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Topic : 10/29 Gender Confused Children

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Dr. Phil tackles the sensitive topic of children who identify more with the opposite sex. What do you do if your son wants to wear dresses and play with dolls? Or if your daughter tells you she wants to be a boy? Should parents chock it up to being a phase that their children will grow out of, or should they intervene right away? Meet Melissa and Tim, whose 8-year-old son declared himself to be a girl when he was just 3 years old. Now, they allow their child to live as a girl and wonder if and when they should begin hormone therapy. Then, when Mary’s son was 8, he told her he felt like a girl, and Mary allowed him to experiment with dressing as a female. Now a teenager, her son is more comfortable living as a male -- but Mary wonders if she caused his confusion. Joining the discussion are experts with differing points of view: Dr. Dan Siegel, professor and clinical psychiatrist at UCLA School of Medicine, and Glenn Stanton, author and research fellow with the organization Focus on the Family. Is gender identity something we’re born with, or is it influenced by parents and environment? Don’t miss this heated discussion, then talk about the show here..

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October 29, 2008, 4:35 pm PDT

Are you kidding me???

Gender Confusion for an 8 yr old, or a 3 yr old??  I don't think that the child is confused about their gender, I think the parents are confused about what sex of child they wanted!!!

 

This is absolutely insane!! That poor child is going to be confused & scarred for the rest of his life. Yes I said "his", he is a boy not a girl!!

 

One last thing, I can not even believe that those parents are even considering hormones for their 8 yr old. That child should be worried about school work not what is under his clothes or which gender specified clothing he should wear!! I can't believe we we let people like this actually have kids!!

 

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October 29, 2008, 4:35 pm PDT

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I totally agree! BUT! That's not good enough for most. Unfortunately , the assumption is made nowadays that if you disagree with someone's actions you automatically hate the person. It makes them feel better if you look like an evil narrow-minded ogre. Make sure you don't express your disapproval with anything else your kids do either. Don't want to be accused of spewing hate speach.
okay so what is your answer to those kids that were never abused, sexually, emotionally, physically and still turned out to be gay?  What is your answer to that?  Because, I guess you know every gay person out there and how they grew up, right?  Yes, I'm calling you ignorant and your response is ignorant because, ignorance means not knowing!  So unless, you know every gay persons's situation than, I'm going to be oh my god you're right but you don't!!!  Also, what about the straight people who were sexually abused, emotionally abused and never went to counseling grew up fine and not gay?  So, like, I said your response is irrelevant!
 
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October 29, 2008, 4:36 pm PDT

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Children need to be guided. If you let them think its ok, they will. If you influence them be what they were born to be they will pick up on that and then decide. Tabula rosa, latin for clean slate. When you are born you are a clean slate, its society that puts impressions on you.
 
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October 29, 2008, 4:36 pm PDT

Yes, God DOES make mistakes!

The world is NOT black and white. Just because we do not fully understand the very complex human mind does not mean we have to make ignorant statements like, "God does not make mistakes" or "boys are boys and girls are girls"--in a perfect world, yes, things would be that simple, but that's not reality. Gender issues are real and many people have simply been born in the wrong body.
 
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October 29, 2008, 4:37 pm PDT

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i believe that the people who only have an answer when they can involve god in it, are the people that are very close minded and scared of what they don't know! get out in the world, open up your mind and thik for yourself! i'm a young woman...a gay woman, i am in a "helpnig field" and my sexual orientation is something that does not stop me from being a good and successful person!

people who can only use god in their defense frustrate me!! it's those people that cuase the suicidal and depressed feelings, it's those people that make gay or transgendered individuals feel alienated!!!

 

get over yourself!!

 
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October 29, 2008, 4:40 pm PDT

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my name is erica and i just finished watching todays show on gender confused children. in my own personal opinion i definatly believe it is possibly for a child as young as three to indentify themeselves with the opposite gender, i the case of todays show, the discussion was over whether children are born transgender or if the family enviroment determines whether a child will feel 'transgener' i believe it could be both! a child who is raised from the time of birth as the gender they were born but yet feels the oppostie gender from what they were born is most likely truly 'transegender' i think that a child who may feel transgender when they are young but seems to 'grow out of it' probably experienced a traumatic experience, early on, ie. sexual abuse, parental seperation, and possibly over exposure of opposite sex activities. i also believe that a transgendered child may choose to go back to their original sex may be doing so under influence for example a young boy wants to be a girl but in trying to make the transformation is constanty bullied and made fun of and possibly even beat up, will grow up to think that it is wrong to be who they truly are and choose to be be the gender they were born with, i also believe that doing so and preventing a child from expressing themselves openly could cause depression, alcoholism, drug addiction, prostitution, poor relationships and even suicide. in todays show the story of david reimer was mentioned and stated that his story porves that transgender in children does not exist! well i know the story of david reimer and in his case due to a poor circumsition at birth his parents decided to raise his a girl and his twin brother as a boy with the guidance of john money. david was born with male genitalia and a 'males brain' but he was raised as a girl and was never told about what a girl was or what a boy was, david was a guina pig for money, during his life david always wonder why he was different from other girls he wanted to be a boy but was pressured to be a girl, at age 14 as he began puberty he would question his parents and wonder things like why he was a masculine girl, body hair, deeper voice etc. his mother then cofessed to him the truth about his life, at the point david finally recognized who he was, and why he was so confused, he then began living his life as a male and went public to discourage similar medical practices. but at age 38 david comitted suicide, most likely because he could not cope with his past.
 

