Message Boards

Topic : 11/13 Dr. Phil's Get Real Retreat, Part 3

Number of Replies: 166
New Messages This Week: 0
Last Reply On:
Created on : Friday, November 07, 2008, 02:46:30 pm
Author : DrPhilBoard1
In his bold new series where 14 people get real about their lives, Dr. Phil leads his guests through an exercise that lifts the weight of their burdens off their shoulders. Then, Dr. Phil tells the participants to pair up with a buddy -- someone they can rely on throughout the retreat. When Kelly, whose father committed suicide, partners with Kathleen, who often thinks about taking her own life, Kelly finds her purpose in the retreat and makes a commitment to Kathleen. But will Kathleen accept Dr. Phil’s proposal to keep her safe? Then, it’s an emotional day in the studio as the guests share the heartbreaking moment in their lives when they became a victim. Wade moves the group to tears when he recounts the day his life changed forever. Will the participants find emotional closure on their pasts and take a step toward a healthier future? Join the discussion.

Find out what happened on the show.

As of January, 2009, this message board will become "Read Only" and will be closed to further posting. Please join the NEW Dr. Phil Community to continue your discussions, personalize your message board experience, start a blog and meet new friends.

User Mood
Touched

Message Emote
blank
November 13, 2008, 3:28 pm PST

I'm standing up with Wade

As a woman who was molested by three different men growing up and as a wife who is married to a man who was raped as a young boy, I am standing up with Wade. I wish only that I could have been there on the retreat to wrap my arms around him and let him know that you can heal and you can have a good life.

 

Thanks Dr. Phil for reaching out and helping this one man become whole again!  With love and respect, Amy

 
User Mood
Stressed

Message Emote
angry
November 13, 2008, 3:28 pm PST

I've been there

I was 15 or 16 yrs old when my mother boyfriend raped me over and over again he started with my sister and then with me this went on for a while then one night my mother came home unexpectely and caught him leaving my bedroom, my mother threaten to beat me until I told her what was going on, I was scared to death of her and him because he always told me he would kill my mother if I said anything to anybody. I was watching the show and I felt all of those raw emotions and I still hate that man I hate myself.  Pray for me. God Bless you Wade I would not have been able to do what you did.
 
User Mood
Peaceful

Message Emote
hopeful
November 13, 2008, 3:29 pm PST

True. I'm glad you don't plan to abandon your daughter.

Quote From: thekimber1

Every night when I go to bed I pray for death to take me. I have tried to commit suicide twice but even failed at that. I was in counseling for over six years and got a lot out of it. I have been on countless numbers of antidepressants that work for a while but never more than a few months. I've been hospitalized three times, but nothing seems to help. It is a daily struggle for me to not take a whole bottle of pills, drive off a bridge jump into traffic. One thing I do know for sure is that if I died, my daughter would never recover. The thought of her is what keeps me going even on my darkest days. I could never hurt her like that. Think about the people who love you, get help and live the life God has given you.
Your beautiful post reaching out to another Dr. Phil Website member brought tears to my eyes. You are so right. I miss my mother so much. It is because of how much I miss my mother that for the past five years I have unofficially volunteered to post suicide prevention and other help information on Dr. Phil Website. You may have just found your calling for our growing online support here.

It is because of how much I miss my lost loved ones I hover around here so nobody has to feel the pain I do missing my mother TOO SOON. I'm glad you chose life. I'm glad you see how much would hurt your daughter to lose you. True. Suicide is not a way of coping. It is a way of not coping falling for the lies of depression... Yes, I'm so glad you chose life... for your daughter... for YOU.

There was a study of those non-responsive to anti-depressants and walking daily helped because a natural mood elevator since raises endorphin level and oxygenates the brain. Shallow breathing has been linked to anxiety, panic and depression.

Scroll down at first link and begin reading at HOME CARE:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003213.htm

HOUROFPOWER.ORG has 24 hour New Hope and Teen Hope online counselors

www.newhopenow.org/counseling/liveperson.html

714NEWTEEN 714-639-8336

714NEWHOPE 714-639-4673

Unless you have unlimited minutes it may cost to call above numbers.

Scroll down at first link and begin reading at HOME CARE:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003213.htm

CHRISTMAS 2002
Remembering mother in 2006

Mother hugged me as if
it would be the last Christmas she ever would hug me
and it was


 

Message Emote
hopeful
November 13, 2008, 3:31 pm PST

My thoughts to Wade

Quote From: aubie1969

I, too, was a victim of molestation.  I was molested when I was 7 or 8 years old.  I told an adult about it and they in turn told my mom.  My mom blamed me for it and I got a belt whipping for it.  Then the boy's father molested me because he knew I would be too afraid to tell anyone again.  I have had a lot of anger at the world because of this. 

