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Created on : Thursday, May 14, 2009, 06:32:42 pm
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A drunk driving fatality happens approximately every 40 minutes. Therate of alcohol-related accidents is 22 times higher than the deathrate for American soldiers killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Whyis a person with one, two or more DUI's allowed to get behind the wheelof a car? Is the system failing to protect us? Recently, Nick Adenhart,a pitcher for the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, was killed in a crashinvolving an alleged drunk driver. But he wasn't the only person wholost his life. His friends Courtney Stewart and Henry Pearson were alsokilled, and Jon Wilhite was left in critical condition. Hear Courtney'smom, Carrie, tell the tragic story of how her only daughter was"murdered" by a man who was reportedly driving with a suspended licenseand had one DUI conviction. Next, Mary was in the car with her husbandand 22-year-old son when they were hit by a drunk driver, and the youngman was killed. Mary is now a representative for Mothers Against DrunkDriving (MADD). Then, Dawn is a repeat offender with two DUIs. Shespent a night in jail, had a breathalyzer installed in her car and paidover $12,000 in legal fees, but says she still occasionally drivesafter drinking. Will she put down the bottle after Dr. Phil gives her awake-up call, and she meets Carrie and Mary? Also joining thediscussion is Jeanine Pirro, a hard-hitting, lock-'em-up judge who saysAmericans should be outraged and repeat offenders should be locked up,and Neil Shouse, a high-powered DUI defense attorney who says peopleare overzealous in prosecuting drunk drivers. Are drunk driving lawsharsh enough? You decide. And, do you know when you've reached thelegal blood-alcohol limit? Dr. Phil gives you pertinent information soyou know when you've tossed back too many. Join the discussion.

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May 18, 2009, 2:36 pm CDT

05/18 DUI Outrage

I wanted to say that everyone makes mistakes. I believe that people sometimes do things and not know the severity of this issue or probably don’t care. The problem is our pride and the belief that nothing will happen to us. I want to tell all the people that have lost someone from DUI that I am SORRY for your lost. I am guilty in driving with having a few drinks in my system and have been fortunate not to take any lives.  When I heard Dawn, I was not only angry at the way she responded but also angry with myself for having done all that as well and how irresponsible I feel.  When I was 18 years old, society and the movie industry made me believe drinking was fun and one of the things that you must experience as an adult. I would go to the clubs till it closes and drive home intoxicated. As I got older, the clubbing seen got old. I no longer go to the clubs but occasionally drink after a hard days of work at restaurants with colleagues.  I am now 32years old and consider myself a good citizen with a good driving record.  I still drink occasionally but because of this show, I would consider drinking responsibly (more so at home) or consider not drinking at all.

 
May 18, 2009, 2:50 pm CDT

TWO SIDED COIN

I FEEL FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GET AFFECTED BY DRUNK DRIVERS...I REALLY DO! BUT I'M SAD THAT ONE THING NEVER GETS MENTIONED OR ASKED WHEN TALKING ABOUT ALLEGED DRUNK DRIVING ACCIDENTS.  THE LAWS ARE THERE AS A GENERAL RULE TO TRY AND PROTECT PEOPLE FROM HARM AND I GET THAT...AND I TOTALLY AGREE.  MY PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN A COLLISION OCCURS THE PERSON TO BLAME IS NOT ALWAYS THE ONE THAT GETS BLAMED.  EVEN SOBBER PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES AND CAUSE ACCIDENTS ON A DAILY BASIS...BUT WHEN THAT ACCIDENT OCCURS AND ATHE OTHER PERSON HAS HAD EVEN ONE DRINK AND ONLY REGISTERS AT 0.3, THAT PERSON BECAUSE OF ALCOHOL GETS BLAMED....PERFECT SENARIO....A MAN HEADING OUT OF OUR TOWN HAD HAD A FEW...( I DON'T KNOW HIS ALCOHOL LEVEL)....ON A STRAIGHT ROAD THAT YOU CAN SEE SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET...A COUPLE AT THE AREA CEMETARY WANTS TO PULL OUT AND HEAD INTO TOWN....THEY COULD SEE HIM AND THEY STILL PULLED OUT AND CUT HIM OFF.....THEY DIED AND HE SURVIVED! BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN DRINKING IT WAS AUTOMATICALLY HIS FAULT.  AND THAT IS WRONG!!!!!  THOSE PEOPLE OR THE PERSON DRIVING MADE A BAD JUDGEMENT CALL AND IT COST THEM THEIR LIVES....IT WASN'T THE OTHERS FAULT....I FEEL BAD THAT THEY DIED BUT SOMEWHERE ACCOUNTABILITY SHOULD BE PLACED WHERE IT IS DESERVED.  THAT NEVER GETS ASKED WHEN THESE CASES COME UP WITH THIS TOPIC.....SHAME ON ALL OF YOU.  I DISAPROVE OF DRUNK DRIVING BUT REALIZE THAT SOMETIMES STUPID PEOPLE GET OFF WITHOUT BLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
May 18, 2009, 2:52 pm CDT

