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Topic : 04/21 What's Hormones Got to Do with It?

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Created on : Friday, April 17, 2009, 09:49:25 am
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Six thousand women enter menopause every day, and studies have shown that the fairer sex can experience menopausal and perimenopausal symptoms as early as their 20s and 30s. Dr. Phil’s wife, Robin, author of What’s Age Got to Do with It? is on a mission to show the ladies how to embrace life changes with dignity and grace! First up, Robin recounts her own emotional and physical struggles with the change of life. Learn how she was able to get a handle on her mood swings and hot flashes. Then, Becky says she hasn’t gotten a good night's sleep in 12 years, and when she looks in the mirror, she sees a woman who has aged 10 years in 12 months. Find out what happens after Robin takes Becky under her wing! Next, meet a 33-year-old who says she’s chronically exhausted and lacks libido. What’s at the root of her condition? And, can men experience menopause? Learn the surprising facts! Plus, meet a physician who says she learned important hormone tips from Robin’s appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show, and hear from a woman who ignored her health symptoms and nearly lost her life. Talk about the show here.

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May 7, 2009, 4:33 pm CDT

Found a Dr. in Northern NJ

Quote From: dorothyflar

     After reading about bioidenticals and listening to TV personalities that use them, I, too, would like to try them. BUT.............after visiting my GYN and discussing this preference with them, I was told that I would have to find someone who would prescribe them, AND, if there were GYN problems associated with them, that they would NOT treat me. SO......................how do I find someone within my area who DOES believe in them, WILL prescribe and MONITOR them for me, AND will treat me if problems should arise???  This all seems so futile!!  WHY aren't there more physicians both knowledgeable and agreeable to this therapy!

It would be WONDERFUL not to feel like a neutered puppy!!!!!!!!!

Found a OB-GYN in Clifton, NJ, who is BOARD CERTIFIED in Bioidentical Hormones!!!.  Got an appointment to see her, but it's a 3 month wait.  Her name is Dr. Elizabeth Boyle.  Hopefully, she'll get me on the right track!
 
May 8, 2009, 11:48 am CDT

Drained but hopeful

Dear Robin & Dr.Phil

My name is Alisa and I am a 39 year old mom of 3. I took the perimenopausal test and geez - I am concerned. I used to be a relatively happy, energetic, and even creative. But for the last oh 7 years I do not even recognize myself- You know that phrase fake till you make it well I guess that should be my montra.

Because I have always been really in tune with my body, therefore when things seemed just not right I began going to several MDs: my primary then OB GYN  where I had some tests done and everything appeared to be relatively normal -After several visits and me sounding like some hypochondriac - I frankly gave up! Literally, I just do not have the drive to do anything,frankly I would rather just be in my room all day. Now as sad as it sounds- a voice inside me is always screaming "get up"" go do something" I know it sounds like I am a mental case- but truthfully speaking-I even went that route I was put on several types of antidepressants and to be honest I constantly struggled with the fact that I was not sad or depressed, sure I had plenty of stressors in my life and now more than ever-I think MDs just do not either listen to their patients I mean "really listen " anymore.  Long story short my symtoms got worse I literally felt like I had mono - I was extremely tired and lethargic for no apparrent reason, plus I had packed on 25lbs -which usually I have been able to maintain a healthy weight. There were many other symptoms like mentioned on the site -  So I finally after having to practically beg the MD for a referral to an Endocrinologist - I found out that I had four lumps on my thyroid and was started on synthroid- I actually started to feel better atleast i wasn't in bed all of the time, but after 3 months the symptoms were back (extreme fatigue, lethergy, fluc wt gain) I went back to the specialist and  my labs were all off so decided to lower the dose, I perceded to explain my symptoms &  the first thing he said was (and , Iam sorry if I hear this 1 more time I wil scream- he said " well dear you have three chilldren-no wonder your so tired"  I tried to explain that it was not that-his response was well I adjusted your synthroid give it a few months" 

Well a very LONG story short- I just saw him for that 3 mo ck up and although my labs were better I was not, I suggested iff it could be my hormones ,he said well you dont want that-there are so many side effects.  So basically I left with tears in my eyes - thinking this sucks! I am a young 39 year old woman what the heck is it!?. ----- Then the next day (God must of been listening because for some reason I had the time to watch Dr..Phil and there it was!!! - Hopefull answers and possible explanations for all of these symptoms.  

I admit I watch the show but i am not one to air my laundry out like this - this has been very personal, embarrassing and frustrating issue in my life which has effected  everyone in my home in some way or another .  Frankly, I am boldly asking, pleading for your help. We do not have any center like that here and I would be so greatfull if you would take me under your wing and refer me to the Hall Center.  Robin & Dr. Phil, please can you help me?  All my love, Alisa

 
May 8, 2009, 1:46 pm CDT

04/21 What's Hormones Got to Do with It?

