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(Original Air Date: 11/18/08) Dieters know how hard it is to shed five or 10 pounds. What do you do when you need to lose 100 pounds … and you’re just 10 years old? Dr. Phil talks to parents who say they can’t get their child to stop eating, and they fear this food addiction could turn deadly. Luz’s daughter, Kayla, is just 5 years old, but she already tips the scales at 113 pounds. Luz says her child throws temper tantrums when she doesn’t eat, and she once screamed so loudly for junk food, her neighbors called the police! Does Kayla have an eating disorder, or is Luz enabling her? Dr. Jim Sears, co-host of the hit show The Doctors, gives this mom a wake-up call. Then, Stephanie says her 3-year-old daughter, SaJatta, is addicted to sausage and grits. The toddler weighs 88 pounds and gets winded just walking up the stairs in her house. SaJatta’s grandmother, Mary, says the little girl is spoiled, and she doesn’t know how to say no to her. What do the results from SaJatta's blood work reveal? Can the family conquer her obesity? Plus, Mary says her daughter, Brittany, was an active child until she broke her ankle five years ago. Now at age 10, Brittany weighs 190 pounds, and her folks say she’s turned into a couch potato. How can Mary and her husband, Roger, motivate the child to lose weight? Fitness trainer Robert Reames has a surprise for the family! Talk about the show here.

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November 20, 2008, 11:11 pm PST

My Child can't stop eating

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These kids seem to have extreme over eating issues. Have they been tested for Prader Willie Syndrome? I have worked with people with this syndrome and it is controllable, but it would be easier to start controlling it at this young age.

I need to address the Prader Willi Syndrome issue.

Yes, there are many who are out there with PWS, but the management would be the same thing. Who buys the food to allow this to happen.  Just cause the 'mom might want to eat' what she deemed the child could not have--sorry, I would absolutely have to slap her on that one. 

 

My little brother was born with Prader Willi in 1958.  Heaven knows it was not on the medical books at that time.  But he received a close DX a few months down the road. Mom saw a program on TV and thought--that looks like Alan.  So doctors checked things out and wow--said we were dealing with a cerebral palsy child.  Well, at least we know what we were dealing with.  His true DX came about age 13.  Symptoms are so close that it takes a chomosome testing to verify the difference at young ages.

 

"It is estimated that one in 12,000 to 15,000 people has PWS. Although considered a "rare" disorder, Prader-Willi syndrome is one of the most common conditions seen in genetics clinics and is the most common genetic cause of obesity that has been identified. PWS is found in people of both sexes and all races."

 

But of dx of CP did not hurt my brother, we did the OT/PT, did not make him special BUT made him one of us. He had mild retardation as well. Who knows, maybe that was part of the birth process, etc where that developed.  All PWs do not show mild retardation. Some show an autistic side, again, we don't know how much is evolved.  Each PW has their own unique set of characteristics that come with the story. He had a memory to be challenged, never forgot anyone he ever met, reminded me of RAINMAN movie.

We got him moved from SD to MN into a waivered group home which then led to his own house with a house mom and 3 other guys to share it. 24 hour coverage is necessary as well as nutrition education for all, but esp the PW.  Food is kept up and away. Alan was the only PW in his house, but he respected the others. He had part of buying and cooking the meals, knowing what he was allowed to eat, also knowing what he WANTED to eat.

One thing with PW, too many people think they are doing a favor by slipping the child the cookie, etc. Although it changed with times, it still happens. Someone undermines the program. Yes, one slip up DOES count.

A PW's food pyramid is built differently than a normal person. The metabolism is not the same. They can function on about half the calories and still gain weight so it is important the the food bulk is there, just not the calories and carbs.  A PW must always have their food regulated. Choices are given, but within a realm of reason.

