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Dr. Phil tackles the sensitive topic of children who identify more with the opposite sex. What do you do if your son wants to wear dresses and play with dolls? Or if your daughter tells you she wants to be a boy? Should parents chock it up to being a phase that their children will grow out of, or should they intervene right away? Meet Melissa and Tim, whose 8-year-old son declared himself to be a girl when he was just 3 years old. Now, they allow their child to live as a girl and wonder if and when they should begin hormone therapy. Then, when Mary’s son was 8, he told her he felt like a girl, and Mary allowed him to experiment with dressing as a female. Now a teenager, her son is more comfortable living as a male -- but Mary wonders if she caused his confusion. Joining the discussion are experts with differing points of view: Dr. Dan Siegel, professor and clinical psychiatrist at UCLA School of Medicine, and Glenn Stanton, author and research fellow with the organization Focus on the Family. Is gender identity something we’re born with, or is it influenced by parents and environment? Don’t miss this heated discussion, then talk about the show here..

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January 13, 2009, 2:11 pm PST

Disappointed in today's show

Hi Dr. Phil,

I have never done this before, but I do watch your show and have a lot of respect for you and Robin.  I also have a lot of respect for Focus on the Family and when I heard they were on today, I was looking forward to what would take place.  I'm saddened for Toni, who is mourning over her son who is now becoming a "girl"--but I was really upset at how she responded to Dr. Nicolosi and Glen in her sarcastic tone and was just thoroughly ugly to them.  I felt you should have stepped in and let them speak and share more about their practice.  We got to hear plainly about Dr. Seigel's course of treatment--I wish that the same fairness could have been displayed for Dr. N and Glen.  Not everyone has to agree with the same course of treatment and if you are really trying to present both sides fairly--I didn't see that today at all. 

 

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January 13, 2009, 2:15 pm PST

Living the Life of the Lost Boy

Why do men like Nicolosi and Stanton spend their time trying to teach people how to change their child as opposed to how to cope with and accept their child?  What I say in Nicolosi and Stanton was two right-wing, conservative, "Christian" men who have no idea what it means to be born "different".  I am a very well educated 64 year old man who happens to have been blessed with being gay.  As Rev. Ed Bacon said on Oprah, God created and loved each one of us he made.  Being gay and/or transgender is NOT a choice.  Both are genetic.  In reality, the only choice one has, is how he/she lives the life within the life.  To be or not to be isn't the issue. We are as we are!  B.A.

 
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January 13, 2009, 2:17 pm PST

I respect the parents decision.

I don't have any kids but at the end of the day it comes down to the parents--What they want for their children. I think though that at a certain age is just to young to know what they want. I think that if the kids still feel the same way when they are older to make a responsible decision on their own. I think these kids need beeter guidance until they are older. But at the same time i don't kow what it is to live with a child with this confusion then who am i to say. If my child had this problem i really don't know what i would do. I think either way all parents should support and love their kids no matter what. After all it's love that cures all.
 
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January 13, 2009, 2:19 pm PST

only you can support this child!

I am the mother of three very masculine boys who all play sports and LOVE girls!  But I wholeheartedly DISAGREE with the comments that insist that a parent has to steer their boys/girls to identify with their sex when and if their children are struggling with this matter.  If any one of my three sons felt this way I would be in his camp, trying to figure out how serious this was and, if I was convinced he/they truly only identified with the opposite sex, I would try to help them find acceptance in their community because they sure as heck would be accepted by me!  It is our job, as parents, to love our children no matter what, that is the definition of being a parent.  Surely such a conflict would be terribly painful for a child and they would need an understanding and supportive parent more than ever!
 
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January 13, 2009, 2:20 pm PST

My opinion

I believe that gender confusion and homosexuality is not influenced by the parents because they dont choose to be the way they are, they are born that way. There is no way to prevent it from happening or making it happen. Even when the famous poet Edgar Allen Poe was dressed in girl's clothing as a child, he still knew he was a boy although he did have some issues, he had no gender confusion. I dont think it's fair to say that it's the parents who made their child that way, not only is it insulting to the parents but it is damaging to the child because it could make them think there is something wrong with them, which sometimes leads to suicide or the child hurting themselves. Since you can't change your child, the least you can do is support them and let them know that they are not alone and its ok to be different. It's no one's fault whether a child is gender confused nor is it a problem. What harm will it really do if they're that way anyways? I'm not telling anyone their belief is wrong, that's not my intension but I do wish people would consider what is being said and I thank you for reading my opinion on this topic.
 
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January 13, 2009, 2:20 pm PST

Boys will be boys

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I have a son that is 12 1/2 years old. He is all boy plays football, baseball, hunts etc.. I can not believe that those two men believe that a child needs to have a father to be a man. My son has never meet his real father and I have never married. Granted he has had my father in the pic. I would not want to be going through what she is going through, I feel for her. But for those other 2 men to say the things, they are not professional at all, no matter what degrees they have. They are prejudice men who believe that it is the woman's fault.. What does that tell you? I do what ever my son needs just like she does and we want our child to be happy.. If you have a son and that is what he needs I would rather deal with that , then have him dead on drugs.. You need to put those men in your house with some transgender people . They may have a different out look then.. Thank You, Shelly
 Those men are professionals! Just because they don't share your opinion doesn't make them less professional. I am worried about people that believe that children can "choose" who they are going to be. God already made that decision. We never have this problem with animals, nor did we have it with humans just 100 years ago! How can that be explained? Also, it is a fact that many homosexuals don't have a good relationship with their fathers, that doesn't mean it is like that always!
 
