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Dr. Phil tackles the sensitive topic of children who identify more with the opposite sex. What do you do if your son wants to wear dresses and play with dolls? Or if your daughter tells you she wants to be a boy? Should parents chock it up to being a phase that their children will grow out of, or should they intervene right away? Meet Melissa and Tim, whose 8-year-old son declared himself to be a girl when he was just 3 years old. Now, they allow their child to live as a girl and wonder if and when they should begin hormone therapy. Then, when Mary’s son was 8, he told her he felt like a girl, and Mary allowed him to experiment with dressing as a female. Now a teenager, her son is more comfortable living as a male -- but Mary wonders if she caused his confusion. Joining the discussion are experts with differing points of view: Dr. Dan Siegel, professor and clinical psychiatrist at UCLA School of Medicine, and Glenn Stanton, author and research fellow with the organization Focus on the Family. Is gender identity something we’re born with, or is it influenced by parents and environment? Don’t miss this heated discussion, then talk about the show here..

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November 10, 2008, 2:22 am PST

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I truly believe people are born this way especially if they are young children exhibiting these gender identity issues.  If my child had this issue, I would support her and get treatment as soon as possible. If after that if she still wanted and really felt like a boy then I would do all I can to help her with that so she can get the most out of her life.

These children don't ask to be born this way and I am sure it is something that tortures them on a daily basis. I am a lesbian and when I was young, I remember how hard it was knowing I was so different. I began drinking at age 16 and tried committing suicide numerous times because I hated myself. Now I am 32 years old and i am in recovery...a month clean...and I accept who I am and I am loved by all those around me.

 

These kids just need  unconditional love...NO MATTER WHAT!!!!

Firstly I want to say that I agree with this comment. This email is further to what is said, and I just say thank you for it before continuing.

I've lived this and reading through this forum and seeing some of these shows I am really fed up. Who the hell do you people think you are demanding that I justify my gender according to your standards. Let's make something clear, this is _MY_ life.

So many times I have heard people use their ability to take their gender for granted as an excuse to be rude, condescending or passive aggressive. Who the hell do you think you are? So you take your gender for granted, well way to go you for being an unthinking superficial person who has never had reason to question the things you consider fundamental in life.

I once respected Dr Phil, I currently do not. I was victim to this reparative nonsense for my entire childhood and all it achieved was to strip me of my self esteem and self worth. Leave transgender kids the hell alone and let them be what they are and find self love. Where people get off thinking that the brain has some magical shroud around it that somehow shields them from hormonal and biological influences I just can't get over. Get real, life, our existence isn't simple. Subject a fish to hormones early enough in its development and even it will characteristically AND physically become like "the other." Mess genetically with them (or us) and create hormone in-sensitivities and the same happens. That's right, I forgot, we're made in God's image and aren't affected by the physical environment because that doesn't suit religious or (old style) feminist dogma and opinion must prevail. My experience of gender is that it is simultaneously absolute and not. How is that? Simple, My brain functions on multiple levels, some things are instinctive (like my tendency to breathe) and others are voluntary (like my tendency to breathe). If I choose not to, I feel unbearable discomfort leading me to let instinct take over, or voluntarily take a deep breath. I had the tendency to want to take a man's genetic material and want to combine it with mine and nurture a child inside me and give birth to it too, believe it or not, probably not for many of you because it doesn't suit your purpose and is not convenient for you. Deal with it, you say? Go tell that to a woman (or man) whose body has let her (or him) down reproductively. Tell the man not to have sex. Tell the woman to 'get over' her instincts. Perhaps not. Perhaps instead, go jump when it comes to telling me to get over mine.

On one hand it has been asserted, how can I possibly know what it means to feel female? Well perhaps I don't; but I'll tell you what, having lived my entire adult life as I have I have far more of a clue what that means to ME than you seem willing to allow yourself to bother comprehending about being transgendered.

