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Topic : 03/16 Octuplets' Mom Answers Viewer Questions

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Created on : Thursday, March 12, 2009, 05:52:05 pm
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After Nadya Suleman’s two-part special with Dr. Phil, the cameras keep rolling. Dr. Phil leads a town hall meeting between the mother everyone is talking about and the studio audience. See Nadya openly answer viewers’ questions: How will she take care of herself while caring for 14 kids? Where will the children be while she pursues her education? How will she find transportation for all her kids? Where will the organization that's agreed to help her, Angels in Waiting, get the funds to assist with 14 children? How will the donations coming in be handled? Is the sperm donor aware that he has fathered 14 kids? Then, Nadya leaves the stage but the discussion continues without her. The audience doesn't hold back with their heated comments. Plus, as Nadya prepares to move into her new home and make it suitable for the influx of babies, how will her new neighborhood react to the mom of 14 and the media frenzy that follows? Talk about the show here.


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March 15, 2009, 2:59 am CDT

The Eight Babies Plus

I can't believe what I was seeing with you interviewing Nadya.  Yes, she did have 8 babies by her own choice.  As soon as she found out about  the babies, she was on the phone taking offers for her to be interviewed.  The interviews were going for about $1.5 million each.  Dr. Phil I hope you didn't pay that much.  However, I know the babies are here and nothing can change that.  But how in the world did she get a nice home when she isn't working except for doing interviews.  She looks and acts like a loving mom in front of the cameras but behind the scenes I don't see it happening.  Now not only does she have a brand new home but you have people donating their time and money to make it better!!  She is going to have professional people around the clock not only to care for the babies but the other six children as well.  Did you ask about the nanny she already said she had to take care of the other children and the state is paying for it all!!  There are people like me who struggle every day to put food on the table and keep a roof over our heads, but I guess the only way we are going to get help is if we had 14 kids.  And might I say, it was by her own choice all the way.  To me, this means she gets more money from the state for them.  I watched and rewatched your show and I don't think there was a straight answer that she gave that she didn't become wishy washy over it.  She would agree with you even if you thought her idea was wrong.  All of a sudden her answer changed to agree with you.  I do not see the thankfulness in her expression to even give her more things.  You have all these people who are donating time and money just so she can get what she wants.  I thought of all people that you would see that she is an attention getter.  The interviews that she gave other shows was just like yours.  All she wants is people to support her and do everything for her.  She see on camera she is a loving mother, but what about off camera?  The kids were surprised that mom gave them any attention at all.  The way she talked to her mother on a previous interview with you showed how disrespectful and unappreciative she was toward her own mother!!!  It makes me wonder when her spotlight is gone, just what kind of mother she will be.  She really put on a good show for you Dr. Phil and you bought it hook, line, and sinker.

 
March 15, 2009, 5:25 am CDT

Angry by the Circus

I amy very angry by all of  the attention that this story is receiving on the show. Why are we still talking about her? I realize that the children should not be punished, but the mother actually chose this path and should now deal with the consequences without the fame and the extras.

 

I am 42 years old and have been married for over 16  years to a classmate I met in high school. My husband and I both work and we own our home. Things are tight but we have no credit card debt and try not to live beyond our means. We have a 12 year old son who is the center of our world and we are happy. But in all these years, I have only been able to get pregnant one time - a "fluke" that occured while off of fertility treatment. The treatments are very costly and we eventually, and saddly, had to end the effort. We feel so fortunate to have our son and I rarely think about what else could have been. Then, something like this happens.

 

It angers me that an irresponsible, unmarried, unemployed, homeless mother of six children would be given the opportunity to have more children. She has no means to support them and had no right to do this. It is an insult to those of us who have done the right thing every day and continue to do so.

 

Please stop giving her the publicity. I won't watch another show that features this circus.

 
March 15, 2009, 6:41 am CDT

LEAVE NADIA ALONE!

