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Dr. Phil tackles the sensitive topic of children who identify more with the opposite sex. What do you do if your son wants to wear dresses and play with dolls? Or if your daughter tells you she wants to be a boy? Should parents chock it up to being a phase that their children will grow out of, or should they intervene right away? Meet Melissa and Tim, whose 8-year-old son declared himself to be a girl when he was just 3 years old. Now, they allow their child to live as a girl and wonder if and when they should begin hormone therapy. Then, when Mary’s son was 8, he told her he felt like a girl, and Mary allowed him to experiment with dressing as a female. Now a teenager, her son is more comfortable living as a male -- but Mary wonders if she caused his confusion. Joining the discussion are experts with differing points of view: Dr. Dan Siegel, professor and clinical psychiatrist at UCLA School of Medicine, and Glenn Stanton, author and research fellow with the organization Focus on the Family. Is gender identity something we’re born with, or is it influenced by parents and environment? Don’t miss this heated discussion, then talk about the show here..

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October 29, 2008, 1:02 pm PDT

10/29 Gender Confused Children

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This could NOT be more true. When I hear that people think our trans-gender family/freinds are CONFUSED. LOL! Let me ask YOU, are you CONFUSED that you are NOT trans-gender? Do you really think they would put themselves through all of this, like what some of these ignorant posters are saying, because it is SOMETHING they are confused about or something they are going through. Gesh,

 

The one so-called expert in the auidence is SO ignorant. Trying to blame the parents. Ya, sure they are having such a great time with all of this.

 

It is amazing how mean and nasty people that have NO idea what they are talking about, think they know it all.

 

Who is this FOOL in the audience... I have to laugh. I just have to take a few moments before I post more. I am just so fustrated by that so-called expert.

 

 

THANK YOU!

I cannot understand how someone who works for Focus on the Family can hold themselves out as some sort of expert.

I can understand having beliefs on the morality of an issue... but not for a second can I condone pretending to be an authority on something you've obviously dodged doing the homework on.

I, for one, think those parents are being the best possible parents one can be in that situation. They're not telling the kid he is a girl, they're merely accepting that their child may be different, and supporting that child.

I'm fairly sure the bible says something about unconditional love, yes?
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:03 pm PDT

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I don't see what the big deal is if a boy wants to be a girl or if a girl wants to be a boy.  I haven't heard any LOGICAL reasons why it would be bad to allow a kid to act how they want to in terms of gender indentity.
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:05 pm PDT

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The BOY on the show said that God had made a mistake.  That is what made me respond with "God doesn't make mistakes."  he was saying that God made him a boy when he should have been a girl and therefore GOD made the mistake. 

What I am referring to in any of these instances is that if GOD made you a girl, you are a girl.  If GOD made you a boy, then you are a boy... no mistakes here!!

u are born what u are god makes no mistakes
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:06 pm PDT

For a country that says they are not racist.....

Really??  I am sure most people posting would like to think they are ver y accepting.  So why does what a person enjoys decide they have some band-aid disorder?  Do the lines between men and women really remain so defined.  Just because I dont have a penis does not mean I cant be a masculine person in the sense of what I enjoy.

As a child I would have been considered gender disordered I suppose.  I asked my parents why I wasnt a boy when I was only 3 or 4. I dressed like a boy, played with boys and my parents were fine with that.  However, they did reinforce that I was a girl.  That is how I was born and that is how I would always be. 

 

Where I think the transgendered issue comes from is a societal issue.  From my experience, I wanted to do maculine things and it frustrated me when people would give me a doll or dress for a gift.  And it does exist at that young of an age... it exists from birth; ever notice when people buy pink for girls.  In a childs mind when someone says that is for girls (or boys) it makes sense to think you should just be that instead so you may do what you enjoy! 

 

I admit some people have more masculine characteristics and some more feminine, but this is not a disorder.  This is simply how we all fit into the lines that have been laid as to what is a man and what is a woman.