So, my life experience has been different. How does that make me any less legitimate as a human being, worthy of consideration and basic human dignity. I read that other women take their bodies and gender for granted. How virtuous that must be. Has it occurred to you that perhaps transgender people feel the same way? It is only through petty smallmindedness such as this that we develop low self esteem through the two faced damned if you do damned if you don't attitude that if you're assertive you are masculine and if you're not you're a mere caricature. Perhaps the problem doesn't exist in my head. Perhaps it exists in yours. So a large number of people might be intolerant toward me. I am what I am and I am not prepared to live in a state of perpetual body anxiety just to adhere to your (or Doctor Phil's) simplistic either/or constructions of gender. Are you people of so little intellect that you believe gender to be a simple on/off switch? Why does it have to be a simplistic question of socialisation or biological? Wake up people, I am the sum of my biology and my life experience! That experience we call gender is neither independent of biology not socialization. The fact that different cultured experiences of gender, transgender people, and intersex people with physical ambiguities exist is testament to that. Mine has been different, great, Dr Phil, go get a life. I would not get on international television disparaging your life experience as confusion, so don't dare do that to me. In my experience I knew exactly what I was and I wasn't deluded that I wasn't different by virtue of my transsexuality either. I didn't choose it, that is the truth, but I tell you what, if I could, I probably would because I can not think of anything more frightful than to have grown up shallow and devoid of capacity to imagine myself in shoes other than those I have walked in. If I had to be transsexual to learn that, then I am thankful for that. What it is that you are so afraid of, such slaves to your own instinct to fear all that is different. Well, I have frontal lobes that are able to overcome that primal fear... even my pet budgies do when they learn we are not a threat. So what is it that has been indoctrinated in you that makes you limit yourself more than my budgies, or is it just laziness? I am guessing the latter, or perhaps it has just not occurred to even Dr Phil that there are other perspectives on this life that are just as valid and just as correct as your own that may be different and even conflict with yours. It is wrong to steal, what if it is medicine to save a life? I achieved that higher functioning quite young. How about you? Life isn't binary, and it's not a simplistic spectrum either. Has anyone considered that perhaps it is the constructed model that doesn't allow for exceptions, and not the individual, who is wrong for daring to not fit it? How about leave people be instead of trying to impose constructed models that limit your own comprehension on them.

What I consider dangerous is the lack of respect for the value of human freedom and the need to experience happiness in this life. I can only speculate that this is because you have never had the experience of being truly suffocated by oppression of it. Why I consider this dangerous, is because if as a society we allow ANYONE to impose their narrow perception of how things should be on someone else and deny them their happiness on the basis of what, 50%+1, then guess what, you've sold your own freedom down the river because someone one day could do it to you over something you value. I have one life and I am not prepared to live it in denial, self or otherwise imposed misery for you or anyone else.

There was once a man called Adolf Hitler who had some very interesting ideas about eliminating mistakes in humanity to create a perfect world. The only difference I see in some of you is that you have the temerity to blame God for your own gut insecurities and to assume that he speaks though YOU about others. If there is a God, I assure you, the last place he or she would reside is in my gut.

These kids need unconditional love, no matter what, and if you are unsure of that, ask yourself if your child would huddle quietly beside a church and pray that their suffering be resolved AND for a new family that would love them.

If I were to believe some of the attitudes people attribute to their God, it sounds to me like he is the most inconsiderate unmoving narcissistic sadistic moron who has ever existed, yet he loves me?? Get real, sorry, if there is a God and he loves me then he would not judge me for dealing with my pain. It could well be that on judgement day he might challenge me for not fulfilling my role to eradicate hate and challenge you for being judgemental and elevating yourself to the status of God. It could also well be that there is no man in the red suit delivering the presents and once we're dead we're dead, and I'll have wasted my whole life in misery, for what? Your narrow concept of "joy." Joy is escaping adversity to find happiness. I've done that. Have you Dr Phil, or are you just selling ads on your show?

I once respected you as thoughtful. On this subject, you have much to learn.... as did Oprah a few decades ago, ... boy has she come a long way! *Bows down in admiration*
 
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November 10, 2008, 8:03 am PST

thats wonderful sweety:)

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I can understand why you would be so upset, some of the comments have been alarming to me.  I am very sorry for the loss of your friend.  You are honoring his memory well by being here and telling his story, and trying to educate people on the subject. 

I am doing very well now since the surgery.  I had to go back due to a couple of complications, but that was a few years ago.  Since then, I have gotten married to the most wonderful woman,  I have a great career and everything is going very well. 

