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Dr. Phil tackles the sensitive topic of children who identify more with the opposite sex. What do you do if your son wants to wear dresses and play with dolls? Or if your daughter tells you she wants to be a boy? Should parents chock it up to being a phase that their children will grow out of, or should they intervene right away? Meet Melissa and Tim, whose 8-year-old son declared himself to be a girl when he was just 3 years old. Now, they allow their child to live as a girl and wonder if and when they should begin hormone therapy. Then, when Mary’s son was 8, he told her he felt like a girl, and Mary allowed him to experiment with dressing as a female. Now a teenager, her son is more comfortable living as a male -- but Mary wonders if she caused his confusion. Joining the discussion are experts with differing points of view: Dr. Dan Siegel, professor and clinical psychiatrist at UCLA School of Medicine, and Glenn Stanton, author and research fellow with the organization Focus on the Family. Is gender identity something we’re born with, or is it influenced by parents and environment? Don’t miss this heated discussion, then talk about the show here..

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January 13, 2009, 12:32 pm PST

Accept your child for who they are!!!

I think that if a child and or a adults think they should be a different sex and plays with the opposite sex's toys. There is no problem with that. I think that the children are just trying to find themselves, and they should allow to do so. As a Mother or a Father you gave that child life and you are here to raise them and support them. Let me ask you something, are they harming anyone? if No then it shouldn't be a problem. I think the child shouldn't be aloud to change gender until over the age of 18 where their mind is more set on there decision just like getting a tattoo. Tattoos last forever and it shows so does an sex change. No 4 year old 13 year old has their minds made up for the rest of their lives give them time to figure it out, support them and help them make the right decision without discrimination.
 
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January 13, 2009, 12:39 pm PST

hey Dr. Phil!

I absolutely disagree with the doctors who say that the parents are at fault. When one of the doctors said that they run a clinic that changes children and makes 'normal'. I completely disagree with them! You can NOT prevent children from being homosexual or being gender confused. Being closer to one parent or the other is normal and would have no effect on them being homosexual or confused. I think the mother you have on this show is amazing and she has a good head on her shoulders and I applaud her for what she is doing. She presents as a very loving mother and she holds her own very well. I hope that you will not have those ridiculous 'doctors' on your show if they can not even try to understand where people are comming from.

 

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January 13, 2009, 12:49 pm PST

10/29 Gender Confused Children

Please, leave the Focus on the Family Christian Cult off of your show Dr. Phil.  I am sick to death of the Christian Right being allowed to have a voice in American Society.  I'm 100% behind this mum and what she has done by loving her child as God made him as gay, bi-sexual, transgendered etc.  To these crazy Christians it is a Biblical issue.  For those of us who see the Bible as a book only no different than any other, and these lunatic Christians who see the Bible as "God's Holy Word" when it is just another book, that is at the heart of the matter here.  God made this child perfect as he/she is and why do these Christian fanatics have to impose their beliefs on the rest of us?  Cult is a cult whether Christian or not either way it is madness.  Human Sexuality is completely healthy and natural. If Christian conservatives want to raise their children under false beliefs of their religion that is their lawful right. However how dare they push their bogus beliefs which are completely unfounded on the rest of us! 

Thank-you for at least having the voice of reason/sociological study on the other side of the sofa.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, transgendered etc all fall within the healthy range of human sexuality.  Human beings are the only animal species that wrestles with this and I think it is all because of religion, how stupid. : (!!

 
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January 13, 2009, 12:50 pm PST

From the Eyes of a former 'Transgendered Child'

I honestly feel a little sick to my stomach when I watch this, and see how the mother talks about how her son has died.

My condition is a little hard to explain, and even harder to understand, but it caused me a lot of pain as I was growing up; and I feel a lot more for the children caught up in this than I do for the parents of this child.  So many of the parents act like there is something wrong with their child, and think that a condition like this needs to be hid away like their family's 'dirty little secret.'  I believe the parents that do this are only thinking of themselves, and how this child is going to reflect on themselves.  Do they ever stop to think about what kind of effect this has on their child?