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October 29, 2008, 4:41 pm PDT

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I have a grandson same as the first couple. But his mom and stepdad dont like it. I dont know what to do. when he cames here he will dress like a girl but I dont know if im doing the right thing. I dont what to go against her but I dont what him to think something is wrong with him Help
 
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October 29, 2008, 4:42 pm PDT

understanding what is going on

people better get a grip on what is going on ... i totally agree with the dr. that dr. phil had on their today ..

how can a young child at the age of 3-9 know they suppose to be someone else dont like the body their in... i agree that its in the genetics.... come on people!!!!! its a new age its not 1900 everything isnt always so black and white... if my child would come to me and say they think their suppose to be a boy at a very early age and wanted to do things of the opposite sex since very very young.... i would be so supportive and understanding and do what i could to help them and more important i would LOVE THEM i would still be the parent ... it doesnt have anything to do with being the parent or not being a parent . as parents we love and nurture our parents...   gay or straight or transgender i will love and support mine if it was one of my children  their is no shame and blame.... the reason why these type of people are being so vocal now where they werent even 20 yrs. ago is they can be vocal about who they are instead of having to be in the closet so to speak and for those of you who are what you are you go... be who you are no shame no blame !!!!!

 
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October 29, 2008, 4:43 pm PDT

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I am so upset on parents like that couple on the show today.  No child that young knows for sure what they want.  It sounds like to me, the Mom just wanted a daughter and I think a lot of what that little boy said was put into his head from his Mom.  I think that the Dad is acting like Adam did, in the Garden of Eden, and allowing his wife, (like Eve did), to lead him to follow her actions.  He should have a brain of his own to know what is right and what is wrong.  It sounds like she has influenced him a lot, too.

 

She should have done like the African-American couple in the audience said what they did, or would do, if their child ever hinted at something for the opposite sex.  All of the parents of children should do as the African-American couple said on what they would do.

 

Parents have the biggest % of influence over their children.  They need to be reading the Bible, also, and  actually read and understand what it says.  It says in the Bible in several places about how God does not approve of homosexuality. 

 

God meant for boys to be boys and girls to be girls.  Any true Christian would know that.

 

After that child reaches adulthood, then those kind of sexual preference problems are between that person and God.  That grown child will have to face God on Judgement day.

 

But, the parents are the ones who are to bring up the child in a good Christian way and as God expects them to, and to teach their children what God wants of them.  Those parents are going to have to face God on Judgement day, if they don't do all that they can to teach the child what God wants, and instead go along with what the child wants.

 

The couple on todays show, are a real dissapointment to the way that people are supposed to be.

 

 

This isn't about being a good Christian. It's a wonderful thing to have something to believe in, however, it doesn't matter if the parents are open to letting their child explore a different sex or highly opposed, the child will feel as he/she does. Period. I, personally, would rather having a parent supporting me than telling me what I feel in my heart is wrong. No one likes to think that the way they feel is sinful.

 

If the show taught me anything, it's that I have a higher awareness of how we stereotype boys and girls. It reminds me of how in some cultures, women cannot wear pants because it is masculine. Why should we restrict our children to fit into a mold. They are perfect as they are.

 

Maybe I'm rambling, but the whole message board controversy is getting me a little on edge because I've had to live with these stereotypes.

 
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October 29, 2008, 4:43 pm PDT

hmm...no matter what is said, someone will be upset...

this topic goes back to the basic opposing view points of science and religion. It is almost unfortunate that people even take the time to try to perswade some one who has comepletly different veiws and oppinons. I mean, we know better then to tell someone to stop believing in god. This is an issue that is honestly none of anybody elses business but the childs and their parents. Even though everyone got to say what they wanted anyways it is 100% dependant on the believes and values of the parents and no one elses. The catcher is that no matter what their desicion is, their will ALWAYS be people who are against it. hah.

 

 I wish everone would  take a minute to step out of their personal bubble, Sit back with honest eyes and take into the account that they are not the ones going through this. How could they ever possibly know what its like or know what it would be like to have a gender confused child or have been one. I find it very ignorant that people could sit there and say "god doesn't make mistakes" or blame the parents becuase no body asked for this. Everyone is simply playing the card they were dealt and playing it the best way they know how.

Even if a child does grow up and change his or her mind, i still give a standing ovation to the parents who put their childs happiness and satisfaction before their own.

 
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