In society not all is fair. It is our moral and ethical duty to care for those who for WHATEVER REASON fall between the cracks. So, we care for lung cancer patients who smoked all their lives. We treat cirrhosis of the liver patients who are alcoholics. We care for infants whose mothers are cocaine addicts. We even take care of millions of dogs that are abandoned by their irresponsible owners. Not everything in life is perfect and rosy. I am sure due to our own folly, at some time in our lives we have ALL required assistance paid by taxpayers money. It is like insurance. We buy it and when bad things happen we take advantage of it but usually we do not need it. Do we resent those who do? In this case Nadya Suleman needs our help and should receive it without having to be made into a public spectacle.
But what REALLY disgusts me is this RIGHT that we all think we have to push our noses into her business. This poor woman, recovering from a difficult labour and birth, trying to cope with her situation has the wrath of America on her head. Not only that but she is TRAPPED in this media frenzy IF she wants help. And in order to be able to keep her children she knows that she has to surrender to this barrage of public scrutiny and abuse in order to get Dr. Phil's help. It is SHAMEFUL the way this poor woman is being treated! Give her the respect and privacy and the right to live her life without this unrelenting hateful scrutiny and criticism. This is her sentence for the 'crime' of irresponsibility and of giving birth to so many multiples. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.
A disgusted Canadian
 
March 15, 2009, 7:03 am CDT

LEAVE NADYA ALONE!

Quote From: woundedknee43

I can't believe what I was seeing with you interviewing Nadya.  Yes, she did have 8 babies by her own choice.  As soon as she found out about  the babies, she was on the phone taking offers for her to be interviewed.  The interviews were going for about $1.5 million each.  Dr. Phil I hope you didn't pay that much.  However, I know the babies are here and nothing can change that.  But how in the world did she get a nice home when she isn't working except for doing interviews.  She looks and acts like a loving mom in front of the cameras but behind the scenes I don't see it happening.  Now not only does she have a brand new home but you have people donating their time and money to make it better!!  She is going to have professional people around the clock not only to care for the babies but the other six children as well.  Did you ask about the nanny she already said she had to take care of the other children and the state is paying for it all!!  There are people like me who struggle every day to put food on the table and keep a roof over our heads, but I guess the only way we are going to get help is if we had 14 kids.  And might I say, it was by her own choice all the way.  To me, this means she gets more money from the state for them.  I watched and rewatched your show and I don't think there was a straight answer that she gave that she didn't become wishy washy over it.  She would agree with you even if you thought her idea was wrong.  All of a sudden her answer changed to agree with you.  I do not see the thankfulness in her expression to even give her more things.  You have all these people who are donating time and money just so she can get what she wants.  I thought of all people that you would see that she is an attention getter.  The interviews that she gave other shows was just like yours.  All she wants is people to support her and do everything for her.  She see on camera she is a loving mother, but what about off camera?  The kids were surprised that mom gave them any attention at all.  The way she talked to her mother on a previous interview with you showed how disrespectful and unappreciative she was toward her own mother!!!  It makes me wonder when her spotlight is gone, just what kind of mother she will be.  She really put on a good show for you Dr. Phil and you bought it hook, line, and sinker.

Yes, she did put on a good show. She has no choice. Nadya is a dancing puppet; and she knows that she has to do just as she is told and play the role of the perfect mother or else America will hang her up from the tallest tree! One false move and she could lose her children....and she knows it.!!! This poor woman has been tormented and exploited enough. Leave her alone!
We are obliged to help those in need...yes, even if they have created their own messes. And we ALL at one time or another and in varying degrees depend on public money for our follies whether it be illness that is to some extent 'self imposed' such as lung cancer, anorexia, suicide attempts, crime in general, reckless driving, extreme sports, drug addictions, alcoholism, child and spousal abuse.. Our tax dollars are meant to help out 'the tired and the poor' of our society....and not just for those who go that way due to misfortune but also for those who made bad decisions in their lives. Nadya's case is no different than many others whose bad decisions afftect family members and society at large in one way or another. PLEASE stop judging her and LET HER BE! It is just so vulgar, crass and judgemental and downright mean spirited for America to be so hard on this unfortunate, young woman who must be desperately trying to cope.
May I remind you of the incription on your statue of liberty:
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
Please America, show compassion and just let this woman be to live her own life. And if she makes mistakes along the way, it is HER Life and HER family.

Signed: a very disgusted Canadian from a country where we take for granted that our more socialist government will take care of the sick, downtrodden, poor and unfortunate of society.
 