My brother seems stuck in puberty into his 40s and so the doctors decided to add some hormones that he missed through his teen years.  I did not like this at all, I was not his guardian, Mom was. We won't know but Alan died Aug 2007 of a quickly onset of cancers.  Lung, lymph nodes, liver, colon.  My brother was monthly medically looked at by some medical care. You'd think someone would have caught this. He was put on a diabetic diet counting carbs and this was really working as his diet control. Until he started complaining about being cold all the time, so they went in. Within a week, we had the full dxes and 7 weeks later, we had his funeral. 

What I am grateful for is the fact the doctors and social workers looked at my brother and explained things to him, he looked at them, asked questions about surgery, being cured, and then told them he wanted no treatment. This was most difficult on my (elderly) parents and his house mother of 10 years. But we believe the words were the Lord's, not Alan's and there were indeed plans for Alan.  For 49 1/2 years he was ours, and the Lord took him home. We went to hospice immediately to make sure all was fine as we could make it. He asked not to be moved to the hospital for any reason. We met all of his wishes as he asked for them. The hardest was when Alan turned down food.  Any food. That was 2 weeks prior to his death. He would ask for fresh caught fish to be fixed, we did it. Anything. But his greatest wish was to have the same 50th birthday party he had attended for each of his sisters (3). So we planned the biggest and best party with family, friends, staff. He ordered what he wanted to eat, did not touch a bite. He was surrounded by us all, he smiled and took it all in. He died 2 weeks later.  This is it in a nutshell, but he filled our lives with so much love and memories.  We took the best care of him all his life. We gave him opportunities to live away from home to have his own life. He was a sibling in all sense of the word. An equal.

Now that we know more about PW, it can be dxed faster and more accurate. But the families have to follow through with the care required.  Not all obese children have PW, but all PWs were obese children.

No matter which, they are our future. Obesity is not just a child's disease, but it will shorten their lives if we don't take care of it.

Schools reducing required gym time, recess time, budget cuts, families depending on quick fast drive through meals instead of spending a litle time reading labels, buy the healthier foods. I grow alot in my garden. My granddaughters and I often "eat breakfast" in the garden--take a basket and graze. Teaching proper nutrition is one thing, you must follow through with it.  If it is not healthy, do not buy it or allow it in the house. You may crave what you see on TV or magazine/cook book, but that will pass.

 

Thank you for listening.  Alan's sister

 

 
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November 21, 2008, 9:25 am PST

HEHEHE!!

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 LOL gen, wha happened??

But I agree totally with all you said, make it FUN! !!!!!!! Get everybody in on the gig, family, fun time...lol....

I dunno wha happened! (hehehe) Glitch, maybe??

Anyway, you know how i got this idea was because my daughter was n dance but son had decided against continuing on with Karate and wanted to try a team sport (which he had been reluctant about for yrs). Anyway, we missed the registration deadline for soccer last season so had to find a way to fill his time until football rolled around.

So I made up a day called "Dad and Son sport day," where my hubby had to take my son and do something..anything....with him for a few hours---a few times a week. Well they played football, basketball, went to a driving range to hit golf balls, tennis, bowling--every week was different. Not only was it fun to try all the new things for my son, but he CHANGED DRAMATICALLY once he started spending this quality fun time wiht just him and dad. Then, I started taking a day with just him and I. I'm a hiker so we took nature walks and bike rides. This time wiht us has done wonders for him.

He started his football just yesterday and did SO WELL just because his dad took the time to play with him (he'd never played before!). He had confidence in himself, wasn't embarrassed around the other kids, and had a great time!

Anyway, it is a tested and true method that I highly recommend!
 
