Topic : 02/26 Octuplets' Mom Talks to Dr. Phil, Part 2

Dr Phil, she "admits" it was a mistake??  Getting pregnant because of a one-night stand is a "mistake".  Planning, paying for and executing the implanting of a pile of embryo's is way more than a mistake. This woman not only needs psychiatric evaluation, but she also needs to be sterilized FOR GOOD. There is no possible way that this woman can provide proper care for all these children and any sane person would have known that, not to mention that no woman in her right mind would run off to add to her brood through the means that she went through when she currently has 6 mouths to feed!  What I'd like to know is where is the outrage at the doctor who thought that this was a good idea to help this woman into the position that she is in?  I never once heard Dr. Phil mention that this Dr. Whacko should take any blame or responsibility.  How about letting this doctor foot some of the medical as well as child rearing bills, and also future college expenses since he didn't even think it was necessary to evaluate whether she was even mentally or physically capable to care for all of these children he enabled her to have.   There seems to be more guidelines & restrictions in place for adopting a dog from a shelter than in bringing babies into this world!    How is it that to adopt a dog from many shelters, one must provide information about the vet they'll be taking them to, if your yard is fenced, and a host of other questions may be requested of the adopter. Many times there is even a home visit by the shelter to determine if the adopter is qualified.  Should not the doctor who has this enormous responsibility over making these new lives possible (implanting embryos), at least make a house call to see if this prospective mother even has a place to bring these babies home to?? Which she doesn't.  Now they will all be added to the burdon of the tax payers, no?  This whole thing is sickening.  I hope someone in some sort of charge will make changes in how fertility doctors do their jobs.  This one was irresponsible at the least, criminal at the most.  I feel for these innocent little lives.  I have much compassion for them, none for their mother or for her fertility doctor. Maybe these babies could be placed with adoptive families who long for just ONE baby and are unable to have any on their own.  These babies deserve a chance and with this imbalanced, selfish woman, what chance do they have? 

I am really tired of hearing about this woman. She made her bed now let her lie in it. Social services should step in and take these childern as she is totaly unstable and in la la land.

I sit here & watch Dr.Phil.  I feel as if he is trying oh so hard to get the woman to say something that can be used against her  by authorities, such as childrens's services.  I live in Ohio..... why not come & visit some of the Amish families here, those with 13 -16 children in a 3-4 bedroom home.  I guess it is okay for them to have that many children.... yes, the man may work, but the women do not.  And the children run around bare foot, in horse manure or cow manure, or whatever else.  Most have rotten teeth.  Children as young as 5 years old walking down the road without an adult.  If that was this mother's children, she would be hung high.  And yes, Amish do assist each other, but what difference is that from others offering to help this lady with her children?  Amish may not get public assistance, but they sure do get alot of tax relief.  And they do ask & use the services of others for transportation, phones, tv, etc.  So what is the difference between this woman & the Amish?  Maybe if she said it was her religion, then all would be right.  So he just got her to say "yes, I regret it", so what new group will jump on that now?

This mother just doesn't GET IT.

Number one, I pray for all of her children, for I feel for each and every one of them. As for the mom, she really needs help and Dr. Phil isn't going to be able to do it, unless it's money. Why give this mom the time of day? If it's for the children, fine. Mom put herself in this mess and I can't feel sorry for her at all.

Now... I wish Dr. Phil would of just told her to shut up and LISTEN.

It is so clear she is using those precious children for money. Mom thought that the student loans would help her? COME ON. And she wants to get a degree in therapy? I would not want her as my therapist.

What saddens me the most is I am motherless, not by choice. I would of given ANYTHING to have a child and that child would of had a wonderful home.I would of loved to of had the chance to be offered just one of the embreos. I looked at her and just want to cry for what she is doing to these children. I pray that someone helps the grandma, for she is the one that really needs the help raising the children.

You know I agree with the most of you, this woman does appear in a dream world and yes some of her choices have been very selfish but this is the way I look at this ... What's done is done.  Instead of constantly knocking this woman's already low self esteem let us all try to help her tobetter herself and these children.  If we keep reminding her how "stupid or selfish" she is she may finally snap and then God forbid what if she pulls the old bathtub trick ... I think after watching the 2nd part of the show and watching Dr. Phil at the end,  I was relieved to hear what Dr P had to say.  She cried.  And you know what, all of us humans DO make mistakes - I have made countless and my kids are under the age of 6!!! It is so easy to sit on the outside and judge,  it seems that is all this world does anymore.  If I was closer I would love to be there for her to help her with the Children.  That is what she needs now is Support and Help and it IS for the kids.   I do not think she did this for the "money" or the "15minutes of fame" that she is getting as of now - I think she did make a poor choice but let's face reality now -  all we can do is try to make the best of this beautiful mess.  I mean my God this woman has gotten DEATH THREATS.  That is really who should be ashamed of themselves!  And actually suggesting that she put these children up for adoption is ridiculous - I mean she would not even do that with the embryo's.  Anyways I guess what I am saying is  yes it is an awful situation but like I said what's done is done,  why can't all of us that are mothers and grandmothers try to leave the Judging to God  and give this woman what she needs HELP!. And I am not just referring to money of course, but clothing, diapers, food, cribs, bottles, etc.  Most of all she is going to need TIME.  She seems to me like a very gentle loving mother - you cannot fake that for the cameras, that just comes naturally.  Those children are loved.  Why can't we love the mother as well.  Stop butchering her!   What about these other families on TV with 8,10,or 17 kids?  Is it just ok because there is a father in the picture?  My girls father is in the picture but I stil do 99% of the care BY MYSELF.  This woman needs our love, support, and advice and whatever else positive we can give her, she has had enough of the bashing.  Those babies are coming home any day.  I am not a strong religious person but I do know that God does not make mistakes and those babies are here for a reason.    I have bad days with just 2 kids - I cannot even imagine 14.  I wish her and her family the best, as I hope the Country can do one day as well.

Amen!  It is so nice  to hear someone else feel this way ...

SHE DOES NOT GET IT!!!! Period!! It's sad to say that even Dr. Phil cannot get through to her!! WOW! She does NOT need to bring these 8 babies home, they deserve better, they should be adopted by families who have the finacial, emotional and physcological cappabilities to take care of these babies! This woman is saying how there are volunteers, and people will to help who are going to be there to help take care of these children...thats PATHETIC!! She is responsible for having these kids, SHE needs to see the reality of  her decision she has made to have all these children. What is sad is the fact that the children will suffer and pay for what this ignorant woman has done. She is pushy, and I feel she's a liar!! Dr. Phil said "Millions of people are watching right now" And she replies "Don't remind me" Oh please.....she wants the attention, and no matter what she says about "Not wanting to ask for help" Well....thats bull()*#)@$!!!!!!! I just hope she had her tubes tied!! Cause she will do it again, it's not about kids....it's about her!! Grrrrrr....she makes me sick!!