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January 13, 2009, 2:20 pm PST

10/29 Gender Confused Children

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not a shocker that Americans shouldn't be reproducing anymore....  I'm 29 and no, I don't have kids... but this show totally shocked me.  Since when does an ADULT listen to a 2 year old boy that says they are a little girl??  are you kidding me?? that is an adult decision that I will respect when my kid is 18 but seriously... come on.  If your 2 year old told you "oh hey mom, I'm thinking I need a couple tats and piercings, can you help me out?" are you gonna listen to that as well??? 
Couldn't agree more!!
 
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January 13, 2009, 2:22 pm PST

Unless you deal with it, no one understands...

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I love Dr Phil.  However he constantly states he has a God-based home, but he has guests that openly state that "God make a mistake".  What is his opinion on this?  As a Christian, I believe God cannot make mistakes or that takes away his omnipotence and omniscience. 

I have to add to all the 50/50 toss ups here about this.  I will tell you from a great deal of experience because I am a trans person.  I knew when I was about 4.  Told my friends at 7 or 8 that I wanted a sex change, even dealt with it until the age of 32.  Thought maybe I could stick it out that something would change.  Did everything to make my parents happy.  Tried to travel the "right" road.  I did not even understand what I was going through, or even what it was.  I had tried to kill myself several times in a 4 year period. 

 

Nobody understands the level of strength it takes to go through this.  It is hard to even go to a doctor, imagine looking like one sex and having anatomy that does not match what you look like.  I did not do this because it was a joke to me.  If any of my kids came to me asking questions I would be honest, I would even try to guide them and listen to them.  Being a parent is not always about making decisions for your kids.  It's also about the ability to listen and research things.  My parents are the best parents a person could ask for.  Both hardworking, have been married for nearly 40 years now.  They did nothing wrong to me.  They did not coerce in either direction.  Heck for the most part they thought I was a tomboy.  They knew nothing until I was 30.  It's people that want to judge that makes it so hard for us.  Nobody has the right to judge....only God.  YES, I do believe in God.

 
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January 13, 2009, 2:23 pm PST

They ARE wrong!

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  In my eyes I think that the two pyscs. are wrong just like the mother was saying.. she tried to get her son to be a boy...

 

 What I was thinking and what i would of told those guys was... what is his father sappose to do throw the dolls away... and show him his male parts.. and say look we are the same.. you need to act like i do... not like a girl.... thats wrong..

 

 in some cases when guys are OLDER there's a difference looking at a guy wanting to be a lady than a BOY wanting to be a girl but like the mother was saying she tried but now her DAUGHTER is happy..

 

 i do see that she might have troubles in school... but once school is over she might have a way better job than everyone else and wont talk to any of them again..

 

it might be really hard for a mother and might think that its wrong or a stage that they go in . but if they are fine with it later that should be fine.

 

also like the mother said. She WASN'T attacted to her son so that isnt the reason he changed...

i am the oldest of 5 brothers and 1 sister ... most of by brothers dont even know their dad's but since they had only my mom/grandmother doesnt mean that they are wanting to be a girl .. it would be nice to have a father figure in their life would be great but once they know they are a boy .. THEY ARE A BOY but from a young age if they think they are a GIRL mabye they should of been a girl.

 

-Courtney

 

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January 13, 2009, 2:25 pm PST

10/29 Gender Confused Children

Words cannot even describe how disgusted I am by the views and comments made by these so called "professionals".  As a mother of 2 boys as well as a woman who holds a psychology degree, I am apauled at the comments made by Glenn Stanton and Dr. Nicolosi.  Who are they to tell this mother that she is too involved and enmeshed in her child's life?  If anything, she should be applauded for being a "plugged in" parent and being there for her child.  Isn't that the whole goal in parenting, to be plugged in and to nurture and love your child NO MATTER WHAT?!?!  I can't believe Dr. Nicolosi would have the nerve to tell this mother who obviously has struggled w/ this that she is too emotional?  Are you kidding me?  She is talking about the life of her child, who almost took her own life b/c of this.  The comments about his so called "treatment" his an absolute joke!  And just as Dr. Angello said- it is a slap in the face to these parents as well as their children.  The brain is such an amazing thing, how can anyone rule out the possibility that this real?  He as well as Mr. Stanton have NO CLUE!  Their answers were so close minded and ridiculous.  The way Dr. Nicolosi was trying to discredit the mother and make her seem "crazy" or "emotional" just goes to show that he had no other answer when she told him that he's never had a child that has gone through this, so he has no idea what he's talking about and that she is a better expert on her child than he is.  Absolutely true!  And that he wrote a book on how to keep your kids from "TURNING" gay is sickeneing.  He should not be allowed to counsel or treat anyone!

 
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