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Dr. Phil tackles the sensitive topic of children who identify more with the opposite sex. What do you do if your son wants to wear dresses and play with dolls? Or if your daughter tells you she wants to be a boy? Should parents chock it up to being a phase that their children will grow out of, or should they intervene right away? Meet Melissa and Tim, whose 8-year-old son declared himself to be a girl when he was just 3 years old. Now, they allow their child to live as a girl and wonder if and when they should begin hormone therapy. Then, when Mary’s son was 8, he told her he felt like a girl, and Mary allowed him to experiment with dressing as a female. Now a teenager, her son is more comfortable living as a male -- but Mary wonders if she caused his confusion. Joining the discussion are experts with differing points of view: Dr. Dan Siegel, professor and clinical psychiatrist at UCLA School of Medicine, and Glenn Stanton, author and research fellow with the organization Focus on the Family. Is gender identity something we’re born with, or is it influenced by parents and environment? Don’t miss this heated discussion, then talk about the show here..

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January 13, 2009, 2:26 pm PST

10/29 Gender Confused Children

What is the most used, maybe over used, piece of advice that we give our children when they come to us seeking acceptance from their peers?  "Just be yourself".  This is what we tell them over and over again and yet when a child attempts to BE themselves we ship them off to therapy to try and find out what is "wrong" with them.  I don't agree with the theory of a hovering mother and a tuned out father.  However, I am troubled by the behavior of this mother who is trying to convince everyone that she believes she has done the right thing by allowing her male born child to live the life of a girl.  By her own admission, she was not attached to her child before OR after the child expressed his wishes to be a girl.  I dont understand her obvious defensive reaction to another opinion.  Do we not preach open-mindedness?  Yet she refused to think that there is someone else who might have a different  way.   I do support her desire to nuture her daughter.  I also believe there is a connection to the introduction of testosterone in the womb, but I'm not sure doctors thinking they can "fix"  these children is the answer. 
 

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January 13, 2009, 2:26 pm PST

Transgendered...

My name is Dylan and im 20 years old. I was born female, but i am transsexual. I know without a doubt that there is nothing female about me besides my body. To be honest, i dont think that people that have not experienced this have any idea how this stuff works. It doesnt matter if youre a psychologist or not. You can have hours of training on hormone therapy, etc etc etc. But no matter how they try to "explain" the ways its not possible, they have no idea. People dont understand. When someone is trans, you know without a doubt that you dont fit your body. I have seen a therapist for this, and ive now been on testosterone (hormone therapy) for 9 months now. For the FIRST TIME in my life, i actually feel really comfortable with myself. My whole life growing up i was sheltered. I definitely had a much closer relationship with my mother than my father, however i still had a relationship with them both. My parents have been married about 25 years, i have a 21 year old brother. My parents have never seperated, nothing like that. A lot of people believe that something happened in my childhood with a man or something that made me this way. Thats not true by any means. Nobody ever touched me inappropriately, i never had an unhealthy relationship with a man, or woman for that matter. I was homeschooled until 6th grade and then was in a private (baptist) school until 10th grade. my sophomore - senior years i did attend a public school. But my whole life ive been different. I was VERY tomboy my whole life. i hated everything feminine. Hated dresses, never once wore makeup, never played with barbies. I didnt like it. When i played house with my friends, i insisted on being "daddy" because that was what i was comfortable with. I never felt comfortable in my female body. When i hit puberty and my body developed, i had a hard time looking myself in the mirror because i just didnt fit. For a long time i identified as lesbian, but even then i was not comfortable. I was very "butch" but still couldnt be comfortable with myself. When i started seeing a therapist for my transition, everything finally started feeling right. I only attended therapy 3 months before i started hormone therapy, because i knew it was what i had to do to be comfortable in my own body. It's the only thing that made me happy. 9 months on testosterone, and you would never know i was born female. I am pre-op. no surgeries thus far, mainly because i am still young and dont have the money at this point in my life for it. However, my goal for 2009 is to have my top surgery completed, if not both. I live my life as a straight male. I have a very supporting girlfriend, as well as my friends who i have adopted as my family. My parents dont accept the change. I'm the baby and the only female born child they had. Ive lost almost my whole relationship with both parents. We still talk on occasion, but it hurts me desperately that i wont be able to take the girl i love home to my parents. I do intend to have a family one day. I want a child or two that i can father. I want to be a daddy one day. But unless my parents can begin to accept my transition, ill never let them meet their grandchildren. And that kills me. It hurts that my parents and brother (even extended family) cant be a part of MY family because they wont accept my transition. I think the mother accepting her daughter as just that is amazing. That child needs all the support she can get because the world, like those doctors, and many of the people reading and writing on this board, cant accept them. I've known more than one transgendered person to commit suicide because of the way they are treated. I dont understand what is so hard about accepting a person for who they really are. If someone met me on the streets, you would have no idea that i was born female. There is nothing female about me, other than my legal documents saying so and my body that i have not yet corrected. I got so emotional, yelling at the tv, watching this episode of dr phil. Maybe some kids do go through a phase. But i know that not everybody does. If a persons gender identity does not align with their sex, they should be able to correct it so they can be as comfortable with themselves as everybody else. Just because most people out there are lucky enough to have their gender and sex align does not mean all of us do. I will never be comfortable in a female body, and i know many more like myself that have to stand by me and support me because so many others ridicule and dont understand.