For as long as I can remember, I wanted to be a boy.  Part of it could have been that my mother was a single mother, so I was primarily raised by my brother, and most of the clothing I wore was hand-me-downs from my brother.  I don't know.  I just know that my sister was raised the same way, and she turned out normal.  At the age of 8, my mother re-married.  He is a wonderful man, and he took me hunting with him, and I became much more like a son rather than a daughter.

When I was around 11 or 12, I started talking seriously about wanting to be a man.  It was then that my parents started to realize that it wasn't just a phase.  My father stopped taking me hunting, all my toy trucks were taken away and replaced with Barbie dolls, and all my t-shirts were replaced with blouses.  I was now being forced to cook and clean instead of hunting and helping my dad with bodywork on the cars.  I became miserable.

Throughout highschool, I remained a girl.  Homosexuals were not tolerated at my school, and one boy had been sent to hospital more than once, until his whole family moved.  I did not think that they would accept a transgender any more readily.  I always got along with the men real well, but if only they knew why....  The girls hated me for being chummy with the boys, and so I became very vindictive of girls, who to me seemed to be very manipulative and underhanded.  Saying one thing to your face, and a different thing to your back.

After highschool, I joined the Army.  Again, I was made very aware of how much I wanted to be a male.  The military is very gender-oriented.  Females are not allowed to go into Ranger school or be out there on the front lines.  I was also in a section of the Army where the males outnumbered the females at about 50-1.  I was the only female in my platoon, which contained a bit over 50 soldiers.  Because of my gender, I was treated differently.  The guys joked that I had a penis, but in their eyes, I was still female.

I am now married and I have an 18-month old daughter, but I still am not satisfied with my gender.  Under any other circumstances I'd be perfectly happy, but growing up being forced into a gender-role that did not suit me has left me scarred.  I am frequently depressed, and I suffer from a severe case of disassociation disorder.  When I suffer a particularily hard emotional blow, I have episodes, which I have come to call blackouts.  I do stuff, but I am not aware of it.  I start somewhere, then end up somewhere else without knowing how I got there.  Think Butterfly Effect.  I have gone to psychologists when I was still in the military, and they have not been able to help me much.  They diagnosed me as a homosexual transgender and left it at that.

I worry about children who may be out there now in the same situation that I was in.  Forced into gender roles that they do want to adopt.  I worry about how they'll react to the situation.  Some may be braver than I was and kill themselves.  I hope that some parents who are trying to restrain their transgendered children read this and realise what kind of harm that can lead to.
 

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January 13, 2009, 12:54 pm PST

This woman is hostile and needs to be real

This lady needs to look at all the possibilities not just the two that are on her side.  All children have fantasys of wanting to be someone else.  If they are re-directed enough times they get the message.  I feel that when the mom was having trouble with her husband she probably was showing more attention to the boy than she thought and was probably turning to him more than she thinks.  Mom's who are having marriage trouble tend to turn to their children even if they do not realize it.
She needed to turn him more toward his dad and not away from him and she needed to find him a good male role model.
She needs to be less invasive.

 

 
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January 13, 2009, 12:55 pm PST

When boys become girls ...it aint your fault

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These therapists are part of the indoctrination of our children that has been going on for a long time . T hey want them to believe it is ok to be homosexual :so the first time that a child displays some natural curiosity the parent goes all balistic and takes their child to one of hese quacks. They are then told that their child is really hiding the desire to be the gender other than what  he or she is. And we are to halt all rationality and believe that a 3 year old can decide this type of thing. Give me a big old break. A child that age is hardly aware of what they are. They just want to be left alone to play and grow up to be nornal paople.

Let me assure you there is nothing you can do to influence your childs gender identity either way. I am almost 60 years old and wrestled with gender identity from the time I was 3 until I had surgery at age 39. I always wanted to know why me....why me of all the things that could happen to anyone why do I have gender dysphoria.

 

I was not raised or encouraged to want to be female. My father was a very masculine man and my mother expected us to be typical boys. My Father was even openly homophobic. He expected us to be typical boys. My brother is very masculine. Me however could not understand this need within me to always feel drawn to be female.

 

I did my best to deny these feelings for years. I took on very masculine work like building houses. I wore a beard and long hair for a long time and looked like a hells angel. I was married and did all the things that an independent male usually does. Fixed my own cars, raised my own food, built my own house. Had a loving wonderful wife and two beautiful children.

