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Topic : 02/26 Octuplets' Mom Talks to Dr. Phil, Part 2

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Dr. Phil’s daytime exclusive with Nadya Suleman continues. The unemployed single mother of six who gave birth to octuplets answers the public’s number one question. Plus, Nadya’s mother, Angela, joins the discussion. How does she feel about her daughter’s decisions? Talk about the show here.


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February 28, 2009, 1:33 pm PST

Nadya- Dr. Phil Interview

Dear Dr. Phil,

I love your show but was appauled by the interview with Nadya and her mother.  You had asked Nadya to speak up and ask the public what she needed and her mother leaned over and said a house would be nice.  "Be Real".

The reason I am so upset is that there are so many people out of work loosing there homes and living in tents because they have no money, and there are single mothers or fathers, where the partner just walks out on them to fend for themselves.  There is no-one out there offering donations for them to feed there family............. And by the way I think Nadya should have to make payments to the hospital for her bills.  The bill collectors have no problem asking anyone else for monies that are due to them.  The tax payers should not have to pay for her hospital bill at all.   If someone was in a tragic accident and owed money to the hospital they would come after them. 

I realize your more concerned about the children, but that could be taken care of by just having social services come in and take them away because there is no way she can do it on her own.

When they had Nadya on TV the other day in her "Rented home"  all I saw was her current children opening gifts, what was that all about. 

And by the way, I agree with the others that Nadia thinks this is all going to work out, she won't openly admit it, but she thrives for attention and knows that she will get something out of this.

And why hasn't her mother been paying the morgage on her home if Nadya is suppositly giving her rent money.  The whole thing doesn't make any sense.   What changed in the last six or seven months that Nadya's mother could no longer make her payment. 

 

 

 
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February 28, 2009, 2:20 pm PST

Be Real - Everyone has there own opion

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Hi! Dr Phil I agree Naydia needs help.People have to realize yes she had the babies she made a mistake people dont want to help her because she is the one that made the mistake but who will suffer those children will.We are bigger people to put what she did behind us and help her children.If I was closer  I would be there helping take care of those children it would be very fullfilling.I could tell with her fathers interview with Oprah that he was very concerned for the children and thats what we have to consider is those children they need the help.There is no way Naydia can take care of that many children.  She needs lots of Volenteers and lots of donations to help her make it through .

     If I was her I would write to Extreme Home Make Over and ask them for help.Her situation is very extreme.A normal house like she said even 4 bedrooms is not enough that is like 4 to 5 children to a bedroom way to small.It wouldnt hurt for her to write them a letter.I just hope people open there hearts and help her children thats what matters here.. 

If this would be the result "To have Extreme Home" either to clean up her current home or build her a bigger and better home, this would encourage many people to have multible births so they get a new home out of the deal. 

 
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February 28, 2009, 3:17 pm PST

Save the children

This isn't about being angry at Nadya . This is about the "children." Donations are not the answer ..... she would need a lifetime of donations and volunteers to raise this family.
The only shot these children have at any kind of a normal life ..... is adoption .
Better now than waiting until Social Services needs to intervene years down the road.

I can't believe that Dr. Phil is supporting the
irrational behavior of this woman. Her dialogue with her Mother said it all. It's all about what NADYA wants. Would you let a 12 year old raise 14 kids ?

She needs HELP ............ Dr Phil. The kind that doesn't call for volunteers and Money.
 
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February 28, 2009, 3:30 pm PST

A PUBLICISTS DREAM DRAMA!!!

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Well let me see now, Who are we to judge her? When ones life becomes SO public through their own doing. She has Left herself open to anything. She bucked for it and got it both barrels. What law did she break. Obviously you aren't an adult. So I will explain what law she broke. She both crossed the line and broke a moral law. The children may be cared for, but the grandmother has been caring for them all along. She is in the poor house now because of Nadya and will NOW lose her house. Nadya's father is also broke.

