Topic : Gay Marriage Debate

Quote From: jettav

Well, to each their own but any one who reads and believes in the teachings of the New Teastament (which is basically the teachings of Christ and the guide to how we should live our lives today) will clearly see that it teaches against the homosexual life style. The scriptures are there for us to read and to interprett as we apply them to our lives and I personally believe that the day of judgement is coming for all people and how we live and our relationship with the Lord Jesus himself will be the basis of that judgement. I personally believe that the gay life style is wrong in the eyes of the Lord but I am not here to judge but I will continue to teach what I believe, and encourage people to pray sincerely and to seek God's will and plan for their lives, for we are only accountable to our selves . We are living in a "whatever goes" society but the the thing of it is, I don't believe that is how God planned it, He wants us to follow His plan and not the worlds plan so the only thing I have to say on this subject is to know the word of God and His will and know with your whole being that the choices you have made is righteous in the sight of the Lord, for that day is coming when the Truth will be revealed. Our God is a loving and compassionate God but at the same time, His Ways are the truth and remember that the Bible also says that not every one who calls Lord Lord will make it, so seeking his word and ways as wellas praying and living for him is the best thing to do and the way we are to live is written int he New Testament. Now, I do believe in the Old Testament as well and believe that God has always been here and will always be here and the events recorded in the old teastament really did happen, And we need to also remember that the old testament was written before Christ and the way they did things were completeley different casue they didn't have the savior of the World at that time, but the teachings of God I believe is the truth and even the old testament taught against the homosexual life style, The people were condememd for it but of coursre this is my interpretation and my belief and as I said at the beginning, to each their own, we have the freedom of choice to love our loves the way we choose and God himself will not take that freedom away from us but regardless of the choices we make, his Word is Truth and He shall prevail and in the end we will either be told well done or not.................

Quote From: gebham

A gay priest is to marry her long-term partner in Britian's first same-sex wedding this December.

Rev Debbie Gaston, 46, and Elaine Cook, 53, will join two other gay couples in a ceremony at Brighton's town hall. 

  

 

It will take place at one second past midnight on December 21, the first day when gay weddings are legal. 

The Civil Partnerships Bill comes into force on December 5 but, as with civil marriages, there is a 15-day period before couples can tie the knot. 

Ms Gaston, of the Metropolitan Community Church, is delighted to be tying the knot with her partner of 16 years, who has two adult children from a previous heterosexual marriage. 

She says that they both see this bill as a "huge step" in terms of equality, but there is still some way to go. 

"Until I can have a legal ceremony in the eyes of God I will not feel completely fulfilled," she said. 

The other couples, who will marry at the same time are Gino Meriano and his partner Mike Ullett, who run a wedding planner agency. 

The others are Roger Lewis, who works for Sussex Police, and his partner Keith Willmott-Goodall.  

All participants come from Brighton, where the council has been a supporter of civil partnerships since they were first mooted. 

  

  

It's a great example to many people who quarry over religion and homosexuality being deemed wrong in the 'eyes of god'. I for one think these people are full of crap, but i guess everyones entitled to their opinion. Is it just me, or does anybody else think a lot of group turn to religion to prevent something happening they are scared of? coincidence? mmm. (Before anyone says anything, i know the religious debate is a lot deeper and more indepth, but i thought a little light hearted sarcasm would be a refreshing take!) :) 

  

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Quote From: mommyjenna

 I was actually being sarcastic when I said that 3 or 4 people should be allowed to get married.   I do believe in the laws of God and believe He knew what He was doing when he set them forth.

It was in response to those who are saying it's none of our business or the governement's business:   if you were to ask them if three people should be allowed to marry, or should an adult brother and sister be allowed to marry, they would probably answer 'no' to both.

I also believe that the ideal parents for children is one mom and one dad. 