05/18 DUI Outrage

Recently, Lubbock, Texas recently had an election to pass alcohol sales in the city limits.  I honestly can't say how angry I am about this.  Until this proposition brings back the SEVEN friends I have lost due to another person's selfishness, I will never support it.  I love this city, but I'm so angry that mostly the 18-25 crowd went out to vote and hardly any of the 35+ crowd went out, it's... ugh... it's so insane.  What's interesting are the people who didn't vote, are now complaining about it.  I'm 25.  I went out the day early voting began and voted against this.  This is a college town.  As a college student I can honestly say, a lot of college students are idiots.  I've had my own fair share of dumb moments, but I do not drink. Ever.  My dad is a substance abuse counselor and hearing some of the stories his clients share.... I have vowed to never touch alcohol or drugs for the rest of my life.  Alcohol will not even be served at my wedding.  My friends, however, do enjoy a drink.  I don't care if they drink one or twenty beers, shots, or whatever, they already know I will take their keys and I will be driving them home.  Listening to Dawn... I don't know how those mothers can sit by her.  I would have already be escorted off the stage by officer with assault charges.  I think it's sad that her friends give her stupid nicknames instead of taking her keys or telling her she's had enough.  My friends may hate for a little bit for what I do to them, but when the alcohol wears off, they apologize.  I'm not losing anymore loved ones to this damned thing.  As a substitute teacher and future full time teacher, I know that schools are informing children beginning in first grade about the dangers of alcohol and drugs.  It's sad that with all the knowledge we try to give children, teens, and young adults, (using the number of students at the district I work at) 16% of them will die because of alcohol. SIXTEEN PERCENT.  Three months ago, a 2nd grade student and his mother were murdered by a drunk driver.  The school united to raise money for the surviving family and for alcohol awareness.  God bless those children, and god forgive us for stealing one of their own.
 
May 18, 2009, 3:12 pm CDT

05/18 DUI Outrage

Quote From: raymom5

In the State of Ohio, DUI offenders are given licence plates that are yellow with red numbers and letters.  It's a GREAT idea...but we need more than just that. 

The plates are only required while they have a "restricted" drivers license!  Once they get full privileges back the plates come off.
 
May 18, 2009, 3:17 pm CDT

Drunk Driving

Driving a vehicle is a privilage as someone on the show stated; with this privilage comes responsibility. A vehicle is a very dangerous machine. The weight the average vehicle is 4000 Lbs. I feel that with an increase in traffic on the roads that drinking and driving should be completely banned. There should be no tolerance for drinking and driving to any extent.  0 Blood level at all times....!

How do we prevent unlicensed drivers from getting behind the wheel and those with suspensions due to DUI?

You can't prevent this from happening. It's human nature that some people will not follow the law.

You can protect yourself......and your friends and family....

  • Don't drink and drive and don't ride with anyone who has too much to drink.
  • Volunteer to be a designated driver.
  • Always use a safety seat belt.
  • Use four-lane highways whenever possible.
  • Avoid rural roads.
  • Avoid travel after midnight (especially on Fridays and Saturdays).
  • Choose vehicles with airbags.
  • Refer to safety ratings before selecting your next vehicle. See "Buying a Safer Car" (www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/NCAP).
  • Never use illegal drugs. Illicit drugs are involved in a large proportion of traffic fatalities.
  • Never drive when fatigued. The dangers posed when fatigued are similar to those when intoxicated. Drivers who drift off cause about 72,500 injuries and deaths annually.
  • Don't use a car phone, put on make-up, comb your hair, or eat while driving.
  • Steer clear of aggressive drivers. Aggressive drivers may be responsible for more deaths than drunk drivers.
Contact Police if you Suspect a Drunk Driver on the Road