1. Nadya does NOT(nor EVER as) owned a home of her own. Nor has she bothered to attempt to get her own place. EVEN after she got a settlement of $165,000. And according to Nadya's mother. Nadya NEVER once offered her mother a dime of that money.

2. Nadya has NOT worked since 1999. She is therefore a burden.

3. She ADDS to this already impossible situation by having yet ANOTHER. eight babies.

And adult knows what an infant needs in the way of attention. Babies get fed every 4 hours. They get diaper changes more often. USUALLY. So, in a 24 hour period you have 6 shifts for feeding. The mother has to make the formulas, do laundry, fold clothes. and prepare meals for the other six who happen to need care also as they are all under the age of 7 years.  The six need to be dressed every morning, make breakfast for them, and lunch and then dinner. In the evening they need to be bathed. And put to bed. YOU can't spend much quality time with those six because you NOW have 8 infants. who also need to be fed changed and bathed everydyay. Do you know how many people this will take to accomplish??? Bottom line estimation. 75 people a week. If she doesn't have that help, I have to wonder if you fools that are screaming fowl have the balls to go and work there 24/7? Premature babies can not be exposed to many outsiders their little immunes systems aren't totaly developed, And they will have to be monitered carefully for the first year of their little lives. Should someone NOT notice one or more of these little ones as being unwell. The baby dies.

If this is not abuse I wonder what is in your estimation?

 Has it occured to anyone that the ones that come hear and defend and make excuses for Octo-NUT are more than likely working for her publicist?

 

 They want to break down our outrage for this welfare collecting nut. They want us to start feeling sorry for those FOURTEEN KIDS  and for her too , especially for her! Because! When those bottom feeding producers create a show for her people will tune in out of outrage and disgust as well as for hoping to watch her struggle and complain. "even though it will all be scripted and choreographed" the ratings will be there at the begining and that means big money for the publicists company , after all Jerry Springer was popular.  

 

 Here's a thaught...I think a website should be created  to start a petition to remove those FOURTEEN KIDS FROM THERE UNEMPLOYED SCAM ARTIST MOTHER  or at the very least , demand a court ordered social worker , a psycologist and someone to take control of all of her finances until the kids are past a certain age and have it be directed toward the State of California , Social services , County attorney and the State Attorney General. 

 

 Her former publicist stated that the money that she has received from her website has not reached 6 figures yet so she is making money. Who is handling the money? Is the IRS watching it? Is Octo-NUT touching it? Her nails are always done. Is any of the money going to be put toward the MILLION PLUS hospital bill? Has Octo-NUT even sat down with the billing dept. and discussed payment options or is her welfare medical plan covering it?

 

 Remember "Chris Hansen from Dateline's To catch a predator"?

 

 I would love to watch an episode of him where he walks up to Octo-NUT in a fancy restaurant and shows her being videod as she is getting her nails done , buying more expensive makeup , buying another video game and then walking into the fancy restaurant to eat dinner with her publicist and asks her...Who is watching the 6 kids? Why are you here with your publicist and not out looking for a place to live? We watched you for ten minutes , see , here you are laughing and smiling. Why? Then he drills her with all the questions that matter! Is America right? Are you taking advantage of the Governments welfare/disability system? Does your back still bother you today? When was the last time you went to a Dr. for your back? Were you ever prescribed painkillers? "If yes" Did you take them while you were pregnant with all your kids? Could that be why they have disabilities?  But of course , she would get up and run out and get into her publicists mercedes. Chris Hansen being the dedicated pro that he is and one for always getting to the truth he continues his investigation " tracking her every move , getting to the bottom of her finances , plastic surgery , why the mortgage payments stopped etc...  

 

Paramount Pictures presents...From fraud to riches staring Angelina Jolie as Octo-NUT and Brad Pitt as the fertility doctor.

 
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February 28, 2009, 3:46 pm PST

I am upset with this whole thing.