Quote From: dljgb2

 I am a mom, who is married, to her partner, and we have a fully functional family.  My kids are in school, they make great grades, they are loved and well cared for, they go to the doctor, church, family functions with us...as a family.  They kiss us and tell us how much they love us...and we love them.  We have a wonderful group of friends and families, who love us and respect our family. 
We are not viewed as "freaks" or "weirdo's"..because we aren't. 
Both of us are college educated women, who are professionals, and want our kids go grow up to be nonjudgemental or predjudice.  We live in a suburb with great neighbors and lots of kids that play with our kids. 

I am amazed at how "out there" some of these responses are.   I think you'd be amazed at how many gay people there are out there, that you are not aware of, that you interact with on a daily basis, that don't disclose their identity to you for these very reasons. 

Bottom line...we are very normal...at least my family is...I am married (in MA last year)  and it has not changed anything other than deepen the commitment I have to my spouse, and draw us closer as a family unit. 

Quote From: loretta24

Congratulations on your marriage.  Your response to this debate is what I feel needs to broadcast loud and clear, that there is no difference in your relationship and family than a more "traditional" family. 

  

It is unclear to me how a gay marriage would take away anything from a male/female marriage and I have yet to hear an argument that explains clearly how your marriage would mess up mine. 

  

If the opposition to gay marriage is based on religious grounds than we need to examine the fact that in the US there is separation of church and state.  We are free in this country to worship (or not worship) as we choose.  I understand that some religions/churches believes that homosexuality is a sin.  My religion does not, so why are those of my faith discriminated against because another religion feels it is wrong. 

  

It is my belief that the only fair way to handle this issue is to make Civil Unions apply to both male/female and gay couples.  Then if the couple chooses to marry in the eyes of God or Allah or whoever they may do so.  If a church is opposed they do not have to conduct those marriages.   If marriage is a religious issue then it should be removed from the governments control. 

Quote From: artemis21

For those of you that believe the Bible, good for you. But the United States isn't for Christians only. I was raised Jewish. I have friends who are Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, Hindu and Buddhist, and they all pay the same amount of taxes to this country and have the same right to worship or don't worship as they see fit. So don't use the Bible in legal matters. My father is Caucasian and my mother is Filipina, people in this country used the Bibled against interracial marriage not that long ago and according to some Christians I should have never been born because their book tells them so. 

  

As far as gay marriage goes, I don't realy see heterosexuals really keeping the "sanctity of marriage" alive. I really don't think gays could do any worse.  

  

Many gay people have children, being married would protect their children to have two parents instead of the non biological one or legal guardian just completely skipping on their obligations. So allowing gays to get married would protect children. Also, it would allow gays to protect themselves and their own assests better and have their spouse benefit from SS and medical benefits.  

  

I am not saying that you necessarily have to agree with their lifestyle, but no one is asking for you to. There are heterosexuals that do things all the time that I disagree with on ethical grounds but it's still their business. 

  

BTW, I am a happy, heterosexual female in a monogamous relationship. 

Quote From: artemis21

For those of you that believe the Bible, good for you. But the United States isn't for Christians only. I was raised Jewish. I have friends who are Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, Hindu and Buddhist, and they all pay the same amount of taxes to this country and have the same right to worship or don't worship as they see fit. So don't use the Bible in legal matters. My father is Caucasian and my mother is Filipina, people in this country used the Bibled against interracial marriage not that long ago and according to some Christians I should have never been born because their book tells them so. 

  

As far as gay marriage goes, I don't realy see heterosexuals really keeping the "sanctity of marriage" alive. I really don't think gays could do any worse.  

  

Many gay people have children, being married would protect their children to have two parents instead of the non biological one or legal guardian just completely skipping on their obligations. So allowing gays to get married would protect children. Also, it would allow gays to protect themselves and their own assests better and have their spouse benefit from SS and medical benefits.  

  

I am not saying that you necessarily have to agree with their lifestyle, but no one is asking for you to. There are heterosexuals that do things all the time that I disagree with on ethical grounds but it's still their business. 

  

BTW, I am a happy, heterosexual female in a monogamous relationship. 

Quote From: mommyjenna

 Loretta:

Are you raising boys?

As well, are you opposed to more than two people marrying.  What are your thoughts on, say 2 women and 1 man marrying each other?  Is it 'wrong' and why?