Quote From: alisa1

Dear Robin & Dr.Phil

My name is Alisa and I am a 39 year old mom of 3. I took the perimenopausal test and geez - I am concerned. I used to be a relatively happy, energetic, and even creative. But for the last oh 7 years I do not even recognize myself- You know that phrase fake till you make it well I guess that should be my montra.

Because I have always been really in tune with my body, therefore when things seemed just not right I began going to several MDs: my primary then OB GYN  where I had some tests done and everything appeared to be relatively normal -After several visits and me sounding like some hypochondriac - I frankly gave up! Literally, I just do not have the drive to do anything,frankly I would rather just be in my room all day. Now as sad as it sounds- a voice inside me is always screaming "get up"" go do something" I know it sounds like I am a mental case- but truthfully speaking-I even went that route I was put on several types of antidepressants and to be honest I constantly struggled with the fact that I was not sad or depressed, sure I had plenty of stressors in my life and now more than ever-I think MDs just do not either listen to their patients I mean "really listen " anymore.  Long story short my symtoms got worse I literally felt like I had mono - I was extremely tired and lethargic for no apparrent reason, plus I had packed on 25lbs -which usually I have been able to maintain a healthy weight. There were many other symptoms like mentioned on the site -  So I finally after having to practically beg the MD for a referral to an Endocrinologist - I found out that I had four lumps on my thyroid and was started on synthroid- I actually started to feel better atleast i wasn't in bed all of the time, but after 3 months the symptoms were back (extreme fatigue, lethergy, fluc wt gain) I went back to the specialist and  my labs were all off so decided to lower the dose, I perceded to explain my symptoms &  the first thing he said was (and , Iam sorry if I hear this 1 more time I wil scream- he said " well dear you have three chilldren-no wonder your so tired"  I tried to explain that it was not that-his response was well I adjusted your synthroid give it a few months" 

Well a very LONG story short- I just saw him for that 3 mo ck up and although my labs were better I was not, I suggested iff it could be my hormones ,he said well you dont want that-there are so many side effects.  So basically I left with tears in my eyes - thinking this sucks! I am a young 39 year old woman what the heck is it!?. ----- Then the next day (God must of been listening because for some reason I had the time to watch Dr..Phil and there it was!!! - Hopefull answers and possible explanations for all of these symptoms.  

I admit I watch the show but i am not one to air my laundry out like this - this has been very personal, embarrassing and frustrating issue in my life which has effected  everyone in my home in some way or another .  Frankly, I am boldly asking, pleading for your help. We do not have any center like that here and I would be so greatfull if you would take me under your wing and refer me to the Hall Center.  Robin & Dr. Phil, please can you help me?  All my love, Alisa

There may  not be a "HALL CENTER" near where you live, but there are doctors all over the country who are amenable to prescribing bioidentical hormone replacement therapy.  It takes some searching.

 

The first thing I tell women to do is Google/Yahoo seach "compounding pharmacy" and the town or city where you live (if you live in a small town, try using the closest medium to large city).  Call one or more of the compounding pharmacies and they are likely going to be able to give you a referral to a doctor who uses BHRT in his/her practice, as nearly all BHRT is compounded, they know who is prescribing. 

 

If you to to a site called the Natural Woman Institute, there is a link at the top of their home page where you can email them and they will send you a list of doctors in your area.  Also, the site has an extensive list of compounding pharmacies, state by state. 

 

There is another site called Women in Balance, and on their website there is an area to find a practitioner by plugging in your zip code, a list comes back within 25, 50 or 100 miles of your location. 

 

There are a number of good books out to educate yourself on BHRT; some of the ones (written by  health care professionals)I recommend to women are:

 

What Your Doctor May Not Tell You about Menopause/Perimenopause (two different books, same author, pick the one best for your situation) by Dr. John Lee

The Youth Effect by Ron Brown

Hormones, Health and Happiness by Steven Hotze, MD

The Miracle of Bioidentical Hormones, M. Platt, MD

The Woman's Guide to Natural Hormones by Christine Conrad

 

I have a whole blog dedicated to BHRT and related womens issues at holyhormones.blogspot.com and my email address is holyhormones@gmail.com if I can help with any general questions. I am not a health care professional and I don't give that kind of advice, but I can point you in the right direction for resources and can offer you hope, BHRT no doubt saved my life. I've never felt better, the story of my personal journey is on the right side of my blog. 

 
May 9, 2009, 6:41 am CDT

04/21 What's Hormones Got to Do with It?