 

I can't believe Nayda turned down Angels in waiting. They had a home for the whole family to live in, 24/7 nursing care for the babies.  I wish Dr Phil had known about this before he set up his foundation to help her. I hope all the babies are well and have no problems but as all parents know problems show up later in some babies. She has three children that have some type of problem , (no seems to know what the problems are).

 

How is she paying rent if she has no job?   I forgot us the tax payers. In her interview she said if the can't find a home big enough they would add on the her mothers. How can that happen the mom lost her home to foreclose. Someone asked if  Nayda was paying her mom rent how did she lose the home, She lost it because she had to raise and support her six grandchildren.  Nayda claims she doesn't live with her mom, if thats true how come the kids live there?

 

My  questions in the matter is: Why was she so selfish with her settlement of 165,000.00 by spending it on invrito.  She could have help her mom and spent it on the children. And she claims her back injury is so sever  it keeps her from working, if that is true how was she able to carry  babies? Who will take care of these children when she goes back to school?  Did she every answer Dr. Phil on how she was going to support all 14 children?

 

 I have to admit I am upset by this whole situation. Any invirto doctor should make sure the patient will be able to support a child.    

 

 

 
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February 28, 2009, 3:52 pm PST

Upset with Dr. Phil too

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I won't even begin to tell you my feelings toward this woman. But Dr. Phil, you are an educated man, how can you be asking  Americans who are already wondering how they are going to feed and house their own families to reach out to this woman!!  I am sick of the media asking for handouts for this woman. I do feel sad for the children, as none of this is their fault and they will be the ones who suffer.

There are so many familes in America that deserve our help. Families whom have lost their houses/savings/retirement etc due to loss of job due to poor economy! I have lost some respect for you Dr. Phil over this one. I watched this show because I totally expected you to be the person to "put her in her place". You where way to kind, she is a very good actress. I am wondering if she is on some kind of medication to "sedate" herself. How could she just now, when some of them are ready to come home, be panicing!!  What about the months she was pregnant, did she not think about the day they would be born and be her responsibility!!!!

I seriously hope NOBODY gives into this lady using her embryos who are now newborn babies to better herself by receiving new houses/money etc. We should be helping the families in our own community who are trying to support their families, but having a hard time due to the economy/lack of jobs. We also have many military families who deserve our help.  As for the children, I agree they should not be released to this mother until she can provide a safe stable place for them. She could have given away her embryos, but now she is faced with giving away babies. I am not saying this is fair and as a mother this is unspeakable to me, but she knew going into all of this she could not care for the six she already had, let alone "one more".

Where do we draw a line America. Nadya came up with her own "bail out plan". What if I were to buy a chateau in France, then decide ooopps, I can't afford this. But I really want it!! I will just set up websites and go on TV pleading for people to support my new chateau, as this will be my childrens' home, noone would want to see innocent children kicked out on the street!!

I know a Chateau and children do not compare, but it is the point I am trying to make!

May God be with all 14 of these innocent children, as with the rest of America who is suffering during these hard times.

Dr. Phil, when Nadia refused the Angel charity's help for her 14 children, didn't that send you a red flag?

 

The "Angel" spokesperson went on to say that Nadia really wanted to do a reality show with them and her children.  I really think it's all about money.  Nadia says one thing but her actions are the opposite.

 

I'm a loyal follower of yours but your defending this woman as a sincere person who needs money sent to her is just wrong...................why hasn't someone mentally tested her???   If she's proven to be 'not right' then I believe the public would be more understanding and willing to help help.............becuase we all have someone  whose just 'not right' in the family.

 
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February 28, 2009, 3:57 pm PST

02/26 Octuplets' Mom Talks to Dr. Phil, Part 2

Quote From: cinden

Hi! Dr Phil I agree Naydia needs help.People have to realize yes she had the babies she made a mistake people dont want to help her because she is the one that made the mistake but who will suffer those children will.We are bigger people to put what she did behind us and help her children.If I was closer  I would be there helping take care of those children it would be very fullfilling.I could tell with her fathers interview with Oprah that he was very concerned for the children and thats what we have to consider is those children they need the help.There is no way Naydia can take care of that many children.  She needs lots of Volenteers and lots of donations to help her make it through .