 

After an accident at work where I damaged my shoulder and could barely swing a hammer any more....my world began to colapse. In may ways I had everything I could want......except my true authentic self. I wanted to finish out the rest of my life as female and couldn't without disrupting the lives of three other people directly and others a little less directly.

 

Gender Identity disorders are real. Toni is right you can brow beat a child into anything....they will always be miserable until they get to be who they really are.

 

I lost everything to finally get to where I am I only wish that society was more understanding many years ago it would have spared me and many others all of this pain. I feel completed as a human being now. I no longer struggle with who I am. My only regret is hurting my children.

 

By the way being a transsexual is not at all the same as being gay. As a twenty something I had plenty of oportunities to be with same sex folks.....but I knew that is not who I am. I now have many gay friends but the ones I am closest to are other transsexuals only we know what we go through. I have been celibate for 22 years now. This has nothing to do with who you want to sleep with. Its about how you see yourself in the mirror with no clothes on.

 

There are many folks who are Hermaphrodite, some who are folks who have testicular feminization syndrome. The body just does not respond to testosterone. In my mind I would say what happens to we who are transsexuals is a form of testicular feminization of the brain instead of the body. 

 

The best day of my life was the day I started hormone therapy. It began puberty all over again. I became more sensitive than I already had been. laughed more easily, cried more easily. Became guidy like 14 year old girls do. My voice began to change my skin became softer. I still had to suffer through months of electrolysis to get rid of facial hair.

 
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January 13, 2009, 12:57 pm PST

Dr's or preachers

About the show about the trans gender issues. If my eyes were closed I'd thought i was listening to a pastor and not Dr's. My main two questions are, boys are usually much closer to their moms and girls their fathers, but in a world where single moms (with totally absent dads) are so prevalent, why dont we have a wave of trans gender issue kids rather than kids with other issues like drugs, violent, etc.
 
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January 13, 2009, 12:59 pm PST

you are who you are

Unless you are the parent of a transgendered ,gay,lesbain child, have no idea what you are talking about. The mother on this show has all the right to be angry with the 2 who think its  choice. It is not a choice. I am the mother of a gay son who is now 32 . I always knew he was differant. he did not come out til he was in his 20's . His father was not in the picture but he did have my dad as a father figure. To say a mom is to close to her son and watchout you are making him gay or whatever is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard .His father was a drug addict and a drunk and now is dead. Is that what he should have hung around with to see if we could fix the "problem" . I think not . This world would be such a better place if you all would have accept people for who they are and don't try to change things when you have no idea what you're talking about. Unless you have walked the walk  you havn't got a clue what we have to deal with everyday. I love my son no matter what
 
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January 13, 2009, 1:01 pm PST

I Believe The Root Of This Situation Is The Mother

The Mom on today's show is the one who shows confusion. From my perspective if she has accepted the situation than why mourn her sons transition from male to female. I think the problem was her, she admitted to not being close to her son. Ummm, Why??? I'm a mother and I could never dream of being detached from my child especially at 2yrs old. I believe her son was looking for her love that she denied him when he was a boy. The only way to find her love was to turn to a female like his mom so they can relate to each other! I believe she is the type of person who refuses to listen to other people's objective criticism. If you go on a talk show and she did see the therapist's from the previous show than why the hell would you place yourself in the position where you will encounter them. I just think she was looking to blame someone for her child's feelings. I believe yes her kid is confused but right now what he/she needs is love!!!!!!!!!!
 

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January 13, 2009, 1:02 pm PST

Look in the mirror

I cannot fathum anyone of my children wanting to become the opposite sex so that part of it i cannot comment on as I dont know the feelings of my child asking or behaving like the opposite sex however I feel the mother will find her answers as to why this happened to her by looking straight into the mirror! I feel she should watch back the show and see just how overbearing she is to other people who are experts on the subject. If she is like that with strangers you can only imagine how she was with her son.  I question why her husband wasnt on the show,  could it be the mother chased him out too by acting the same way?? I can understand why her son is the way that he is,,,Look in the mirror mom!!!!

 
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