Quote From: dorothyflar

Found a OB-GYN in Clifton, NJ, who is BOARD CERTIFIED in Bioidentical Hormones!!!.  Got an appointment to see her, but it's a 3 month wait.  Her name is Dr. Elizabeth Boyle.  Hopefully, she'll get me on the right track!

Your post piqued my interest. I did about 45 minutes of searching on the Internet, and then finally just emailed my doctor to ask about board certification in BHRT. He said it does not exist; he is board certified in Internal Medicine and is a member of the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists.  I'm not saying this doctor is not completent, perhaps even terrific, but because BHRT is a relatively new protocol in medicine we need to be very careful about claims made by doctors and/or their offices, and also compounding pharmacies. I got an email a couple days ago from a woman who had prescriptions for BHRT from her physician, and her compounding pharmacy told her they couldn't fill them until she paid $150 for a consult with one of their phamacists (and the closest appointment was 3 weeks out).  They additionally told her that after the consultation, it would take 7-10 days to fill her prescriptions. Give me a break! She already has paid a doctor for a consult, so "consulting" (at a fee) with the pharmacist is absurd, and then 10 days for filling a prescription! Are you kidding me?  I'm not in any way blaming the patient, and I am so happy she put the question out there, using a compounding pharmacy is a new experience for many people.  God, I was so mad, that pharmacy was scamming her big time!

 

If there are general questions relating to finding a phamacy, doctor, etc. that I can answer, please feel free to email me at holyhormones@gmail.com.  I also have a blog on BHRT at holyhormones.blogspot.com and I am always delighted to have women check out the blog and learn more about BHRT and related womens' issues. Have a great day, everyone!

 
May 10, 2009, 5:30 pm CDT

04/21 What's Hormones Got to Do with It?

Quote From: krisann57

I feel like I'm losing my mind. I called several clinics today and they don't accept insurance. I'm using a compound RX and its not working. My Dr. has no knowledge. I really need help here in Roswell, GA
I typed in one of the zip codes for Rosewell GA (30075) into the Women In Balance website practitioner finder, and TONS of names came up within 25 miles of Rosewell, GA.  I stopped counting at 52 or so.  No one in that list takes insurance?  It often takes more than a few phone calls to find someone who practices using BHRT.
 
May 10, 2009, 5:39 pm CDT

04/21 What's Hormones Got to Do with It?

Quote From: cadescove99

Bio identical hormones are considered alternative medicine and do not qualify for insurance. Dr phil should be honest with us instead of letting his wife recommend something most of us cant afford!
While I agree that the show on bioidentical hormone therapy came across as a one hour infomercial for Mrs. McGraw's book rather than an educational show on BHRT, it is simply NOT TRUE that in all cases bioidentical hormone therapy is not covered by insurance!!!!!!  My doctor does not take insurance of any kind (and I don't blame him for the hassle it is to get reimbursed----if he accepted insurance he would lose money on every transaction because of the extra staffing he would need to handle the insurance companies), but I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield health insurance (and it's not even close to being their best plan) and after a protracted fight, and several appeals, the insurance covers almost 60-65% of the cost of my progesterone, testosterone, and estriol creams, as well as the compounded T3 thyroid hormone capsules I take 2x per day.  I'm getting frustrated that people are posting that flatly, across the board that insurance will not cover any costs of BHRT, it's misleading.  Some will, some won't, but unless you call your insurance company and find out, and challenge them why if they say no, you won't know and may be missing out on an important benefit.  If I can be of assistance in helping with finding a compounding pharmacy, doctor or providing a list of books that will help you learn more about BHRT (books written by doctors and health care professionals) please feel free to email me at holyhormones@gmail.com.  I have a blog dedicated to BHRT: holyhormones.blogspot.com  Best wishes to all for hormonal health!
 