Im so glad and happy for you Ive ebjoyed reading your comments and like your point of views we have the same in alot of ways . Peace and happiness to you and your wife forever:) Keep speaking out as Iam we need more people like you on this earth:)
 
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November 10, 2008, 8:13 am PST

yes thank you for this comment:)

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You're right. Bonobo chimps have all sorts of sexual relationships. It's a happy come as you are free for all. Female Japanese macaques are known to form temporary homosexual bonds during mating season which in turn strengthens their familial bonds. There are too many examples to write about here. People don't see because they don't want to.
This is very true I love animals and study them quite closely, Ive read alot of your post you seem to be a very vibrant, intellegent young lady and have enjoyed reading what you have to say. I agree with you in alot of ways...well pretty much all of them:) If Im not mistaken I think I read that you are atheist? If not then I deeply appologize now but if you are Iam one as well and Im glad to see that theyre are so many on here speaking out strongly for it. We need to keep this up. I accept everyone for who they are and deeply respect people for their individuality, even zookeeper, he or she has a right to her opinions and I know where and why he or she is talking the way they are, I just simply choose to let her have her say and ignore that type of person because i know how heated I can get and after reading some things she has posted I know better then to argue with the likes of him or her I dont want to be kicked off this for good.....I have a temper I admit but I dont like getting angry and upset lifes to short for it. Peace be with you always:)
 
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November 10, 2008, 8:36 am PST

I agree that it is a good beginning

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On your first point, yes 45 is not a large number, neither is 46 which was the number in the second study, if you are looking at the population of the planet.  However, the dissection of the brain tissue is very labor intensive, and great care was taken to treat every specimen the same, so that no results were falsely reported.  If you look at all 46 in the study, they had an extensive history of each patient.  In each sample, the number of neurons was either in the male or female range in this particular area of the brain. 

 

Second, yes every patient was dead, so far there is no type of scan with enough resolution to study this are definitively.  So far, gross dissection is the only way to do this study.  From what I read in the study, each patient had a well documented past medical history, including surgery and hormone usage where applicable.

 

Third, there was a sample from a female to male patient in the second study, that had not been available in the first study.  The results of that sample showed the number of neurons to be equal to that of any other male in the study.

 

Fourth, by looking at the data, I did not see any overlap in the numbers of any sample, and in the second study they were not looking at BSTc volume, but the difference in the number of neurons in the BSTc area.  The first study was about volume, the second was neuron number.

 

This research is no different from any other, for every result, there are always more questions to be answered.  I had said it was a good start, at least someone is doing some research. 

 I agree that it is a good beginning, and definitely worth pursuing...and is definitely in line with what intuitively seems obvious, "seems" being the operative word.

I only commented because elsewhere you had stated that  this was a "conclusive" study, and that a "definitive" difference between male and female brains had been discovered as a result of the tests in question.

"Conclusive" means "serving to settle or decide a question", and that matter is far from settled based on the studies done so far.

"Definitive" means " serving to define, fix, or specify definitely" and as I said, there is no BSTc volume or number of neurons therein, that can alone be used to determine if a brain is "male" or "female", the same way that you can't just look at a skeleton's height and make a definitive statement that the person whose skeleton it was was male or female, based on height alone...you can certainly make an educated guess, but those aren't definitive.
 
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November 10, 2008, 9:05 am PST

It's worse that you're letting on...

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Firstly I want to say that I agree with this comment. This email is further to what is said, and I just say thank you for it before continuing.

I've lived this and reading through this forum and seeing some of these shows I am really fed up. Who the hell do you people think you are demanding that I justify my gender according to your standards. Let's make something clear, this is _MY_ life.

So many times I have heard people use their ability to take their gender for granted as an excuse to be rude, condescending or passive aggressive. Who the hell do you think you are? So you take your gender for granted, well way to go you for being an unthinking superficial person who has never had reason to question the things you consider fundamental in life.

I once respected Dr Phil, I currently do not. I was victim to this reparative nonsense for my entire childhood and all it achieved was to strip me of my self esteem and self worth. Leave transgender kids the hell alone and let them be what they are and find self love. Where people get off thinking that the brain has some magical shroud around it that somehow shields them from hormonal and biological influences I just can't get over. Get real, life, our existence isn't simple. Subject a fish to hormones early enough in its development and even it will characteristically AND physically become like "the other." Mess genetically with them (or us) and create hormone in-sensitivities and the same happens. That's right, I forgot, we're made in God's image and aren't affected by the physical environment because that doesn't suit religious or (old style) feminist dogma and opinion must prevail. My experience of gender is that it is simultaneously absolute and not. How is that? Simple, My brain functions on multiple levels, some things are instinctive (like my tendency to breathe) and others are voluntary (like my tendency to breathe). If I choose not to, I feel unbearable discomfort leading me to let instinct take over, or voluntarily take a deep breath. I had the tendency to want to take a man's genetic material and want to combine it with mine and nurture a child inside me and give birth to it too, believe it or not, probably not for many of you because it doesn't suit your purpose and is not convenient for you. Deal with it, you say? Go tell that to a woman (or man) whose body has let her (or him) down reproductively. Tell the man not to have sex. Tell the woman to 'get over' her instincts. Perhaps not. Perhaps instead, go jump when it comes to telling me to get over mine.

