Topic : Gay Marriage Debate

How can people be so oppsed to people wanting to love and be loved? There is so much hate, violence, neglect, and suffering in this world, so can't those that are opposed (religously, morally, or whatever) just turn our heads on this issue if it bothers them? So many terrible things go on behind closed doors and gays loving each other is NOT going to make this world a terrible place.    

    

For those who say gay marriage threatens the sanctity of marriage, what married couple can possibly be adversly affected by the actions of gay people involved in an exclusive loving relationship anyway? No one rallies against a poor white girl marrying a rich black man, or a country girl marrying a city boy, or a Russian marrying a Peurto Rican, or an old man marrying a young girl. Who cares if a man marries another man? Live and let live so long as the actions don't infringe on the comfort and happiness of others.   

    

Lets spend our efforts promoting changes that reap benefits, not striving to make others UNhappy.   

    

Happily Married Heterosexual who is NOT threatened by gay marriage!   

Daytona Beach, FL   

    

Finding it weird that so many people have brought in to this debate the protection of children by marriage. Whilst i agree that marriage is a form of protection for childrens rights, it seems like people need a way of justifying gay marriage, and wont accept simply that, whether they have children or not, gay marriages should simply be allowed because they are adults, in love, and its their decision. Its annoying that straight people r the ones 'allowing' the marriages. Whys it anyone else's business.

I think gay marriage is a step in the right direction, but true equality will be when being gay and getting married or having children doesn't prompt the need for discussion or debate. That is how it is for hetrosexuals and true equality would need the same to be true for the gay community. I am hopeful that we can become a more tolerant society by being less focused on our own 'rights' and more focused on the rights of others and how we trespass over them.

  A)  If marriage is good for ninety-five percent of us, then why isn't it good for the other five percent?  B)  If gays can hold jobs (and pay income tax) and buy houses (and pay property tax), then why shouldn't they get what they paid for, including social security, pensions, spousal benefits?  C)  If someone is actually willing to put up with me for the rest of my life, what do I care which bathroom they use? and why should anyone else care?

I know i shouldnt get so worked up about things, but i heard something today which reallllyyyy annoyed me to say the least!  

We were having a debate at work, and we were talking about kids and discipline, and someone comes out with "personally, i have nothing against gays, i mean, i would rather my son be gay then dead in an alley with a needle in his arm"..... 

Whats that about?? Maybe im jumping the gun and being too critical, but what a stupid comparrison? its like well if i had to choose one of the two evils , i would choose the lesser of the two...am i reading into this? It just annoys me when people say things like, well yeh id rather he be gay than dead.. mm i dont know, maybe im just being argumentative> I didnt say anything at the time, but gave me a lot to think about on the way home thats for sure.  

  

Mmm....im confused!
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Wonder if they meant that people are so worked up about gays, that they don't see what the big deal is that they should be glad that their child is alive and well? I think anything that a person says could be taken an offense to. I could say to you, "I would rather be straight then gay", How would you interprett that? Would you think that I was putting a gay person down just becasue I would rather be straight.? I am sure there would be those who would take offense to my remark, but of course they would think it was a wonderful remark if I said, " I would rather be gay................" So I suppose it is up to you on how you want to interprett it. I personally know what I believe and why and I refuse to allow any one to offend me by silly remarks, don't take things so personally, it is a free society and we are all free to say and think as we want.

I know what u mean about reading into things and taking offence at anything, but thats not what i was doing. Hence why i sent a message and asked people whether i was jumping the gun.  

Things dont bother me easily, i agree, if people dont think homosexuality is right or natural then thats their choice. They have a right to say so.
Are you gay btw? Hope u dont mind me asking.. 

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No I am not gay. I am happily married with two little girls. I do believe that homosexuallity is not the plan that God created and would never encourage it. BUT I have a friend who is gay and I love him to pieces. I don't put him down or have less respect for him just because I don't agree with his life style, we have been friends since we were teenagers (I am 42 and he is late 30's now). God and only God is the judge and I believe that we are here to love and and to serve God and to be kind and help others and all as well as to love and respect others, we are given free choice to live our lives the way we want, whether we are living right, well, that is between God and us as individuals. I believe that we are meant to be happy and loving and how we choose to do this is up to us, the imporant thing I believe is to know with out the benefit of doubt that our life styles are pleasing to God and to figure all that out, we must pray and seek his word and pray some more and keep seeking and praying til we know for a fact that we are living to the best of our ability for God, striving for His purpose. Now, all this is my opinion and I don't want any one to feel offended here, As far as your message, about "jumping the gun", Does it really matter what the person meant? I personally think he was just saying that parents of gays should be glad that their child isn't dead which could be a whole lot worse then being gay or whatever, probably talking about parents of gays encouraging them not to be so bent out of shape there. I don't think he was putting gays down.....Of course I have absolutely no clue really as I do not know the person nor did I hear the conversation, so who knows! Don't worry about, I am sure there are more imporant things in life to think about..............................................

absolutely there r important things to talk about.....my questioning whether something was homophobicly intended or not was just a question. One thing i was wondering about though (and im just curious, not meaning to argue, really just asking) is that your a religious man, and according to you being gay is against what god says...yet you have a gay friend....do u ever try and convince him that his ways are wrong? IM curious as a gay woman who believes that god is not against homophobia, instead loves everyone and everyones sexualities and behaviours equally.

I think you are talking to me. I am actually a female LOL. The Bible is very clear about how God wants us to live, read the New Testament for your slef, pray and seek his will for your life. I really don't want to get on that as I know through experience on these boards others will be offended. I agree God loves all people, this is why he sent Jesus into the world, to provide salvation. again, go to the New Testament. but it doesn't mean that all our ways are acceptable to him. As I said before we have free will to choose our lives paths and He allows us to choose how we live even if he doesn't like our ways. Again, I want to stress that God loves all people and it is He and only He who will have the last say, He knows our heart and desires, and we each are only responsible and accountable for our own salvation, the way we live is between us as individuals and God. The Lord also wants us to present his word to others and to share our faith and I have absolutely no problem doing this. I have no problem sharing with others what my beliefs are and I have no probelm sticking up for what I believe, even with loved ones. I love my friend and he knows it and though he knows that I disagree with his life style, he knows that I care deeply for him. Just becasue I disagree with some one doesn't mean I am not going to be a friend, Look in the New Testament and you will see that Jesus befriended every one regardless of how they lived their lives. I don't try to convince any one of anything, at least I try not to for I believe every one has the right to live as they want but again, I don't have a problem expressing my views. I don't tell people that they are going to hell or that God is mad at them or whatever, I try to share with them what I believe to be true and they can do what ever they wish to do with it. I also just don't go up to people and say "hey, your way of life is wrong..................." Usually I wait for an open door to speak my thoughts and in all honesty I don't think I have really argued with any one over a topic, I say what I feel to say and leave it at that which I think is the best thing to do. The Bible I believe is the word of God and it is there to help guide and lead us in the path God would have us to go and interpretations may bne different for every one but we must always realize that God is a God of love and compassion and all, but at the same time, that does not mean that our ways are always acceptable to him so prayer and seeking Him is the best thing we can do for ourselves.