May 20, 2009, 12:37 pm CDT

EXCITED TO GET BACK MY LIFE

AFTER WACTHING THE SHOW AND HEARING ROBIN TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE AND THE RESULTS FROM THE COMPOUNDING HORMONES I LOOKED ONLINE TO SEE IF THERE WAS HOPE FOR ME TO FEEL BETTER. I FOUND A DOCTOR THAT WORKED WITH THIS AND RIGHT AWAY WENT TO SEE THEM. I HAD THE TEST DONE TO CHECK MY LEVELS ...... WOW WAS THAT A SHOCK...I THOUGHT MY LIFE WOULD ALWAYS BE THE WAY IT HAS....I FELT I WAS DOOMED FOR A LIFE OF SADNESS AND FEELING ALONE ... SEEMED NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP ME...LIKE ROBIN MY DOCTOR HANDED ME SCRIPTS FOR MEDS THAT WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR ME...MY MOTHER HAD BOTH OF HER BREAST REMOVED AND I KNEW THAT TAKING THOSE MEDS COULD HURT ME MORE THAN HELP...BUT I DIDNT KNOW I HAD OTHER OPTIONS...I TOOK THEM ON AND OFF ... I COULDNT HANDLE THE WAY I FELT ... FINALLY LAST YEAR I TOOK MYSELF OFF OF THEM ALL TOGETHER....I HAVE HAD A ROUGH TIME AND FOUND THAT THE MIND OVER MATTER... AND IT DONT MATTER WASNT WORKING FOR ME...I GAINED WEIGHT ...WAS DEPRESSED ...THERE WASNT A NIGHT THAT DIDNT INCLUDE HOT FLASHES AND NIGHT SWEATS...I BEGAN TO FORGOT THINGS AND SINCE THEN I HAVE BECOME VERY WITHDRAWN ...CRYING AND SAD MOST OF THE TIME ...I TRIED TO STAY STRONG AND JUST DEAL WITH IT!!! BUT I FOUND WHEN ROBIN SPOKE THAT DAY...WAS THE BEGINING OF MY NEW BEGINING...I CRIED AND PRAYED THERE WAS A HAPPY ENDED TO THIS HELL I HAVE BEEN IN... YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST DAY OF MY HORMONES MADE JUST FOR ME!!! YES ME I WAS THAT IMPORTANT...SMILES AND HOPE FOR THE FUTURE !!!!! IF I HADNT SEEN THE SHOW I WOULD BE AT THE SAME PLACE... NOW I CAN LOOK FORWARD TO FEELING BETTER ...I AM SURE THIS WILL NOT BE OVER NIGHT MY NUMBERS ARE WAY OFF FROM WHAT THEY SHOULD BE..BUT EACH DAY WILL BE A DAY CLOSER TO FEELING BETTER....ROBIN IF YOU ARE READING THIS ----YOU GAVE ME BACK MY LIFE --- GOD BLESS YOU

 
May 21, 2009, 12:03 pm CDT

what's hormones got to do with it ??/

Quote From: momof2rugrats

Hi Everyone, this is my first time posting on the message boards for Dr. Phil. I missed the show about hormones, I wanted to see it so badly!I was on my way to BodyLogicMD the same day the show was on.  They are highly trained physicians in the area of BioIdentical Hormones.

 

I had a hysterectomy 3 years ago, leaving one ovary. I was never told to get my hormone levels checked often. The reason for leaving the one ovary, the dr. said to prevent from having hormonal problems. 3 years later my hormones are declining. I have never felt the same after I had the hysterectomy. As each year went by, I just begin to feel a little worse.

 

I went to my GYN for help, because my sister in law mentioned getting my hormones checked. I was so emotional over every little thing.  I seen the nurse practitioner in the office. She gave me a shot of estrogen & I was still a mess. She said if it were my hormones, the shot would have made me feel all better that same day! I am here to tell you, I'm glad I didn't listen to her. There is so much more to hormones than JUST estrogen!! She told me testosterone didn't matter. I told my Dr. at BodyLogic that and she was like WHAT?I have felt so depressed, tired and I was crying all day every day. And being low on Testosterone can cause all of that, plus I have ZILCHO sex drive. I found out my testosterone level was so low it was not even near being on the chart at the low end?They tested my Cortisol levels thru saliva 4 times thru out the day. All of them were at the very low range and the evening test was below range. It is a good indicator to test for Adrenal Fatigue. With my cortisol levels all being low, that is why I am also feeling SO tired. I started my regimen of BIO'S today being estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, a multi vitamin & I am also taking something for Adrenal Gland support.

 

The place that I went to tested me for Estradiol, Progesterone, Testosterone, DHEA-S, Cortisol levels for morning, noon, evening & night. Free T4, Free T3, TSH, TPO (all of those were for the thyroid), Insulin, hsCRP, Hemoglobin A1c, Triglycerides, Cholesterol, LDL Cholesterol.

 

The BioIdentical Hormones are not as expensive as people think. I am sure people on a tight budget already may not be able to afford extra. But, the scripts for each ran me about 25-30$. And when you get the right dosage, you can have them combine them into one tube.

 

I hope all of the women that need help, find relief!This is just a horrible way to live, it hasn't been a fun road for me.

 

Good Luck To All,

Amber

IF GOD BRINGS US TO IT HE'LL SEE US THROUGH IT...  Good luck...I can relate I also posted my first message.  I got to see the show and it was what made me realize that I had other options. It is a horrrible way to live I agree and with time and help with the bioidentical hormones we will be feeling better soon...God Bless You .... Gina

 
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