Common signs of drunk driving include any of the following:
  • Turning with a wide radius.
  • Straddling the center of the road or lane marker.
  • Appearing to be drunk (i.e., eye fixation, face close to windshield, drinking in the vehicle).
  • Almost striking an object or other vehicle.
  • Weaving or zigzagging across the road.
  • Driving on other than a designated roadway.
  • Swerving or abruptly turning away from a generally straight course.
  • Turning abruptly or illegally.
  • Driving slower than 10 mph below speed limit.
  • Stopping without cause in a traffic lane.
  • Stopping inappropriately (other than in lane).
  • Drifting or moving in a straight-line at a slight angle to the roadway.
  • Erratic braking.
  • Driving into opposing or crossing traffic.
  • Signaling that is inconsistent with driving actions.
  • Slow response to traffic signals (sudden stop, delayed start).
You may just save a life....!

With Love....

Charmaine
A Woman's Touch Landscaping Inc







 
May 18, 2009, 3:20 pm CDT

Straight to jail!

I have a friend who spouted the same crap that Dawn is spouting about driving better when drunk. After I pulled my jaw off the floor, I told her that friend or not if I ever found out she was drinking & driving I would phone the police and report her. She hasn't really talked to me since but to bad.
 
May 18, 2009, 3:21 pm CDT

laws are not strong enough

It wiil be two years next month since my friend tina and her sister were killed by a nineteen year old drunk driver. In washington state we need stronger punishments so badly. Because it was her first offense, and in washington state vehicular homicide is not treated as murdering someone face to face, she served six months in jail for killing two good people. This teenager left three children without a mom and was seen at a party less than two weeks later by a friend of tinas family, drunk and bragging about her mommy's and daddy's lawers that were going to get her out of trouble. Something has to be done about drunk driving, please....
 
May 18, 2009, 3:27 pm CDT

watch out

As far as Dawn is concerned we can only hope that now her face is all over tv, with luck the cops & good samaritans will pull her over & report her any time you see her driving because she is drunk all the time.
I realize she has a major problem, hopefully Dr Phil. can get her help. Although I doubt it.
 
May 18, 2009, 3:34 pm CDT

DUI OUTRAGE

My nephew got a DUI and all he got was a slap on the wrist.  I was so madd that the system let him back on the road.  I see signs all over the place DUI killed here.  I asked my nephew if he was going for help he said no.  I am outraged with my sister not making him go to aa meetings  and taking his car and keys away.  He was 22 at the time.  The sytem fails when we need it to work the most.  This is what I think the system should do first time DUI. 120 days in jail no sooner,  no license for three years, car impounded for three years and AA meetings for three year and major fines also I think they should have to report to a probation officer and have drug screenings for two years. Driving is a privledge they need to respect that.  I was always told growing up don't drink and drive.  I met my husband when I was 16 years old he was 22 years old.  We have been together for 20 years we have never gotten behind a wheel if we had a single drink.  When we go out I am usually the designated driver because he calls me a light weight and I am we joke about it.  When it's a sepcial celebration like my birthday he will drive and not drink and I will have only one drink because that is all I know I can handle.  Throwing up and acting stupid when drunk what kind of fun is that?  I have seen my friends do that I don't see the point in it.  To me that's a night ruined. I  have taken their car keys away from them and called their parents to come and get them when we used to go out.  Now I don't even hang out with those friends anymore cause all they do is go out and drink.  I would rather spend $100.00 on things we need like food instead of drinks.

 

To go on national television and ask if they are an alcoholic and not taking responsiblity for themselves that it supidity. Who does that? I can't believe I witnessed  her saying that today on the Dr Phil show I was outraged. 

 
May 18, 2009, 3:35 pm CDT

This kind of mentality make me furious!