 

Wade, I am so sorry that you too had to endure such pain in your life. Many of us cried watching you recap the event that changed your life for a long time. Although I am a female, my memories go as far back as five, and what others do not understand is that it stay apart of your life, if you don't get the help that you need. I applaud you for standing up and taking that step that I don't think that I would be so brave to take.

 

I just hope that one day I can have your courage to do the same, because what started happening to me at the age of five has escalated into many things over the many years of my life. I know I have a lot of work to do.

 

You Wade, on the other hand, are looking at possibly a new place to start in life. An opportunity to move forward beyond the walls that have held you back. A chance to LIVE....

 

Shaunna

 
User Mood
Depressed

Message Emote
blank
November 13, 2008, 3:35 pm PST

11/13 Dr. Phil's Get Real Retreat, Part 3

Quote From: grumpygizmo1

Hi, my name is Catherine...and I am at the end of my rope.. I cant seem to pick myself up and get on my with my life. I am an alcoholic and a drug addict..and have been since I was a young teenager..I am now almost 22 and cant hold down a job cant live with my parents, my car is about to be repoed and im behind on my insurance. I cant come to terms with the decisions I have made that have gotten me here. I have dropped out of school, im in credit card debt. My parents have closed there doors and wallets to make sure they arent enabling me.. because they know if they give me any money I will immediately go to the bar... and drink my problems away. My life sucks and alot has to do with the things that happened to me as a child..I didnt have a bad childhood it was just rough.. the fighting the leaving the screaming..the abuse..from my stepdad..the divorce...the drugs and alcohol made me feel better, and I soon became and addict by the time I was 12...and was up to a pack of cigerattes since I was 14..When will anything get any better..how to I get out of the hole I have dug for myself. I am never going to get married who wants a fat, overbearing pycho with bad credit no job or soon to be no car? Most people my age are doing things right having fun and potentially with the person they might marry...No of this will happen for me and I know it..the bad part this past year...has been the worst..since my son died..every one of my friends has had kids and they have all been boys I cant even go to a baby shower or babysit because it is just to much to handle I havent been able to deal with the death of my son..I was only 24 weeks, but the bond I had with my child happened the minute I found out I was pregnant and it never went away. I am fighting my inner demons and they are winning because  I am ready to give up...I have no money no life..no dreams or hopes.. I have nothing but a pile of failure... I dont know what to do? Any suggestions?

Catherine~ Is there a State counselor or official you can talk to who could help you with your finances, like schedule a budget plan for you, most states have programs to help you with your finances and guide you to a way of better life.

For your addicitions, I too was addicted to a drug, Cocaine (not by choice, but although it was forced in my marriage, I did do it)  and have been sober for about 8 years now. For your addictions have you thought about possibly going to rehab or going to a health facility? Or I am not sure of your religion, you could also go to a church and look for help from a priest or just from God. My faith has been an inspiring recovery plan for me.

There is always help out there. With all I have been through in my life from neglect, rapes, molestation, abortion, miscarriages, abuse (verbal and physical), I used to use it as a means for attention because I didn't know how to cope or how to deal with it, but after therapy with my past issues I learned to look for help and there are many out there going through what you are to eventually find a way out. Our choices are made by ourselves and at times we need to ask for help, as hard as it is.

We all feel at times our life sucks, I too felt and at times feel that way, but we are "here" and be thankful you are. You have this one life and deserve to be living it to your fullest. Reliving my horrid times since I was a child was the hardest thing I ever did in my life, although I have new trials to overcome, I too have to deal with them and am having a hard time doing it, but I know God has something in store for me, he does for everyone and I refuse to give up like I almost did so many times in taking my life. You just need to start making better choices, but it all starts with healing within yourself and getting the help you truly need. Don't do what I did so long ago at your age and fall in that ditch and never get out. Eventually there is that "one" person or persons who are there for help. There is "always" a place to turn, it is just taking action on making that difference for yourself.  If you need anyone to talk to, my e-mail is on my profile and would be happy to just talk. I hope you are safe and hope you can find solice in some stage, just remember please, you aren't alone......God bless

 
User Mood
Depressed

Message Emote
quiet
November 13, 2008, 3:41 pm PST

I couldn't believe how much I could relate to this show

I was sexually abused at 14 by my 18 year old "boyfriend". It has haunted me every day since. I broke up with him soon after but it still comes back to me every time I see a show like this or hear someone talk about abuse. I know it's not as serious as being raped, but I still can't believe how much it hurts. I just need to let go. It was four years ago. I'm hoping this show will help but so far all it's done is make me cry. lol
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
November 13, 2008, 3:42 pm PST

11/13 Dr. Phil's Get Real Retreat, Part 3

Wade,

Anti-depressants have kept me from crying for years and although I take my medication regularly I cried harder today than I have in years.  I have been there just like you and I heard you today with my heart.  Age 6 was my first real memory of molestation and then I tried to eat away my fears and frustration.  Growing up in a religious family and listening to the teachings of forgiveness always made me feel so unworthy of anything.  I tried therapy but was great at telling the therapist just what she wanted to hear and to move on.  I did make some strides but I still feel I have spent most of my life waiting to wake up from this horrible nightmare. 

