even in their child's presence.  I don't know what's going on in this world but some parents seem to be letting their children run their lives.  It seems as if the first couple on today's show, were letting that child decide everything for himself at such a young age.  Three year olds can make those big decisions?  Most three year olds can't even decide what to have to drink sometimes!! C'mon on people, open your eyes.  Also, God doesn't make mistakes.  God is perfect, his love is perfect.  And if these people would look to him and ask for His guidance, He will get them through it. 
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:13 pm PDT

are you sreious?

I am startled to see that people would make the mistake of letting a 3 yeay old make a life changing decision for themselves. That is to say that I am a FIRM believer that GOD DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES YOU  ARE BORN THE WAY YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE...EITHER BOY OR GIRL THERE IS NO MIDDLE.

and no I am not trying to throw my religous beliefs on anyone but lets look at this ....if the same three year old came and said "I am going to drive the car." and was passionate about driving the car and became depressed if they were unable to operate the car...would you let them? If the child came and said "I don't like my feet I want to have them sugically changed...and was fervent about the dislike of the their feet so much so that they started to injur themselves do you go get surgery? the sim-ple answer is NO they are children...you make the rules they follow them...and that is the long and short of it...no I have never had to deal with this situation directly but I am guided by my bible which says that God knew us before we knew us so therefore no mistake was made, it is simply a matter of a impetious childs desire to have their whims met by their parents.

 

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October 29, 2008, 1:15 pm PDT

loving your children

I just dont understand how the second set of parents state that they would not buy their sons anything to play with if they wanted to play with dolls. This makes no sense to me; I am a lesbian, and if my mom had said I could not be the way I was born, I would have hated and resented her. These children, these people, are born feeling male or female. If your child comes to you and tells you who they are and how they feel, how can you say no to that? How can you not love your children, the people you brought into the world, enough to let them be who they are? I do believe that a person should have to wait until they are a legal adult to begin taking hormones, but Ialso believe that not accepting your children will only lead to pain for them as well as their parents. And towards the God comment, I just want to put out there that God says in The Bible that all are loved. Maybe these parents should stop trying to put their children in a box and start listening and loving their children for who they are.

I also just want to state that I am truly proud and moved to tears by the first parents and the mother who supports their children. I have seen children who are not supported and the consequences that entails, whether it be drugs, running away from home, never speaking to their family members again, or even suicide. These parents are the definition of Godly parents, and their children will love them because they were respected and loved back, not shunned or ridiculed.

Thank you so much for having this show, Dr. Phil! It is an issue that should be addressed more, and it took courage to even take this step of having a show about it.

 
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October 29, 2008, 1:15 pm PDT

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I am still irritated with my parents for not socializing a shy girl through her shyness.  It took me years to learn how to be comfortable talking to people and being in large groups.   A parents job is to show children how to get through this world in the context in which they live.  Mary seems to be expressing a psychological brand of Munchausen's by proxy.  She seems to need to have a "special" child, a child experiencing extremes, one in which she can be the only who really understands her childs pain and who is the only one her child can ever come to.  And she ensures this emotional connection by making the childs condition worse. 

 

Is this so different than parents who insist their children have learning disorders to get special treatment from schools? Is this really so different from the children you see on the "nanny" shows whose parents are so devoid of the ability to say no and set boundaries or posess the ability to look beyond there own needs to enagage and teach their children how to behave properly, that their children manipulate, scream express violence in order to maintain their control over their parents?

 

These children need guidance, not indulgence and these parents need to investigate what emotional needs of theirs are being met in these circumstances

 
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October 29, 2008, 1:15 pm PDT

i was one

You know what?  Growning up, well i still am growing up, BUT, i wanted to be a boy.  I would always play with boy toys, i dressed like a boy, and i wanted to grow boy genetals.  My parents allowed my to plays with boy toys (my trucks and cars), i could wear my boy/baggy clothes but my parents wouldn't allow me to wear them all the time, and they would not feed my want to become a boy.  They raised me like a girl.  They would make me wear dresses, they would make me at least talk to girls, and they made sure that all the colors in my life were pink.  I  was a girl that wanted to be a boy.  I don't know why i did, i just did.  Looking back on it.  I am glad that my parents would not totally give into my want to being a boy.  Although i still act like a boy i have no intension of becoming a boy or being gay.  I love being a girl, but i don't have to embrace my femaninity like some girls do.  I don't have to wear pink all the time, i don't have to paint my nails, and i don't have to like shopping.  I am who i am, and if i like playing football in the mud, if i like playing and talking to guys more than girls, whatever, I don't want to BE a boy anymore i'm over that, but that doesn't mean that i have to act like a stereotypical girl.
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:15 pm PDT

God doesnt make mistakes, People make mistakes

I find this a disturbing topic. You can,t change the minds of these parents because their minds are already made up. I have a four year old son who wants to be the pink power ranger for Halloween but as a parent it is my job to let him know that he can,t be the pink one and why. So many people look for ways to justify there lack of dealing with issues head on. I was a drug addict and a convicted felon but that is not who I am today because I dealt with the problem head on and that problem was me. Everybody is dealt a hand of cards in life, it is up to them how they play that hand good or bad. God doesnt make mistakes, we make them all by ourselves.
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:15 pm PDT

10/29 Gender Confused Children

This board has really made me angry.  Although I dont have any personal experience with anyone who is TG, I cannot image that anyone can be so ignorant in saying that people who are TG or even gay make the choice to be so.  The couple who said on the show that "God doesnt make mistakes" are so ridiculous!  A person who is TG or gay is not a mistake!!!!  Maybe if this country wasnt so religious-crazy there wouldnt be so much discrimination!!! 
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:16 pm PDT

Concerned friend

 
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October 29, 2008, 1:17 pm PDT

my own opinion.

I want to start by saying I am a Christian but I also am a teenager. I strongly believe and KNOW that God made no mistakes with us. He created us perfectly and when Adam and Eve sinned in the garden that's when sin came into the whole world. People were made as a specific gender and it is, I agree their choice to change, but it is a sin. I don't agree with the fact that people say to let their child make their own decisions. It is the parent's job to raise the child and to make the decisions for them until; they reach an appropriate age or are mature enough to start making their own decisions. It is also the parent's responsibility to choose what the child can wear, what they can play with, or what they watch that may influence them. Our world is filled with so much junk and such a bad influence no wonder we have these problems! It's time for the parent's to take a stand and be parent's and not just let the child do whatever!
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:19 pm PDT

another thing

I do not agree with the hormone enhancement.  As the parents of that boy ould see that it's possible to grow out of it.  As long as you don't feed their want to be a different gender.

 

 
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