Topic : Gay Marriage Debate

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Created on : Monday, August 01, 2005, 09:18:12 am
Author : gebham

Do you think that members of the same sex should marry?

I for one am all in favour of it. I dont think its something that should be questioned. When any two people of consenting age want to get married, i think they should have the inherent right to do so.


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October 4, 2005, 6:40 pm PDT

Gay marriage

I live in Ontario, Canada.  My brother, after many years of marriage and two children divorced and later decided he was gay.  He asked me what I thought if he married his current partner.  Its legal here.  I still feel marriage is between a man and woman, but I love my brother and he's happy.  I will support whatever he does.
 
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October 5, 2005, 3:07 am PDT

Gay Marriage..

For those of you that believe the Bible, good for you. But the United States isn't for Christians only. I was raised Jewish. I have friends who are Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, Hindu and Buddhist, and they all pay the same amount of taxes to this country and have the same right to worship or don't worship as they see fit. So don't use the Bible in legal matters. My father is Caucasian and my mother is Filipina, people in this country used the Bibled against interracial marriage not that long ago and according to some Christians I should have never been born because their book tells them so. 

  

As far as gay marriage goes, I don't realy see heterosexuals really keeping the "sanctity of marriage" alive. I really don't think gays could do any worse.  

  

Many gay people have children, being married would protect their children to have two parents instead of the non biological one or legal guardian just completely skipping on their obligations. So allowing gays to get married would protect children. Also, it would allow gays to protect themselves and their own assests better and have their spouse benefit from SS and medical benefits.  

  

I am not saying that you necessarily have to agree with their lifestyle, but no one is asking for you to. There are heterosexuals that do things all the time that I disagree with on ethical grounds but it's still their business. 

  

BTW, I am a happy, heterosexual female in a monogamous relationship. 

 
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October 5, 2005, 7:28 am PDT

Let's give love another chance

I would like to reiterate part of the last poster's message, which I thought was pertinent.  If you who interpret  the bible (and interpretation is so often the key to the bible's contents) to be against gay marriage and have an egregious interest in prohibiting any love contract other than that which is heterosexual, perhaps your energy could be more creatively used as a proponent of the sanctity of all marriage.  Had you noticed the general condition of heterosexual, traditional marriage in this country?   

  

My questions to those who oppose marriage between ANY two people would be the following.  Why does someone else's love for another human being threaten your own?   How does another couple's love, whoever they may be, diminish yours in any way?  Why do you care with whom another shares a deep and abiding love and a desire to legally declare it?  Opposition to anyone's shared love and ability to publicly display such strikes a chord similar to racism.  If you are a racist no doubt you have a devalued opinion of yourself which provokes the need to devalue others.  If you are, in general, a person who is happy and satisfied with herself, you have no need to devalue or attempt to prohibit happiness or equal opportunities to those of other races, lifestyles or spiritual beliefs.  It's really just that simple. 

  

  

 
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October 5, 2005, 7:43 am PDT

Gay Marriage Debate

This is a sticky topic.  I'm not going to debate whether I'm for or against homosexual marriage because morally I think it's wrong, but I also don't believe the government has any business forcing those morals on anyone else.  However, I do think it takes away from the sacredness and purpose of marriage for this reason: 

If you set up laws that says that any two people can get married, regardless of sex, etc., then what will likely happen is people will be getting married left and right in order to have the rights a married couple enjoys.  For instance, you could have two elderly women (who are NOT homosexual) marry just for the sake of taking care of each other when the other passes away. (through social security benefits, etc).  I don't think there should be the condition of marriage for people to take advantage of those things, but sadly, a homosexual in a civil union has those rights whereas two elderly women who live together and love each other in a non-sexual way do not have those rights and I think THAT is wrong. 
 
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October 5, 2005, 8:17 am PDT

What's the problem?

I don't think there should be such a big fuss made over gay/lesbian marriage. Why should they be treated any different than the rest of us fellow humans? Whom does it disturb (and whose business is it, anyways) if a gay or lesbian couple want to get married? People should feel free to choose their life partner.
 