On one hand it has been asserted, how can I possibly know what it means to feel female? Well perhaps I don't; but I'll tell you what, having lived my entire adult life as I have I have far more of a clue what that means to ME than you seem willing to allow yourself to bother comprehending about being transgendered.

So, my life experience has been different. How does that make me any less legitimate as a human being, worthy of consideration and basic human dignity. I read that other women take their bodies and gender for granted. How virtuous that must be. Has it occurred to you that perhaps transgender people feel the same way? It is only through petty smallmindedness such as this that we develop low self esteem through the two faced damned if you do damned if you don't attitude that if you're assertive you are masculine and if you're not you're a mere caricature. Perhaps the problem doesn't exist in my head. Perhaps it exists in yours. So a large number of people might be intolerant toward me. I am what I am and I am not prepared to live in a state of perpetual body anxiety just to adhere to your (or Doctor Phil's) simplistic either/or constructions of gender. Are you people of so little intellect that you believe gender to be a simple on/off switch? Why does it have to be a simplistic question of socialisation or biological? Wake up people, I am the sum of my biology and my life experience! That experience we call gender is neither independent of biology not socialization. The fact that different cultured experiences of gender, transgender people, and intersex people with physical ambiguities exist is testament to that. Mine has been different, great, Dr Phil, go get a life. I would not get on international television disparaging your life experience as confusion, so don't dare do that to me. In my experience I knew exactly what I was and I wasn't deluded that I wasn't different by virtue of my transsexuality either. I didn't choose it, that is the truth, but I tell you what, if I could, I probably would because I can not think of anything more frightful than to have grown up shallow and devoid of capacity to imagine myself in shoes other than those I have walked in. If I had to be transsexual to learn that, then I am thankful for that. What it is that you are so afraid of, such slaves to your own instinct to fear all that is different. Well, I have frontal lobes that are able to overcome that primal fear... even my pet budgies do when they learn we are not a threat. So what is it that has been indoctrinated in you that makes you limit yourself more than my budgies, or is it just laziness? I am guessing the latter, or perhaps it has just not occurred to even Dr Phil that there are other perspectives on this life that are just as valid and just as correct as your own that may be different and even conflict with yours. It is wrong to steal, what if it is medicine to save a life? I achieved that higher functioning quite young. How about you? Life isn't binary, and it's not a simplistic spectrum either. Has anyone considered that perhaps it is the constructed model that doesn't allow for exceptions, and not the individual, who is wrong for daring to not fit it? How about leave people be instead of trying to impose constructed models that limit your own comprehension on them.

What I consider dangerous is the lack of respect for the value of human freedom and the need to experience happiness in this life. I can only speculate that this is because you have never had the experience of being truly suffocated by oppression of it. Why I consider this dangerous, is because if as a society we allow ANYONE to impose their narrow perception of how things should be on someone else and deny them their happiness on the basis of what, 50%+1, then guess what, you've sold your own freedom down the river because someone one day could do it to you over something you value. I have one life and I am not prepared to live it in denial, self or otherwise imposed misery for you or anyone else.

There was once a man called Adolf Hitler who had some very interesting ideas about eliminating mistakes in humanity to create a perfect world. The only difference I see in some of you is that you have the temerity to blame God for your own gut insecurities and to assume that he speaks though YOU about others. If there is a God, I assure you, the last place he or she would reside is in my gut.

These kids need unconditional love, no matter what, and if you are unsure of that, ask yourself if your child would huddle quietly beside a church and pray that their suffering be resolved AND for a new family that would love them.

If I were to believe some of the attitudes people attribute to their God, it sounds to me like he is the most inconsiderate unmoving narcissistic sadistic moron who has ever existed, yet he loves me?? Get real, sorry, if there is a God and he loves me then he would not judge me for dealing with my pain. It could well be that on judgement day he might challenge me for not fulfilling my role to eradicate hate and challenge you for being judgemental and elevating yourself to the status of God. It could also well be that there is no man in the red suit delivering the presents and once we're dead we're dead, and I'll have wasted my whole life in misery, for what? Your narrow concept of "joy." Joy is escaping adversity to find happiness. I've done that. Have you Dr Phil, or are you just selling ads on your show?