 

If you are a parent considering to allow your child to "switch" their gender, I am here to say dont.  A child is just figuring out the world they are in and they are faced with stereotypes.  Let them know that they can be the sex they are while enjoying whatever it is they like.   If they want cosmetic surgery as an adult then it is their desicion.

 

This is a sexism issue, and If you believe that women and men are equal why is this even an issue.  If someone can be transgendered then maybe there are defined places in this world for men and women and maybe we should not have attempted to blur the lines....

 

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October 29, 2008, 1:06 pm PDT

Gender confused kids with Confused parents

I was shocked to see the actual decisions the parents were making for their children in the name of "support." I don't think the children were developed enough to make these decisions and needed counseling first, as well as the family to deal with the issues before slapping on clothes of the opposite sex on their kids. It made me wonder if the parents were living out their own gender confusion or sexuality in reverse. The mother of the 8 year old boy who is now considered a girl seemed as though she has some of  her own confusion going on that was plyaing out in her child.
 

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October 29, 2008, 1:06 pm PDT

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As I read your letter I hear a person who is trying to convince themselves that the life they are living is ok. You know deep within your soul that this is not the life that God intended for you to live. If you really and truly know God you would know that yes he loves you and he wants you to come to him and let him give you the life you were meant to have as a man. If you were raised in church you would know were in the Bible it talks about this as a sin. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love you but it does mean that he holds you accountable for your life and your decisions. Are you making decisions that are pleasing to him? He can help you and there are people that care and can help you also in this confusing issue in your life.

If you "truly know God" as you put it, you'd know God loves ALL of his children.

Not the ones that follow your path. Not the ones that do what a Priest says is the good thing to do. ALL OF THEM. I don't think God made a mistake in creating transgendered people. I think an all-knowing and all powerful God is simply showing us the world is a diverse place.

Saying he loves you, but you'll pay is ridiculous.
Would God want you to pretend you're something else??? Would God want you to live a lie? Of course not. God is wonderful because he is capable of creating so much.... not just because he creates what you deem acceptable.
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:06 pm PDT

Educate yourself

The issue of gender confusion has nothing to do with beliefs or God, it is a scientific, biological phenomenon that should be treated as such.  If your body defines who you are, what does that say about our society?  Our mind, heart and spirit define us, not our physical appearance.  As a parent, your only responsibility is to serve your child's best interest.  Listen to your child, listen to the experts and educate yourself, ignorance does no one any good, especially your child!!

 
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October 29, 2008, 1:06 pm PDT

Transgender children

I am glad Dr. Phil finally did a show like this. I was not, however, thrilled about the idea of the anti-Trans Gender team having religious motivations. "God this" and "God that." God doesn't create children, a sperm and an egg do. From then on out, that child is out in the world developing as best they can. Telling a girl to not to be a boy because "god says so." That's not scientificly valid. Thats not even an argument. That's just plain ignorant. Telling a girl not to be a boy because of all of the societal challenges...that's a valid argument. All you can do is equip your kids with everything they need to make decisions.

 
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October 29, 2008, 1:06 pm PDT

years

I remember years ago a little boy telling his parents (he was about 4-5) he wanted to be a girl-his dad took a knife and said "Well, we'll have to cut off your penis"  that changed his mind.  We're talking 50 year ago before "coming out" was "in"
 
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October 29, 2008, 1:09 pm PDT

10/29 Gender Confused Children

I am sorry.. but i guess it's "to each their own" .. but i dont agree with a parent helping their child to be a gender they are not.... i dont think this is normal. and you are born what u are... if you are going to change your gender, do it when ur over 18, living on ur own, and then go out and dress drag.. but as a child, no parent should be helping their child do this.
it only makes their lives, confussing, and everyone around them, and it will depress them later in life, one way or another.
why can't people just be normal now adays..... people thinking they can let their kids do what they want... express what they want...... it's crazy...
we are the parents......... WE are BOSS... we tell them what is right, and what isn't....... not them...
 
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