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October 5, 2005, 8:42 am PDT

STOP THE MADNESS

Ok everyone.  It's no one's business who wants to get married.  I by no means think that judges or ministers who do not agree with it should be forced to marry a gay couple but it should be allowed.  No one has the right to tell anyone who they can and can not marry.  It's simply not fair.  Religion has to much power in this country.  It needs to change.  I understand that it is man and woman in the bible, but some people do not have the same beliefs.  If we are all gods' children then he will love us for who we are not who we marry.  Thank You for listening. 

 
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October 5, 2005, 11:05 am PDT

Why the fuss? Because...

The biggest issue with Gay Marriage is "Marriage". 

  

Many religions consider marriage to be sacred.  This makes it a matter between those getting married and God.  This makes the whole issue a double-edged sword: 

  

1) If you are for Gay marriage, you are seen as trying to force your point of view on those who believe more conservatively - potentially violating centuries of tradition and established definitions of what constitutes particular sins.  The concern from the conservatives is that if unions are made legal, advocates will bring further pressure on churches to accept what is not part of their traditions and force them to change their beliefs - a violation of the church's rights.  

  

2) If you are against Gay marriage, you are seen as trying to force your point of view on those who believe more liberally - interfering with a matter that is viewed as either between God and the couple or simply a secularly legal issue.   The concern from the liberals is that marriage should be a civil right, such that churches should not impose their moral ordinances on those who don't follow those beliefs. 

  

Dicey. 

  

Personally, I'm willing to accept a third road.  Allow for homosexual civil unions.  Churches may proceed as is appropriate for their doctrine and tenets.  That means, however, that I do not support a homosexual marriage in a Roman Catholic church.  The RCC is free to allow or restrict what it wishes to within it's own venue; a church marriage is NOT a civil right.  Anyone wishing to protest against the Catholics in an effort to force change will find me on the other side, defending their right to their own beliefs. 

 
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October 5, 2005, 12:34 pm PDT

Whatever already!

I for one do not understand why everyone insists on worrying about what everyone else is doing instead of just worrying about themselves. Let the gays marry, let the stoner's smoke their marijuana...WHO CARES!! It is religions fault that we have all these ridiculous laws and debates about what people can and cant do in the privacy of their own lives for ___ sake! It was a book people, and don't give me intelligent design crap cause that has nothing to do with science and should never be taught along side as such. That is a whole different subject rather than gays but, but lets all try to just mind our own business shall we. Just leave the gays alone and get over it!
 
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October 5, 2005, 2:00 pm PDT

Gay Marriage Debate

 I think that 3 people should be allowed to marry.  What if they are bisexual?  Isn't it discriminatory to say only  2 people can marry?   Who ever came up with the magic number of 2 anyway?   Probably the same person who came up with 'one man one woman'. 

And why can't grown adults who are related marry.  Who are we to tell an adult male and his adult daughter that they don't have the right to marry?

Okay, I'm being sarcastic but I do believe that the idea of marriage orginated with God and once we start messing with His definitions, we could find ourselves not knowing where to stop drawing the new lines. 
 
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October 5, 2005, 2:13 pm PDT

Gay Marriage Debate

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Now that the recent bill was passed here, it is legal for gay couples to marry anywhere in Canada. The law allows any minister to follow their own heart about this issue. No one is forced to perform a marriage they don't believe in but, fortunately, there are a great many ministers who are pleased to marry a happy couple. 

  

I've always believed in equity when it comes to the right of consenting adults marrying and as a happily married heterosexual, I don't see the sanctity of my wonderful marriage being sullied by any two happily married adults no matter their sexual preferences.  

  

Currently, a friend of mine is helping out a senior couple who have been separated by illness. They are a couple who have been together for over 30 years but, because they are both women and from a time when there was a stigma against gay relationships, they have always claimed to be "just friends". Sadly, one member of the couple became ill and had to be placed in a full care nursing home and it was then that her partner realized she would have to "come out". As a married couple, they would be able to automatically be placed in the same facility with the healthy partner helping with care but as "friends", the partner doesn't qualify to live there. My friend is helping them establish their relationship in order to ensure they can continue to be together well into old age.  

  

  

As far as the bible and homosexuality, I'm amazed that anyone could read the book of Ruth without realizing that she and Naomi were involved in a loving relationship. In the first book of Samuel, the relationship between David and Jonathan also appears to be a loving one.  

 Regarding comments about Ruth and Naomi and David and Jonathan being in loving relationships, where on earth do you get the idea these were gay relationships?   Ruth was Naomi's daughter in law. 
 

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