I once respected you as thoughtful. On this subject, you have much to learn.... as did Oprah a few decades ago, ... boy has she come a long way! *Bows down in admiration*
 You said:

"There was once a man called Adolf Hitler who had some very interestingideas about eliminating mistakes in humanity to create a perfect world.The only difference I see in some of you is that you have the temerityto blame God for your own gut insecurities and to assume that he speaksthough YOU about others."

It doesn't get reported very often in mainstream documentaries, no doubt for fear of upsetting fundamentalists, but Hitler actually DID claim to be on a holy mission doing the work of the God of the Bible-

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance withthe will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself againstthe Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."   


   

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)   



 All you need to do is replace "Jew" with "gays and transgendered" and you can see why fundamentalists don't want tp hear this stuff.
  


   


 
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November 10, 2008, 9:53 am PST

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 You said:

"There was once a man called Adolf Hitler who had some very interestingideas about eliminating mistakes in humanity to create a perfect world.The only difference I see in some of you is that you have the temerityto blame God for your own gut insecurities and to assume that he speaksthough YOU about others."

It doesn't get reported very often in mainstream documentaries, no doubt for fear of upsetting fundamentalists, but Hitler actually DID claim to be on a holy mission doing the work of the God of the Bible-

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance withthe will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself againstthe Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."   


   

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)   



 All you need to do is replace "Jew" with "gays and transgendered" and you can see why fundamentalists don't want tp hear this stuff.
  


   


Hitler killed a lot of people not just Jews. Poles, gypsies, gays, trans-gendered, inter-sexed, deformed and disabled. It didn't really matter to him. If they didn't meet his perverted view, they were killed. People fail to see how one tiny little seed of evil can grow into a monster. Religion is the biggest manifestation of evil on this planet.
 
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November 10, 2008, 11:23 am PST

live and let live

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This is very true I love animals and study them quite closely, Ive read alot of your post you seem to be a very vibrant, intellegent young lady and have enjoyed reading what you have to say. I agree with you in alot of ways...well pretty much all of them:) If Im not mistaken I think I read that you are atheist? If not then I deeply appologize now but if you are Iam one as well and Im glad to see that theyre are so many on here speaking out strongly for it. We need to keep this up. I accept everyone for who they are and deeply respect people for their individuality, even zookeeper, he or she has a right to her opinions and I know where and why he or she is talking the way they are, I just simply choose to let her have her say and ignore that type of person because i know how heated I can get and after reading some things she has posted I know better then to argue with the likes of him or her I dont want to be kicked off this for good.....I have a temper I admit but I dont like getting angry and upset lifes to short for it. Peace be with you always:)
I am an atheist. I would prefer not to be any ist but people require labels to understand, and it's no skin off my nose really. I have no respect for religion of any sort as I find it evil. I do have respect for people and their beliefs as long as they do not hurt anyone. I went to church as a child, and had fun. I went to midnight mass with my Oma and loved it. It was beautiful. I am the product of a Christian society and enjoy the holidays and rituals as a part of my culture, but I draw the line at any sort of divinity. I happened to be particularly attentive the day I came to this subject and noticed right away that there was a person I didn't want to converse with. I too see no point in hammering my head against a wall and getting upset for nothing. I firmly believe that every human deserves to be what they want and need to be unless it is harmful to another. Thank for your kind words, and I extend the same to you.
 
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November 10, 2008, 12:08 pm PST

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I am an atheist. I would prefer not to be any ist but people require labels to understand, and it's no skin off my nose really. I have no respect for religion of any sort as I find it evil. I do have respect for people and their beliefs as long as they do not hurt anyone. I went to church as a child, and had fun. I went to midnight mass with my Oma and loved it. It was beautiful. I am the product of a Christian society and enjoy the holidays and rituals as a part of my culture, but I draw the line at any sort of divinity. I happened to be particularly attentive the day I came to this subject and noticed right away that there was a person I didn't want to converse with. I too see no point in hammering my head against a wall and getting upset for nothing. I firmly believe that every human deserves to be what they want and need to be unless it is harmful to another. Thank for your kind words, and I extend the same to you.
Sorry! Oma is grand mother in German. That is how I learned the word, and sometimes I forget to translate. My mother is from Germany, and my Dad is from Northern Ireland, and I live in a bilingual country, so I have language issues. LOL.
 