March 15, 2009, 7:24 am CDT

03/16 Octuplets' Mom Answers Viewer Questions

Quote From: reniemarie

EXACTLY. I am so sick of the people out here who actually do NOT see her and this situation for what it really is...a hustle! This is all Nadya Suleman's HUSTLE to GET MONEY and FAME !!!!! She makes me sick to my stomach and her poor mother! She was practically raising those 6 kids and then her crazy fame searching daughter goes and does this (and please people stop believing that she "only wanted one more child") for publicity and money and tells her mom she has a tumor? Wow. Too bad that Nadys Suleman's hustle had to include bringing 8 very sick little human beings into this world without any hope of a normal future. She should be brought up on criminal charges somehow, maybe fraud? Misappropriation of funds? Anything! This woman is a greedy, egotistic, scheming liar!!!!! 
...and have you NEVER made bad decisions in your life? And if you did not but some time in the future you or a member of your family does, will you not accept help paid for by public funds? What if your father drinks and drives and hits a tree? His insurance paid by other insurance members will pay for his treatment...or should he pay out of his own pocket the hundreds of thousands of dollars of care required? What if your son takes drugs and blows his mind and needs care and rehabilitation? What is your cigarette addicted uncle needs an operation for lung cancer? What about your anorexic niece?...or your obese cousins? NONE OF US is immune from the fall out of our own bad decisions. But this does not mean that we have to be put on trial, judged and persecuted publicly for our misdeeds. Please everyone, let this poor woman be. She has a big enough burden and this horrible media frenzy and hatefulness by the American public is disgraceful and mean spirited.
Disgusted in Canada
 
March 15, 2009, 7:38 am CDT

Leave Nadya Alone!

Quote From: dancegirl

I applaud you, Dr. Phil for taking the steps to see that these innocent children are given a chance in life.  I respect you for it.

 

NOW, it is time to move on with other stories on the show.  I delete the recording every time it is another Nadya show.  I don't CARE to hear her answers to the audience questions, I just want her to take care of her 14 children, now with your generous help.

 

Really, enough is enough and I'd appreciate it if you would continue to do your work with her in silence.

I am in complete agreement. with you. Enough is enough! There is no doubt that this woman has made mistakes...and who among us has not? It is crass and distasteful to milk the life out of this woman for the viewing pleasure of the very angry American public. The exploitation has gone far enough. Nadya is young. She is recovering from a serious pregnancy and delivery. Do we hear her complaining or do we hear any sympathy?... Nadya is saddled with a monumental mothering job ahead of her. She needs to be left alone. But it won't happen.
When people start to gather in front of her house or hound her in the malls, she should move because it would be impossible to live in such a hostile environment where she might fear for her safety and that of her children. Move where? If she is from the Middle East that might be the solution. Or she can come to Canada. We are far more private in nature and we are very cosmopolitan and of course we have a more socialist government. She would be left in peace here, believe me. But would she be allowed in to Canada with such a large drain on the medical system. If she has Dr. Phil's sponsorship it is doable. Otherwise she and her family as immigrants would not be allowed to move to Canada to be 'a burden on the taxpayer'. We have enough taking care of our own. Nadya really has no choice but to live a life of misery imposed by the American people...unless they leave her alone. I think Dr. Phil, it is your responsibility, since you are partially the cause of Nadya's fame, to stress to the American public to leave this woman and her family in peace. Amen...I hope!
 
March 15, 2009, 8:22 am CDT

Why?

why isn't the doctor that made this happen made to support the children. Yes I think the children should stay together but, they won't make her bring the father into what he helped cause. The people that are supplying 24/7 child service someone is paying them. A 4 bedroom house is not by Code fit for 15 people She does not have the mindset for this majior undertaking. You can tell she is not Mentally fit for this. She acts more like she is in some kind of state of mind that babies is the answer to everything, and she is or was on disability. I would say she needs to go back to what ever contry she come from, but it is to late for that. Now in one way or the other other people is going to have to raise her kids for her, and nobody should be able to write a book about this. I think she did it for fame of some sort.
 
March 15, 2009, 8:55 am CDT

The Old Lady Living in a Shoe is just a Nursing Rhythm

After viewing the two shows regarding the octuplets and their mother, I still have the strong feeling that this woman has no understanding  about what reality is.  This woman appears so ill equipt to raise one child not to even contemplate 14 children.  She has shown that she cannot make good decisions nor answer why she made the poor decisions.  To illustrate the fact this women is not in reality, she is still saying she is staying in school to get her counsler degree ---all that with just a few kids.

 

Thank God for the healthcare organization that has stepped in to help these children.  The children will have a stable group of people in their lives for several years.  

 

I do not understand what the mother's problem is with letting this organization take care of the children 24/7.  It only points out to me how unstable she is. 

 

I noticed she did admit that she was going to sell pictures of her babies but not exploit them......will somebody hand her a dictionary to look up the word"exploit ".  She said she had a trust fund for her children and all the money she recieves through donations and selling images of her octopulets will go into the trust fund......like I believe that.  Does anyone buy that trust fund idea?

 

Next we will be able to buy tee-shirts with the octuplets' pictures on it.........