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November 22, 2008, 9:35 am PST

11/18 “My Child Can’t Stop Eating”

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    Thats a good point. All that food they are eating is nothing but JUNK. Whats worse is that they eat that stuff too many times in a day.  The parents support it. They feed them all this Junk. They are practically killing their own children.Those Capri Suns are just as bad as soda with the sugar and syrup. Sodas not good for you or children either. Its a shame one big thing that was lacking in these kids diet was fruit and vegetables

Capri Sun does have two no-sugar-added apple and mixed-fruit juices. It says "no high fructose corn syrup" the rest of their products. And, it also says "25% less sugar than" other brands.
Yet, sugar is still the second ingredient. But, why add sugar to fruit juice? It's sweet enough as is.
Sunny D makes the same "25% less sugar" claim for their products. Yet, they still use high fructose corn syrup. I wonder how many parents unwittingly continue buying this junk because they take their "less sugar" claim at face value. Rather than read the ingredient list.
But, while pure  juice is better than the sweetened kind, whole fruit is best. It's got fiber and satisfies hunger better than juice does.
 
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November 23, 2008, 1:41 pm PST

Let's find out What is making them eat

I am interested in this topic because when my daughter was little her life seemed to revolve around food.  I wonder why these kids always want to eat and what makes them constantly hungry.  Since my daughter was on ritalin for ADHD it supressed her appitite enough so that she wasn't obese as a young child.  Now that she is older, it has caught up with her and she is obese.

It is very difficult when you have a family with all types of food likes and dislikes to keep everyone happy.   I have an active son who hardly eats all day and then pigs out all night long.  He is very strong and weight appropriate.  As my daughter reached her teens and began picking her own food choices, as she left the house and went out with friends, my control ended.  This is when all her weight began to add up.  What will happen to these kids once they are on their own.  I think we need to look at why food is so important to them. 

Keep in mind that no matter what you keep in the house, if food is an issue, the child will find quantity and eat it, unless we figure out what is making them so hungry.

 

I have often thought of writing to Dr. Phil but now that my daughter is a young adult, I guess she has to figure this out for herself.  She doesn't seem to let it bother her, and seems to be happy.  If anyone has any suggestions please comment.  Just to let you know, the rest of the family is healthy and average weight.

 
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November 24, 2008, 9:21 am PST

11/18 “My Child Can’t Stop Eating”

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    Thats a good point. All that food they are eating is nothing but JUNK. Whats worse is that they eat that stuff too many times in a day.  The parents support it. They feed them all this Junk. They are practically killing their own children.Those Capri Suns are just as bad as soda with the sugar and syrup. Sodas not good for you or children either. Its a shame one big thing that was lacking in these kids diet was fruit and vegetables

Apparently, Capri Sun has stopped using high fructose corn syrup to sweeten their fruit drinks. They've got two no-sugar-added items. And, on the rest, they boast "25% less sugar than" other brands. But, they still add sugar. Why? Isn't fruit juice sweet enough?
Sunny D makes the same "25 % less sugar" claim. But, do they sweeten theirs with sugar? Nope. They still use high fructose corn syrup.
And, there are bottled fruit juices blended with pomegranate. Boasting "excellent source of antioxidants"  on the front. Yet, if you bother to turn the bottle around and read the label, you'll see that even these products are sweetened with high fructose corn syrup.
According to Dr Sears, high fructose corn syrup is a major cause of inflammation. And, antioxidants are supposed to prevent inflammation. So, why sweeten antioxidant rich fruit juice with a well known cause of inflammation?
It would behoove everyone to actually read the ingredients. Instead of blindly trusting the "excellent source of" and "25% less sugar" claims.

 
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November 24, 2008, 10:32 am PST

11/18 “My Child Can’t Stop Eating”

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I am interested in this topic because when my daughter was little her life seemed to revolve around food.  I wonder why these kids always want to eat and what makes them constantly hungry.  Since my daughter was on ritalin for ADHD it supressed her appitite enough so that she wasn't obese as a young child.  Now that she is older, it has caught up with her and she is obese.

It is very difficult when you have a family with all types of food likes and dislikes to keep everyone happy.   I have an active son who hardly eats all day and then pigs out all night long.  He is very strong and weight appropriate.  As my daughter reached her teens and began picking her own food choices, as she left the house and went out with friends, my control ended.  This is when all her weight began to add up.  What will happen to these kids once they are on their own.  I think we need to look at why food is so important to them. 