I was feeling confident at about 21 years old and I got a job at a hospital.  I was so excited since it was my first full-time job.  I was told I had to have a physical and I nearly quit.  I knew this would require a complete female physical and I didn't know how I could handle it since I protected myself and vowed I would never be molested or raped again.  I asked for the only female physician and was told she does not do employee physicals since she was an obgyn and despite avoiding making an appointment it was made for me.

I went to the appt, with a male dr., and decided this is it. I'm going to be honest and tell him I just couldn't do the pap exam because I wasn't comfortable and had been molested as a child.  I told him I had never told anyone in my family and I didn't think I could go through with the physical.  This next part you won't believe, he was aggravated with me! after my confession, he looked at me with that rolled eye expression and said, "Do you think you can handle a breast exam?"  I was immediately 6 years old again and I cried through the whole exam.  Worse yet, after the exam he told me to get dressed and wrote up the chart, then said take this to the front and handed the chart to me over his shoulder.  I was devasted, he didn't even look at me to hand me the chart.  I was so ashamed with myself.

I did start therapy shortly after that incident but it didn't really help. 

 

Your speech today touched me and showed me "I am not alone"  I've never been alone and we can get past this type of horrific event.  I can't wait to see next week's show because I want to see you progress and I want to hear what Dr. Phil says to inspire you.

You have inspired me again to wake up and live my life without fear, without memories haunting me, and to become that person the really really believes they see and stop hiding behind the facade.

Thank you,

 
User Mood
Stressed

Message Emote
frustrated
November 13, 2008, 3:53 pm PST

Legal Abuse Syndrome

         Like many others, I suffer from Legal Abuse Syndrome.  While I have contacted many tv talk shows about doing this as a segment, none have yet responded. 

         Legal Abuse Syndrome is a psycholegal trauma (a form of post traumatic stress disorder), which often develops in individuals assaulted by ethical violations, legal abuses, betrayals, and fraud. Abuse of power and authority and a profound lack of accountability in our courts have become rampant. This adds greatly to the original distress requiring court assistance in the first place.

          This stress can and does lead to physical illness. AMA statistics shows that around 85% of all physical illness is directly attributable to stress. Legal Abuse Syndrome is a public health menace in this country; it leads to massive medical intervention costs, burdens insurance companies significantly, and adds to Medicare and Social Security costs. Legal Abuse Syndrome is detrimental to all of society, and nobody is immune.

          Whatever the court setting, whether it is regarding divorce, child custody, parental support, probate matters, personal injury, property disputes, legal or medical malpractice, criminal charges or other deeply personal issues, the frauds put forth in our courts add greatly to the trauma. When litigants are unable to get fair resolution to their issues, when the court dysfunction further adds to the litigant's burden, when no amount of actual case law compels an equitable outcome, litigants suffer often disabling levels of stress. When further attempts to achieve redress fail, litigants display the hallmark signs of Legal Abuse Syndrome. Victims of legal abuse syndrome typically jump when a phone or doorbell rings, check obsessively to see if windows and doors are locked and try to avoid anything that reminds them of the legal system. In severe cases, physical problems arise: High blood pressure, chronic fatigue and heart attacks.

          Legal Abuse Syndrome is when you feel deeply disillusioned and oppressed as a result of your experience with the legal system; if you feel you were frustrated in obtaining justice; if you feel your dreams and plans for life were torn from you by a system that is supposedly there to protect your rights; if you fear that the system will defeat you at every turn and there is nothing you can do about is, and if you feel that you have been victimized several times over, by the perpetrators, judges, and other court personnel. As a consequence you may suffer from tension and anxiety, recurring nightmares, you may feel emotionally and physically exhausted, numb, disconnected, and vulnerable.

          Even as I am  typing this, I wonder if I will ever get justice, since I have had to endure these violations/victimizations for over 4 years. The Judges mockery of what the court system lead a person to believe in has taken its toll on me. Emotionally, I have  been on a roller coaster that takes severe anxiety and tension turns and aggravates my mood and non insulin dependant type 2 diabetes. Sleep wise, I toss and turn and wake up numerous times a night wondering if I included the right information on the cases (since I am not an attorney nor do I have an attorney representing me), did I omit something from my writings, will I ever get fair justice, will said Defendants ever be held civilly and criminally liable for their illegal, disrespective, and unethical tactics toward me. There have even been times when I have  awoken in the middle of the night, in a cold sweat, from a nightmare where these Judges threw me in jail as a way of their retaliation against me.

