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Topic : 10/29 Gender Confused Children

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Created on : Friday, October 24, 2008, 02:51:47 pm
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Dr. Phil tackles the sensitive topic of children who identify more with the opposite sex. What do you do if your son wants to wear dresses and play with dolls? Or if your daughter tells you she wants to be a boy? Should parents chock it up to being a phase that their children will grow out of, or should they intervene right away? Meet Melissa and Tim, whose 8-year-old son declared himself to be a girl when he was just 3 years old. Now, they allow their child to live as a girl and wonder if and when they should begin hormone therapy. Then, when Mary’s son was 8, he told her he felt like a girl, and Mary allowed him to experiment with dressing as a female. Now a teenager, her son is more comfortable living as a male -- but Mary wonders if she caused his confusion. Joining the discussion are experts with differing points of view: Dr. Dan Siegel, professor and clinical psychiatrist at UCLA School of Medicine, and Glenn Stanton, author and research fellow with the organization Focus on the Family. Is gender identity something we’re born with, or is it influenced by parents and environment? Don’t miss this heated discussion, then talk about the show here..

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October 29, 2008, 3:11 pm PDT

Gender Confused Children

Hey !

 

I am 19 now, and couldn't be girlier. However, when I was little and growing up I spent a lot of time with my dad and LOVED to play with miny cars, and lego stuff. I watched batman, power rangers, ninja turtles, and all those boy things. I used to wear boyish clothes to, just because I was a really active kid.

 

My dad told me he used to play with a tea sets when he was little because his mom (my grandma) used to have afternoon tea with her friends.

 

It's normal to do the opposite of the stereotype little boys and girls are given.

 

The parents of the child on the show are really brainwashing their kid, with big adult terms. That child lost her innocents with knowing terms such as "transgender." I feel really bad for that child. That child isn't understanding exactly what he is feeling, because he is speaking through his mother.

 

All kids are gender confused. This should really only be discussed when the child is a preteen.

 
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October 29, 2008, 3:12 pm PDT

Gender confused

I believe that there are kids out there that feel they are the wrong sex. I agree with the Dr. from the show. However, the parents should not start hormones for their 8 year old son. Wait until he is older and is sure that this is what he/she wants. THat child may change his/her mind.
 

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October 29, 2008, 3:13 pm PDT

Missing the point

The mother was mistaken when she said "God made a mistake". God does not and cannot make a mistake because He is God and as such is perfect in every way. Having said that, we live in a fallen world.  Nothing and no one is perfect on this earth.  I have compassion for what this family is going thru. I have a niece who is now a teen but has always acted and dressed like a boy--even when she was quite young (as early as 4 years old). In no way could you ever, ever make her wear a dress if your life depended upon it. I honestly believe she was born that way and that is the way she is wired. As her aunt, in my heart, I believe I am called to love her unconditionally (albeit I am imperfect so I know I can't do that perfectly) and to accept her the way she was born. My heart truly goes out to all parents who struggle with this issue with their child. This is not a lifestyle choice for these kids.....for most of them, it is a matter of how they are wired internally. The person from Focus on the Family, I am sure, believes it is a lifestyle choice in all cases. I don't believe that to be true and I believe scripture is on my side to back that up.
 
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October 29, 2008, 3:13 pm PDT

What Happens when they grow up?

I would like to point out the these gender confused children who end up continuing this behavior will never be allowed in the wrong restrooms as adults. How will they find employment? Which college dorm will they live in. Which locker room will they change clothes in? Finally the big question.  What if these kids commit a crime later in life? I mean even if it was a drunk driving charge, or worse a violent charge and they are sentenced to prison. Is there any court that will allow a gender confused person to be housed in a jail cell with girls just because their parents allowed them to pretend to be a girl. Because they as children decided they like being a girl? Or will they be jailed with those of the same physical genders. They will be housed with men because they are men regardless of what their parents allowed them to choose as a small child. This issue is HUGE and really needs to be looked at in the LONG term not just the short term.
 
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October 29, 2008, 3:13 pm PDT

furious

dr. phil i have grown up as a transgendered all my life. i was born a girl but always thought i should have been a boy and still feel that way. i consider myself a man. my genitilia may be female but that is it. i have more male hormones that i do female. i also hated it when my mother tried to make me be a girl. i thought about suicide and even tried . thank god i did not succeed. i have to say the western mentality in our world sucks. who says a boy must dress a certain way or a girl should dress a certain way. we should be teaching our children that we are all of the human race and to not see colors, race, style, or anything for that matter . what we should be teaching is a love for all living things. since when did we become omnipotent and think that because someone or something is different that it is wrong. are we still living in the cave man days. i pray we have come farther than that but the world seems to be proving me wrong.