Keep in mind that no matter what you keep in the house, if food is an issue, the child will find quantity and eat it, unless we figure out what is making them so hungry.

 

I have often thought of writing to Dr. Phil but now that my daughter is a young adult, I guess she has to figure this out for herself.  She doesn't seem to let it bother her, and seems to be happy.  If anyone has any suggestions please comment.  Just to let you know, the rest of the family is healthy and average weight.

The over-eating kids Dr Phil has had on his show are usually eating foods with highly addictive ingredients. Especially fried foods. And, those sweetened with high fructose corn syrup. Even though a few products, such as Capri Sun fruit juices, Thomas English muffins, and one Nabisco snack item, are no longer sweetened with HFCS, almost everything else is. This, according to Dr Sears, cause inflammation. It's also highly addictive. So are fried foods. That's why so many kids are scarfing down chicken strips and fries. And, washing them down with Coke and Pepsi. Some of these kids are average weight. Or, even skinny. But, are they healthy?
 
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November 24, 2008, 11:00 am PST

Some don't deserve to be parents

It is truly sad that you need a license to get married, drive or even catch a fish, but not to bear children.

These mothers are letting their children stuff their face with junk and then tearfully claim they don't know why their kids are gaining weight and  the tantrums their kids throw to manipulate them into giving them what they want.  That is unbelievably stupid!!!   We have a generation of gutless, clueless parents who have no idea that THEY must be the ones in charge. I weep for the world.

 
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November 24, 2008, 1:49 pm PST

11/18 “My Child Can’t Stop Eating”

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It is truly sad that you need a license to get married, drive or even catch a fish, but not to bear children.

These mothers are letting their children stuff their face with junk and then tearfully claim they don't know why their kids are gaining weight and  the tantrums their kids throw to manipulate them into giving them what they want.  That is unbelievably stupid!!!   We have a generation of gutless, clueless parents who have no idea that THEY must be the ones in charge. I weep for the world.

Many of these children are simply following in their mothers' footsteps. Dr Phil has been having obese children on the show since his first season. And, I've yet to see one of these children who didn't have at least one obese parent. And, sometimes the obesity spans several generations. On this most recent show, the three-year-old who ate sausage and grits had, not only an obese mother, but an obese grandmother as well.
 
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November 30, 2008, 6:50 am PST

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Capri Sun does have two no-sugar-added apple and mixed-fruit juices. It says "no high fructose corn syrup" the rest of their products. And, it also says "25% less sugar than" other brands.
Yet, sugar is still the second ingredient. But, why add sugar to fruit juice? It's sweet enough as is.
Sunny D makes the same "25% less sugar" claim for their products. Yet, they still use high fructose corn syrup. I wonder how many parents unwittingly continue buying this junk because they take their "less sugar" claim at face value. Rather than read the ingredient list.
But, while pure  juice is better than the sweetened kind, whole fruit is best. It's got fiber and satisfies hunger better than juice does.
     I don't know much about Capri Suns cause I don't really drink those. I think that fruit juices are naturally sweet and if they want to make them sweeter what better way than to add more sugar. I'm not a pro about nutrition facts. Sugar is still sugar. When it says 25% less sugar there is still sugar in the drink just not as much. Some drinks will have this on the label strictly because it makes for good advertisement and encouraging people to buy.
 
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December 1, 2008, 11:02 pm PST

Another Approach

I think a lot of these kids starved to death in a previous life.  1 of my granddaughters was like this.  She was grabbing food like crazy.  I sat her on my lap (facing away from me) and whispered to her "not to worry.  In this life she would have plenty to eat and she was going to have a great life.".  I asked God to take away any part of her past life and that it be absolved into the white light of the holy spirit.  
In my granddaughters case, this worked. 
It's worth a try. 
For an older child, this should be done when they are falling asleep.  They should be laying down.  Place your hand on their heart and say the above quote...
Your Welcome....
 
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