Quote From: riragirl

I can't believe the hatred and viciousness in people's voices when they are talking about people who have a DUI. In 2006 I made a mistake that I will never forget about, and I will never repeat again.  I thought I was being responsible by waiting 4 hours after drinking one drink to drive.  When  I took the breathalizer I was positive that I would be under the limit becasue of how long I waited to drive.  I wasn't a heavy drinker before my DUI, and I don't drink but once in a while now.  I really took offense to the disgust that was in these women's voices.  I am one of those people who is not a repeat offender.  Doctor say alcoholism is a disease, well lets work together as a community to help these people to change, rather than talk as if they are scum of the earth.  I know that loved ones have been lost to drunk drivers and they are angry, but the way to handle this topic is through love, hard work, and support, not attacking these people and put them on defense.  Trust me, when people are defensive, they get hard headed and don't listen to anything you have to say to them.  I don't agree with what people on this board are saying about punishment needing to be harsher for first time offenders.  I can say through experience, 3 years of not driving because I can't afford $400 a month for regular insurance, and $7,000 later that if I had to spend time in jail, I would be in even more debt and hardship than I am in already.  Since my DUI I haven't able to get a job that would pay well, and in the state that I live in you have to put a DUI on an employment application as a felony.  I think that what I have been through in the past three years has been punishment enough.  If I didn't have people in my life who loved and supported me through this, I don't know where I would be.  I do agree that repeat offenders need to be held accountable though, people make mistakes, we shouldn't judge them until we see them make the mistake knowinglly again.

YOU BETTER GET READY TO BE ON THE DEFENSIVE BECAUSE I'M NOT MINCING ANY WORDS!  YOU NOT ONLY CHOSE TO DRINK AND DRINK, BUT YOU ALSO CHOSE TO TAKE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE'S LIVES INTO YOUR HANDS THAT DAY/NIGHT.  AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO GET ANGRY AT THOSE THAT TRY TO PREVENT IT? DID YOU EVER STOP TO THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF SLAMMING INTO A VEHICLE WITH AN INFANT OR CHILD AND KILLING THEM?  OR PERHAPS KILLING ONE OR BOTH OF  THEIR PARENTS?  WHOSE PITY ARE YOU TRYING GAIN WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCERPT? 

 

"I can say through experience, 3 years of not driving because I can't afford $400 a month for regular insurance, and $7,000 later that if I had to spend time in jail, I would be in even more debt and hardship than I am in already.  Since my DUI I haven't able to get a job that would pay well, and in the state that I live in you have to put a DUI on an employment application as a felony.  I think that what I have been through in the past three years has been punishment enough." 

 

DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF?  IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU, NOT YOUR POTENTIAL VICTIM(S)!  YOU KNOWINGLY TOOK THE RISK OF KILLING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT HAVING TO PAY HIGHER INSURANCE AND DUI FEE'S?  NOT TO MENTION, THE INABILITY TO GET A DECENT PAYING JOB?  LET ME ASK YOU, CONSIDERING YOUR HISTORY OF DRUNK DRIVING EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF SELF-RESPECTING EMPLOYER DO YOU THINK WOULD TAKE YOU AS A LIABILITY?  THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE NOW.  I'M ECSTATIC THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO LIST YOUR DUI AS A FELONY ON EMPLOYMENT APPLICATIONS!  THAT'S THE CONSEQUENCES YOU SUFFER FOR YOUR ACTIONS AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THAT'S A REALLY SMALL PRICE TO PAY.  HONESTLY, YOU ARE THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF THE CONSEQUENCES ONE HAS ENDURE FOR HI/SHER ACTIONS.  YOU COULD HAVE MENTIONED IT IN A POSITIVE MANNER, BUT YOU AGAIN YOU CHOSE TO BE SELFISH.

 

LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.  "WE" SHOULDN'T JUDGE PEOPLE LIKE YOU, YET WE'RE SUPPOSE TO ALLOW THEM MORE THAN ONE ATTEMPT TO KILL SOMEONE?  SORRY DARLIN, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! FUNNY HOW THAT ACCUSATION ALWAYS SURFACES WHEN SOMEONE IS JUST TRYING TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF SOMETHING.  YOU SAY PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES LIKE IT SHOULD BE "WATER OFF OUR BACKS." IT'S NOT YOU OR OTHERS LIKE YOU THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT.  AS I'VE STATED THROUGHOUT MY REPLY, MY FIRST AND FOREMOST CONCERN IS FOR THE POTENTIAL VICTIMS!

 

I have to give credit where it's do.  Alcoholism is a disease and a serious one at that.  I understand that alcoholics can't control their cravings; however, they can control getting behind the wheel of a vehicle.  So you're gonna have to come up with something else to convince me.  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate alcoholics.  One of my dearest friends suffers from alcoholism, but after his first DWI he chose not to drink and drive anymore.  Last Summer I asked him to meet me somewhere for lunch but he point blank told me he had been drinking and he wouldn't leave his house.

 
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