Topic : 07/03 School Discipline: Out of Control?

We will never send our granddaughter w/autism to public school.  Understaffed and overcrowded and a disgraceful use of teachers.  Burn them out and underpay them.  I can't see another dime going overseas to assist other countries when our own children and our most vulnerable children are not funded appropriately.  It is a disgrace.  Good principals and teachers take care of the children with and without parental interest.  I'm humbled by what you do, I don't have the emotion or the strength to do it. 

Dr. Phil,

I have a few things to say in regards to bullying.

I am currently a student in my 3rd year at a university in Ontario, Canada. My reason for schooling, is to become a teacher... for these exact reasons that were brought up on Dr. Phil today. I feel certain people have things about them, that make them great teachers. Growing up, I was never bullied, but sad to say that my friends were the ones doing the bullying. To this day, even back then (which is why I am surprised I wasnt bullied) I was always the first person to step in if my "friends" were bullying someone. I usually stopped it, and was first to notice it. For that reason, even to this day if i see someone who i went to highschool with, I know i have no enemies (id like to think at least). Now Im not trying to boost my self or anything, Im just saying... this is my exact reason for schooling... to end bullying.  one person commented on the board [loacted at the bottom of this post]

Now Im not trying to bash what you are saying, because I know plenty of teachers I can imagine going home upset every night... but its part of the perfession. You need to be able help these children. That is the point of teaching. If you show these children that you are being upset by what they are doing they will contiue.. I mean, it might get worse, but once you give up power to a student then they just keep going. I am in a lot of psychology classes, and student behavior is a major focus. So you just need to dicipline them properly, and dont give up. Teachers have the most imporatnt jobs I would say.. So if there are any other teachers out there reading this... I am hoping to implement a peace education program through North America where children can learn the effects of bullying, and what is going on in the world. So any teachers out there, take time out of your day with those children and teach them valuable life lessons... about children who are suffering eles where in the world, so hopefully you can catch the attnetion of those bullies, and they can understand that what they are doing is wrong. I dont know how to explain this over a messsage board, but children just need to be more educated, and relaize how valuable a humans life is, along with their "feelings".

:)

"peace" (and i say that as in peace on earth)

p.s. also, someone mentioned something about disabled children recieving proper education in ONLY AMERICA (U..S). iwent to an elementary school and highschool with a great communitiy living center which placed children in class rooms who had disablilties but also taught them in their own forms of learning. I never EVER (and im not naive to it) have seen a child with a disability bullied. Maybe its just where I am from, and my highschool had over 2,000 students in it...I saw other children bullied (no excuse for it) but no one with a disability, they were highly respected and people tried to help them  fit in... and disablities such as downsyndrom, attention disorders, autism... etc).

Quote From: trayninja

After watching this show today I was extremely angry!!!

ALL you seemed to care about was how the teachers were treating the students!

BUT WHAT ABOUT HOW THE KIDS TREAT THE TEACHERS!!! We take SOOOO much crap for it's it's not even funny!!! Days and days would go by when I'd come home in tears or even have to leave the room becasue of how these children act! The parents shouldn't be mad at the teachers, they should RAISE BETTER CHILDREN!!!

I'm a 19 year old girl and I am still in high school, graduating this year. I know I am not in the U.S.A. but i know that not only people down there get bullied. My family and I were bullied so bad as kids we picked up and moved because my mother and father could not take another day of one of there kids coming home crying over what happened in school. They were tired of going to the school and trying to get the teachers to do something about it, nothin ever happened. The teachers I can remember were mean and rude to us, I do not really remember other kids becuse when we moved I was 8 or 9. We were never liked, everyone hated us then. I guess it was because there was so many kids. See, i come from a family of 10, we as a family are very close. We all are growing up sense then and we are all very happy but it hurts and I wish it never happened to my family. We all understand that what happened helped to make us who we are today, together as a family we got though it and grew into great people.

As I was watching this show all the feelings I had back then came back with a force I can't even being to explain. I wanted to cry about why I was the person everyone picked on. I started to cry  when I heard about the 14 year old that killed himself and I am so sorry to his family. I cant say I understand how you feel because it never happened to me.

I'm much happier where I am know. There is about 77 students in my school and we all talk to each other,  I wouldn't say we are all friends because I know different but it's ok because no one gets picked on the way I was and thats great no one has to go though what I did when I was a kid.

Thanks for reading

You friend Kate

To all the teachers out there who think that beating kids, or yelling at them in front of there peers don't help them. It makes them want to do it all the more to make you mad and to make you leave the room. I think that anyone that thinks this is right shouldn't be a teacher. Teachers and students can be friends and understand that each other has something to do in the class rooms. I think that yes, if someone is acting up and misbehaving kid them out of the class but don't yell at them, tell them that they will get the work they need but not to come back because you can't teacher with them acting up. 

I am making absolutely no excuses for the extreme situations that have happened in this show.  I have to admit that I am a middle school teacher.  Our school district had conferences with parents last night.  I can honestly tell you that the parents that I needed to talk to most, didn't bother showing up.  

I also come from a school that has met AYP!.  I the past, I usually put a string of lights up in my room.  This year, I haven't yet even found the time.  I earned a four year degree and I get paid less people who work without a degree.  I qualify for food stamps on my salary.  Thank God I married a great man who actually can support us.   

Here's my perspective.  Teachers are supposed to teach their subject material.  Aren't PARENTS supposed to teach character and values?  There isn't enough time in the day to teach kids the importance of why they should be nice to each other and the curriculum. I gave a kid a detention because she was tripping another student as they were walking down the stairs.  Even in giving this kid the detention, she did not see why what she did was wrong.  Kids do what they can get away with.  Then I talk to the parent ,  I can see very well see why the kid is so messed up.  Apples don't fall very far from the tree.

I can talk lots more about this subject .  Don't be so quick to judge.  Look at our society.  Kids are raising themselves.  In case you didn't know, we're at war and our country is in a depression.  Things are going to get worse before they get better. 

SIncerely, A teacher who is looking very forward to christmas break.