 
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October 29, 2008, 3:14 pm PDT

The last couple

Alright,
this last couple is a perfect example of how religion can and does brainwash you.
We derived from APES we have a 2% genetic difference! Not some guy and some girl somewhere after there was light, blah blah. I believe in a higher power for sure, obviously there is something greater that us, however if they could see all these idiots that believe lies made in order to control society by government.....he would surely be upset!
Idiots!!
 
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October 29, 2008, 3:14 pm PDT

Pay Attention

I don't think some of you were listening carefully. The mother of the 8-year-old boy said that she would consider the hormone therapy but not until the child was a teenager. I think society worries about things that are really of no concern to them. If that baby feels like he is a girl, then parents should support him. Think about it...how would a 3-year-old know to go and tell his father that he wants to be a girl if he really didn't feel like he was different? There are hungry people in this world, homeless people, a war...and we are worried about how parents choose to raise and support their children? If the parents were on the show saying that they are disowning the child because of his feelings, would we be supporting the parents or harping on how they suck for disowning an 8-year-old? Does this society not have anything else to worry about?
 
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October 29, 2008, 3:16 pm PDT

and an amen to you

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The child didn't have gender confusion.  SHE knows who SHE is.  So a child with a physical birth defect that is evident at birth, like cleft palate for example should just STAY that way because they were born that way?  The child should be doomed to a life of having trouble eating, speaking, being made fun of every day because they were born that way??? Of course not, you would probably take up a church collection to help the parents PAY for the corrective surgery, and be empathetic to the parents and child for what they are going through.  You would pray with them while the child was in surgery that God would grant a speedy recovery, you would probably hold the childs' hand, and say a little prayer before you left the hospital. I got news for you, gender dysphoria is no different, you just can't SEE it at birth!  A lot of these kids grow up feeling alone and scared, afraid to tell anyone, most die because they just cannot live in that level of stress daily anymore.  Those who do live and have surgery risk losing everything in their lives.  Many are no longer welcome at their church, or their family's home, and lose friends.  There are no fund raisers for money for surgery (which is needed since insurance DOES NOT cover any expenses), no one waiting in the waiting room, no clergy holding their hands, no prayers for health and a speedy recovery.  Some of us are lucky enough to have ONE person who loves us, and pray for us and hold our hand.  If you remember NOTHING else I've said, remember that NO ONE chooses this path.  It is not a choice.

well said, it is staggering that so many are still so ignorant about gay, bi, transgender, etc
 
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October 29, 2008, 3:16 pm PDT

very troubled

Our time on this earth is so limited.  Is it wise to try and use that time trying to undo and "fix" everything that God has done. The man that said God dosn't make mistakes said exactly what I was wishing I could say if I was there.No parent wants to see there child struggling with anything in there life but changing something like their gender is definately not the answer. We do not let children make decisions as important as that. We are their parents and we should be the ones to research and figure out what to do for them when they are troubled. Bring God into their lives and let Him be the one to guide you and your child in the right direction. I know as a mother that would break my heart to know my child was hurting over such a thing but letting them change who they are and who they are supposed to become is so NOT the answer!!!
 
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October 29, 2008, 3:17 pm PDT

Believe

Hello, I'm new to this whole entire thing. To be honest I don't exactly watch the doctor Phil show unless my mother is home. HOwever today's topic really got to me. Due to the fact I am indeed a transgender. I was born female alas deep down I always believed I was a male, I played with boy toys, hung out with boys, got right down and dirty in mud, and if playing pretend games I always ALWAYS took on the male role. And now today I am currently in the process of becoming a male. Now I just want parents to know, the worst thing you can POSSIBLY do is to ignore it, call them names, abuse them with words...because I had parents like that growing up and they did everything you could possibly imagin, I was called names, I was phyiscally abused, and during the time you are trying to feel slighly normal even though you know you're not it just brings you down that much more. You feel like your own parents don't even love you. And just because the bible says it's wrong...it's wrong. How can anyone judge on those just because they don't understand it. Honestly I would love! to see those who do think the whole situation is wrong by dressing them up in the opsite clothing and have them go out into the world. When deep down they know they arn't that gender. People don't know how hard it actually is to be in this situation it's not like one day I woke up and said HEY! mom, dad I wanna be a boy...it's not like that! It's all mental, and how your own heart feels. I believe blaming God is wrong because God has nothing to do with this. It's what happens during delvopment in the woman's body. 

 

Thank you for listening, and touching this topic.

 

All the love Damon.

 
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