     If I was her I would write to Extreme Home Make Over and ask them for help.Her situation is very extreme.A normal house like she said even 4 bedrooms is not enough that is like 4 to 5 children to a bedroom way to small.It wouldnt hurt for her to write them a letter.I just hope people open there hearts and help her children thats what matters here.. 

I would boycott the home make over show and it advertisers,   Will they can't do a show now mom lost the house. Oh wait Nayda expects a home to be built  for her, and we pay all the taxes so she can live free and clear. 

 

 

 

 

 
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February 28, 2009, 3:59 pm PST

check out this website

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I tried posting this before but maybe it was not "approved" I'll try again:

 

There is a place in Illinois called "Mooseheart", City of Children. It began probably over 100 years ago. Yes it's what all those Moose Lodges you see around support, surprisingly.

It has a beautiful campus, school, homes for children and help. Originally it was to benefit members of the Moose and their children in case of death of a parent, etc. before anyone ever thought up the welfare system. The childern are well educated, now mostly college prepped and also learn a trade-something our school system doesn't even offer. They have a farm and animals and at one time were almost self sufficient yet they interact completely with nearby towns. Each year there is a homecoming and get this: Mothers of the children used to even be able to come live there and help care for their children along with others!

My mother and two siblings graduated from there and were good people. I remember my mom talking about what a wonderful place it was and all her good memories.

Once Nadya gets psychiatric help maybe this could be an ideal solution for her problem and a good use of her childhood education. I am serious and hope Dr. Phil could check into this so everyone can move on.

Even though I hate what has happened and her decisions, there still must be a solution now.

For anyone interested in an alternative solution to adoption (which is ok too but one Nadya wouldn't consider...she may not consider this either but it's good to know about this place.....since she wants to keep the kids but may just want the money even though she may not get that option...

 

www.mooseheart.org

 

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February 28, 2009, 7:53 pm PST

14 Kids??!!

Dr. Phil,

Sorry but I think you have this one dead wrong.  This mother his extremely irresponsible and giving her help is just enabling her to continue her poor behavior.  These children should be put with families who can afford them and take care of them.  She doesn't have the financial means or the mental stability to take care of 14 children.  They should be put up for adoption!!!  Also, the Doctor who did this should have his license revoked.  I guess the idea of money just was too much for him.

 
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February 28, 2009, 8:07 pm PST

Perception of response...

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I don't understand how you can ask her if she has regret for what she has done.  I'm a preemie mom of a 26 weeker.  We spent 3 1/2 months in the hospital.  It was horrible to see my little boy in that situation but if anyone had asked me if I regretted my choice of having a baby I would have been very angry.  How can she be a good mom if she says she regrets having these babies?  Her kids are going to watch these videos one day and if they hear their mother say she regrets having them they will be heart broken.  I have a question that I haven't heard the answer to yet.  Did she consult anyone besides the doctor before doing this?  Because if it was a matter of killing her frozen eggs did she consult her church?  She said they were going to help her.  Did she ask for their support ahead of time?   
I have to jump in here to clarify the response that she gave, as I heard it.  I don't believe that she regrets having the children - if she did, don't you think maybe she would have considered aborting 1 or some of the babies (as this decision would have also resulted in a less dangerous pregnancy).  I do believe that she regrets her decision to ignore the fact that she was unable to personally provide for the 6 children she already had.  It seemed to me that she was saying if she could do it again she simply wouldn't have gotten implanted at this time.  Which leads me to another question (again, I haven't really followed this story, but caught the Dr. Phil Part 2 episode)...has anyone asked why she decided to get implanted when she did?  I understand that she says she didn't want to "kill" her frozen embryo's....but why now?  Why not wait until she earned her degree?  I think I overheard someone talking that she was less than 2 years from a degree...what was the big rush?
 
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