          For the last 10+ years, my life has been in what can only be considered similar to a coma state. The first nearly 6 years was hindered by what University Medical Center of Southern Nevada (see U. S. District Court Case # CV-S-04-00679 and 9th Circuit Court Case # 04-16825) and Allstate Financial Services (see U. S. District Court Case # CV-S-05-05250-KJD and 9th Circuit Court Case # 06-16259), the defendants in the 2 cases that I was discriminated against by the Judges. The last 4 years of my life were even further crushed and consumed by Judges and a Judicial System, and government that lies each and every time that they utter "the scales of justice are balanced are balanced."

          Even 20 years after losing a lawsuit, some people who suffer from legal abuse syndrome still carry a suitcase of old legal papers around, desperately hoping someone will help them find justice.

          I recently found out that U. S. District Court Judge Kent Dawson (KJD) never disclosed a connection (direct and/or indirect) that Judge Dawson had with the Defendant in my case  against Allstate Financial Services dba Allstate Adjustment Bureau (a corrupt collection agency hired by University Medical Center of Southern Nevada (UMC).  Senator Harry Reid got Kent Dawson appointed as U. S. District Court Judge.  Senator Reid has a son (Rory Reid) a Clark County Commissioner and UMC Board of Trustee member.  Rory Reid voted to keep

Allstate as the corrupt collection agency for UMC.  Yet through out my case, presided over by Judge Dawson, never did Judge Dawson disclose the connection.

          A very close firend of mine, who currently has a case in the U. S. District Court is being victimized and having his rights violated by Judge Dawson, all because of Judge Dawson's vendetta against me, for going public and speaking out about all of this.

          Unless there is a stop to Judges who commit these discriminatory, unconstitutional, treasonous action, there will be more and more victims, and each will suffer from Legal Abuse Syndrome.

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
sad
November 13, 2008, 4:02 pm PST

Don't do it...

Quote From: deathisnear

I have no reason to live. I have made my decision to leave this life. Looking at complete past to now I see the hand I was dealt, as well as bad choices made, I've decided that there is no reason to go on any further. I am mentally and physically drained and empty. I just pray that God will accept me for the flaws within me considering that this was how I was created and turned out to be. Hope to see you, as well as be seen on the other side.
Please, whatever you do, don't commit suicide! There are plenty of reasons for you to live. You got to give it another shot, & not give up! I have to agree with the other posters on here. Fight hard, I know you can do it & overcome your sadness if you will just give this world another chance. Always remember, you're never alone. May God bless you!
 
User Mood
Depressed

Message Emote
blank
November 13, 2008, 4:03 pm PST

11/13 Dr. Phil's Get Real Retreat, Part 3

Quote From: justme2008

I was sexually abused at 14 by my 18 year old "boyfriend". It has haunted me every day since. I broke up with him soon after but it still comes back to me every time I see a show like this or hear someone talk about abuse. I know it's not as serious as being raped, but I still can't believe how much it hurts. I just need to let go. It was four years ago. I'm hoping this show will help but so far all it's done is make me cry. lol

Everones issues are just as intense....My doctor once told me after I had date rape incident that no matter what "NO MEANS NO". They cross the line once that is pushed aside. So your trial is just as serious. And no matter what, It isn't your fault, something I had to tell myself so many times with everything I have endeared in life. I look in the mirror everyday and ask why, put my head in my hands and just at times want to fade away, but yet I look at my "NEW" life that God is storing for me and I know I can' t leave these people who love me so much, but most importantly, I am not ready to give up on "me" and that has been the hardest thing I have now said ever in my life.................

When I saw these episodes it made me look back to my therapy sessions and what I relived, I could relate so much to these people, I love the phase that Dr Phil is doing with these special loving individuals and hands down, I am proud of Wade for having the strength to relive what he has to start his new life.

Just remember, no matter the circumstance, everones problems are equal, no ones problems are stronger than anyones. I can relate to your story and I still to this day blame myself for all the rapes I dealt with, especially with my ex husband after the divorce was final. It haunts me to this day. It isn't easy to just let go, to let go you relive, pour it out and scream and then.........................................release. I still to this day relive that and that was 4 years ago and my abortion was when I was 20 and I am now 35 and that is something I live with all my days in life and can't let it go even though my therapist tried and tried.......I still to this day blame myself although no one allowed me to have the choice in my life, but it was done and now here I am.....................

Crying is releasing and is a positive way of release, crying is good. If that is what it takes for your start of closure is that really a bad thing? Dr Phil helped me through the suicidal attempts I had all because of a teenagers letter to dr phil, if I hadn't read that story; her story was exact as mine, not to a tee, but close; I probably wouldn't be here today. I thank God for Dr Phil everyday.

Remember you always have people here and always have people praying for you that know how it is to feel the way you do.

I wish you nothing but closure and a beautiful future. God bless you

 
First | Prev | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | Next | Last