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November 10, 2008, 1:22 pm PST

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I was about a week late in watching this show. While watching this it brought up many emotions and feelings I had nod felt in a long time. I am a 40 year old Transgender woman transgendered woman.  After watching this show i was very frustrated by the responses made by some at the show. Naturally You would think I would be an advocate for this alternative lifestyle and I am, but I also believe there were some good points made. I myself relized I was different at an early age but growing up in the midwest(bible belt) I was told it was a sin to wear womens clotheing and from that point on I was afraid of what the future would hold. My parents thought much like the ones on the show did  that its "just a phase". Well I have nothing but total resentment twards my parents for not supporting me . I am not saying that some 30 years ago I wanted to become a woman. It would have been nice to have some resources available to research the Idea of gender transition but none were available. I lived in total agaony for much of my youth and into my early adulthood. The fact that my gender disorder was never addressed or even talked about only set  me into a deppression that  Followed me through 3 marriages , 3 children , and more broken hearts than I care to remember.Also i have had little to NO contact with family since i decided to transition at age 36.  The thought that i lived in total misery for so many years angars me st times but then i realize that I truely began to live 4  years ago. Despite the loss of family I have my sanity and have moved foreward with my life . I am truely happy(except for getting laid off due to the economy) and accept myself. That was the hardest part and not 1 person alive can ever know the struggle of being  a transsexual more than some one who is one. People with there opinions about Directiong a young boy to be a man.... well I tried that. and it never felt right throughout my time as a husband and father. Despite being there for the birth of my youngest daughter, I was compelled almost drawn to being who I am today. I let it all go to presue my life as a transsexual and it was the best decision I ever made for myself.
My only comments for theparents of the 8 year old are, Please be supportive either way she(the child) wants to go whether female or male.The decisions you make now will affect the rest of all of your lives together.
The Other mother on the show I would say watch the situation closely. I said the same things the 16 year old did under duress and pressure from my father.
Please know that just loveing them and being supporting parents by getting information and sharing it will be the biggest gift you can ever give your child.
My favorite saying from a transgenderes friend,'I'd rather people hate me for who I am, than love me for who I'm not".
Jessica Harris
 
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November 10, 2008, 1:39 pm PST

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I was about a week late in watching this show. While watching this it brought up many emotions and feelings I had nod felt in a long time. I am a 40 year old Transgender woman transgendered woman.  After watching this show i was very frustrated by the responses made by some at the show. Naturally You would think I would be an advocate for this alternative lifestyle and I am, but I also believe there were some good points made. I myself relized I was different at an early age but growing up in the midwest(bible belt) I was told it was a sin to wear womens clotheing and from that point on I was afraid of what the future would hold. My parents thought much like the ones on the show did  that its "just a phase". Well I have nothing but total resentment twards my parents for not supporting me . I am not saying that some 30 years ago I wanted to become a woman. It would have been nice to have some resources available to research the Idea of gender transition but none were available. I lived in total agaony for much of my youth and into my early adulthood. The fact that my gender disorder was never addressed or even talked about only set  me into a deppression that  Followed me through 3 marriages , 3 children , and more broken hearts than I care to remember.Also i have had little to NO contact with family since i decided to transition at age 36.  The thought that i lived in total misery for so many years angars me st times but then i realize that I truely began to live 4  years ago. Despite the loss of family I have my sanity and have moved foreward with my life . I am truely happy(except for getting laid off due to the economy) and accept myself. That was the hardest part and not 1 person alive can ever know the struggle of being  a transsexual more than some one who is one. People with there opinions about Directiong a young boy to be a man.... well I tried that. and it never felt right throughout my time as a husband and father. Despite being there for the birth of my youngest daughter, I was compelled almost drawn to being who I am today. I let it all go to presue my life as a transsexual and it was the best decision I ever made for myself.
My only comments for theparents of the 8 year old are, Please be supportive either way she(the child) wants to go whether female or male.The decisions you make now will affect the rest of all of your lives together.
The Other mother on the show I would say watch the situation closely. I said the same things the 16 year old did under duress and pressure from my father.
Please know that just loveing them and being supporting parents by getting information and sharing it will be the biggest gift you can ever give your child.
My favorite saying from a transgenderes friend,'I'd rather people hate me for who I am, than love me for who I'm not".
Jessica Harris
 Where did you watch the show? I missed it but read the transcript. Is it available on this website or something?
 
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