 

I personally want to thank the mother of this girl for accepting and supporting her. Always stick with it, no matter what people say. Your child needs you now more than she will ever express. And for the others out there that agree, for those whose gender and sex do align, but support those of us that dont, thank you.

 

Without support from outsiders, it would be much harder for someone like myself to transition. It's not an easy thing to live with. But it's something i have to do for myself, something that MUST be done in order for me to live my life comfortably. To live my life at all.

Thank you.

 

For any others debating their gender identity, find a therapist in your area that deals with hormone therapies. sit down and talk to someone. They will help you. So many therapists and psychologists specialize in these areas. There are books out there... There are websites. Myspace has groups for people to meet and talk. for support. I'm in a couple groups on myspace myself. Without the support of my brothers there, it would have been hard to do. People can help you find resources in your area....

 

And Dr Phil, thank you for addressing this. I believe its an issue that is not touched nearly enough in our society today. I can only hope and pray that the world will become more accepting as time goes on.

-Dylan (Dallas, Tx)

 
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January 13, 2009, 2:28 pm PST

Wow!

 The world is full of children and adults of all kinds. I think that to each his own. If you are so lucky to identify a child at the age of two as being transgender, maybe you can brainwash the child to beleive that he or she is not gender confused. As a mother of three, I know that my kids were just interested in doing,feeling,and learning.

 My son is a United States Marine, he played with the girls dolls and the play kitchen, he baked cookies and shot toy guns. He worked on cars with me his mother. Had an absent father, and  very present mother. He wll hug and snuggle with me to this day. He qualified expert marksmanship. All three of the kids had bb guns.

 My girls climbed trees, caught tadpoles and read teen magazines. They are not confused about  who they are.

 I beleive that it is a hormone deficit while pregos, look at what hormones they feed our beef, and pork. The chemicals they spray  our vegtables. It goes on and on.

 
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January 13, 2009, 2:28 pm PST

Gender Confused Children

I have raised two sons, now 23 and 18.  When My youngest was in kindergarden, he had a classmate who fought with his mother every morning because he wanted to wear his sister's clothes (namely dresses and shoes).  One day this mom approached me and asked if I had ever had this problem with my sons.  My answer was no.  I did tell her that perhaps as the child got older, he would outgrow this.  However, he is now 18 and living as young lady.  I think this starts in the womb.  I bought a male barbie for my eldest son when he was under the age of 6.  I found the doll's leg in a pencil sharpener.  Other barbie body parts were scattered around the playroom.  Both my sons were more into trucks and ninjas.  I unwittingly raised homophobic sons.  It had nothing to do with what they were taught by me.  If they would have turned out to be gay. I would have loved them the same. 
 