 

 

 

 
March 15, 2009, 9:07 am CDT

The older six's behavior issues

I responded on 3-13 to the 3-11 show about Nadya's lack of responsibility and now after seeing her lastest diary on Radar online I'm wondering if it wouldn't be wise to REMOVE THE OLDER SIX CHILDREN FOR THE SAKE OF THE NEW 8.  I don't think they are bad children, few are, but they act out physically.  The Dugger and Gosselin children they are not!!!   Radar online shows the children as out-of-control (and she is doing little to curb them), and Nadya admitted that at least some of them are not accepting of the octuplets coming home.  This will be major as they act out further for attention.  Dr. Phil should provide counseling for these older six to help their behavior and to help them acclimate to their new siblings.  Also, it would be helpful for them to go to a day preschool of some kind.  They'd have fun, be out of the fray, and learn some behavioral skills.  Let Dr. Phil pay for this if he wants to help.  Nadya won't be able to have the babies' cribs in the den area with the other children running around.  I hope she gives up her master bedroom for them.  They'll need the peace and quiet, and the older children will need the main house to be a LITTLE BIT active.  The older six will be inconvenienced enough.  I hope the octupliets can be kept separate from the out-of control activity for a long while.

 

I, TOO, AM TIRED OF HER LIES.  Her answers have either been different from before or very vague, proving she really doesn't know what is going on and isn't actively involved.  When asked when her new house would be ready, her response was a vague "few days" and when asked what needed to be done, that also was vague.  Now, on Radar online she says there are only a few things that need to be done but that she, herself, wants many more done, "...for the safety of the children..."  I don't think so; she didn't care about the condition of her current house for her older kids.  As I said in my last post, I think Angels in Waiting and Kaiser are dictating exactly what needs to be done to her house, and she is simply trying to be in the loop for appearances sake.  And I hope on Monday's show she says THANK YOU in a big grateful voice.  As someone else posted, she should be crying with appreciation.

 

Lastly, I, like others, am surprised that Dr. Phil has placated her and allowed some of her comments to go unchallenged.  Especially irritating is her reference to her "field" as a counselor.  Earlier reports quote her as saying she is getting a master's degree in counseling and would be finished in 1 1/2 to 2 yrs.  That means she has just started since a master's program is generally 30 credit hours or so done in 1-2 yrs.  She couldn't have had but one semester of work, 3-4 classes, and she interrupted her Fall semester to go to bed, so those credits were lost.  Ludicrous that she'd put herself in the same profession as Dr. Phil.  She did so on the 3-11 show, making one or two comments about their joint field of counseling, and she understood what he was saying b/c she, too, was in his field.  STOP ALREADY!  Do any of us think she'll now get a job in counseling after all this?  No one will hire her after this negative notariety.  Dr. Phil needs to burst her delusions and tell her she's ruined any chance of being successful in that profession.

 
March 15, 2009, 9:32 am CDT

My opinion

Evidently Nadya took the older kids to DisneyLand Friday and Knotts Berry Farm Saturday. She wanted to spend some time with them before the babies come home. Now quiet time with them sounds very good but she purposely took the camera crew!!  Some thoughts on this-

1. Not the smartest time to spend that kind of money on this. The world is looking and she wants people to donate but this kind of action turns the donating public off. Dodging the cameras and taking them on a picnic, reading and generally being there for them may have been better for the kids anyway. Its going to be rough enough with the new news that the little bit of expensive make-up she bought recently actually cost over $1000.

2. Isn't she moving? How did she find time for those excursions? Who's packing her stuff? It's got to be a circus with 6 kids to pack for. Maybe she is just throwing everything out and starting over? Or is granma and granpa doing it all.

3. When she is on air Monday, will someone please ask her about how she afforded the nanny before the octuplets when she wasn't selling herself? 

4. So many lies and conflicting statements. I am afraid that she will be impossible to work with the nurses that will be helping her. She will not be able to push them around like her parents and anyone else she has hired to help. They are educated and there to teach her and she thinks she knows everything. As a professional nurse myself, I don't think I could take it for long. If they don't quit, Nadya will probably get rid of them anyway.

5. I feel sorry for those kids. Their future does not look bright in the long run of things. I don't think foster care is an an answer and adoption is unrealistic. She would never do that. When the publicity dies down and the donations dry up there will be a lot of problems for this family. There is always the possibility that Nadya will eventually be brought up on fraud charges for all those years too. Too many lies and a selfish mom. Bless those innocents who will not grow up innocent at all.

 
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