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January 13, 2009, 2:30 pm PST

gender confusion is a bunch of crap!!!!

god created us all in his image god would never create this. if children were raised in church and taught the bible i dont think this would be an issue. god didnt create this its the work ot the devil.
 

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January 13, 2009, 2:34 pm PST

gender confusion

Oh my gosh, that Tony woman is horrible.  I cannot believe the degree of her rudeness and her smugness.  Just because she disagrees with the experts on the other side of the issue, that is NO excuse for her being so abusive.  She is one of those typical people who cannot stand for anyone to have a different opinion.  All she has accomplished is to make a  TOTAL FOOL of herself. 

 

 
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January 13, 2009, 2:34 pm PST

10/29 Gender Confused Children

OMG, I CANT BELIEVE THAT YOU PEOPLE WOULD LET CHILDREN CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT TO BE FOR THE REST OF THIER LIVES AT SUCH YOUNG AGES. YOU AS PARENTS SHOULD KNOW BETTER AND IF YOU DONT YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT OTHER KIDS AT SCHOOL OR THE PLAYGROUND IS GOING TO PICK ON THAT CHILD. IF YOU WANT TO PLAY A LONG WITH THIS MASS THEN HOME SCHOOL YOU KIDS TO KEEP THAT AWAY FROM MY KIDS AND FAMILY. IT'S NOT RIGHT!!

 
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January 13, 2009, 2:34 pm PST

The other way

If the male brain's nervous system remains female if there is no or not enough testosterone, what happens the other way. What happens to a girl's brain that wants to transform into a boy......thanx
 
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January 13, 2009, 2:36 pm PST

Grieving Process

I understand the "need to grieve" that this mother is going through.  My oldest child came out to me

when he was 16 yrs. old.  Almost 9 years ago.  I knew he was battling with something and when he shared that he was gay, my first reaction was, "Of course you are."  His whole life up to that point passed before my "eyes" and I knew in my heart that this was his truth. Yet, I grieved for the lifestyle I envisioned he would have.  Meeting a woman, marriage, grandchildren.  That was the hardest, grandchildren.  I needed to grieve the "loss" I felt and recognize that my son was the same as he had always been.  He would say to me, "I'm still me!" 

 

AFter 4 sessions with a counselor, and 9 years of acceptance under our belts, we have a great relationship.  He is an adult, through college, working in his field and successful. HE has met a wonderful man whom we adore.  They, together, are the perfect couple.  I would have it no other way, happiness for my son is most important.  He will be able to legally marry someday and grandchildren will follow.

 

Grieving the loss of who you thought your child would become, your dreams for that child is a natural process.  Putting their emotional/physical well-being first is a hard call when dealing with transgender

issues.  I bet if an honest look backwards has taken place, this Mom has seen signs all along her child's life and knows in her heart this is how the Creator made this child.  As a Mom, you know!

 

Support your trans. child. The Creator/God makes no mistakes. Sexual Identity/Orientation are small parts of who we each are.  Embrace the spirit in your child and give unconditional acceptance and support.

 

Grieve for a while, then go on to explore the spirit and enjoy your child.  The Creator/God doesn't give

special children to everyone, only some of us are lucky!!

 

 

 
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January 13, 2009, 2:38 pm PST

The woman needs help

WoW Dr Phil should have not let this rag of a woman go on and on without stopping her mouth.  I don't care what she has gone through, she has no respect for his show or the other guest.  She has such anger issues she needs to resolve herself.  She never shut up and I don't appreciate Dr. Phil letting her run on and on.  Shame on you Dr. Phil.   You should have let the Dr.s speak their mind and also their opinions.  The show ended up being about HER!  Why did you even let others on the show?  It wasn't a fair balance of anyone else but this nut cake of a mom.
 
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