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Created on : Friday, August 12, 2005, 06:18:21 pm
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(Original air date 04/19/05) They're not just lurking on the schoolgrounds. Now, bullies can come into your home and torture your children over e-mail, instant messages and other Web forums. It's an epidemic that has kids withdrawing socially, dropping out of school, and in some cases, tragically taking their own lives. Dr. Phil and his son Jay talk to two teens who can't escape the intimidation and abuse. Then, pop star Clay Aiken, who was picked on as a child, shares how he got the bullying to stop. Share your thoughts here.

 

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August 16, 2005, 9:01 pm PDT

making friends

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Hey my name is jordan price!! I go to a privite school and i am in 8th grade there!! I like it except 4 the fact that i have no friends!!  I mean i have friends at school ,but not like out of school friends!!! I really like what clay said about what his mother told him!!! I am really trying to show Christ through my actions ,but it is hard 2 do that in such a snobby group of people!!!

Jordan, I had a tough time making friends when I was your age and sometimes even still today as an adult because of how shy I was.  The thing that helped me was joining activities with people doing things that I like to do.   

An example is that I played baseball, basketball, bowling, swimming and many other things.  These are activities that usually require more than one person to compete.  Recently I went to a high school reunion and we all shared our stories talking about the good times we had playing those games.  So we are still friends today because I joined those activities with them.  I sometimes wish I would've even done more in school.  If you don't like sports there are other clubs you could join.  Good luck! 

 
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August 16, 2005, 9:25 pm PDT

08/16 Bullies

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I sat there today and watched that little boy, and it literally brought tears to my eyes.  That little boy was me, 26 years ago.  The only difference is that my parents always said "I must be doing something to deserve what I got." 

  

I could go on for hours telling horror stories of my experiences.  Instead I'm going to talk about how they stopped. 

  

The day they stopped, I got beat up just like any other day.  Except this day I fought back.  I fought back until a Vice Principal of my school came and pulled me off the kid. 

  

It was then I realized that bullies don't like being hurt any more than I did. 

  

Now that I'm a parent, AND have been a horrible victim of bullying, I am teaching my daughter to be nice and respectful to everybody.  To her everybody is an equal - UNTIL she gets bullied.  If she gets pushed, she's allowed to push back harder.  If she's hit, she's allowed to hit the kid until that kid doesn't get up.  Period. 

  

We as parents can instill all kinds of great advice and "you're a good person, so believe in yourself" dogma into our children, but the reality is that when kids are sitting on your child's chest, having a spitting contest on your child's face, it's pretty hard to reinforce that type of teaching. 

  

All you can do is give them the tools to be able to fight back, and teach them the ability to judge when the right time is to use the tools.  That is the ONLY way to stop bullies. 

  

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It is so difficult to discuss this because I was also bullied and although I noticed some differences in  

the behavior of those who bullied me after I hit them, there were more where they came from.  I totally believe in defending yourself when being attacked but I think I do believe that it might be possible to make a plan.  Many times when people are attacked they are attacked verbally first  

and then then it escalates.  Have a plan on how you're going to handle it verbally before it escalates to violence.  Even as an adult, I have been verbally acosted and I just retort back, something.  I found that even sometimes ignoring if it is a situation where there's no one around.  If someone messes with you verbally and you display to them that you are just as witty I believe that you can  

fend them off.  I found out that adult males do have a game in which they insult each other.  I perfected it where I would plan what I was going to say to them.  I got so good that they stopped 

or we just had fun poking and prodding at each other.  I also built up my skills in other areas of my life, sports, music, lifting weights, learned spanish.  People started respecting me more and now I teach  in high school and make my efforts to prevent any bullying that goes on.  I believe that it will not stop because in the halls and outside after school there are so many opportunities for kids to talk stuff.  There are many angry children who need to take out their frustrations on some weaker or more sensitive soul.   

Just an opinion.     

 
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August 16, 2005, 9:59 pm PDT

Need some info

hello everyone 

this is my first time here,, today I heard Dr. phil said that there are some computer programs that can track all the activities on line,,, I know it's matter of privacy but also I think these day as a parents I need to do and know more about all the pages that my girls visit and all the emails they do recive and send,,, can somebody please give me some name or how and where I can find more about such programs,,, thanks 

 

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August 16, 2005, 11:01 pm PDT

BULLIES

I just want to encourage those that are being bullied that good things will come.  People that bully others have nothing better to do than to make your life miserable...........AND THAT IS WRONG!  I feel so bad for the mother of the daughter that committed suicide due to the years of the agony.   What really disturbs me is the fact that no one..........NOT EVEN ADMINISTRATORS DID NOTHING ABOUT THIS.  Just to let the teens that are being bullied.........and parents too........that there was a case that was won in Toganoxie, KS just recently........a $250,000 case that was won, because the teen sued the school district for years of being brutally bullied and no action was taken AT ALL.  There is a zero tolerace policy and THAT policy needs to be very tough for BULLIES! 

  

BULLIES NEED TO GET A LIFE AND STICK TO EDUCATION!!!!!!! 

 

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August 16, 2005, 11:22 pm PDT

BULLYING HAS TO STOP!!

In order for bullying to stop, everyone has to do their part. It may not be the #1 killer of kids, but it does kill kids, and actually, it almost killed me... twice. Education is key. 


I've been through all of that myself, on both ends in a way. I was bullied for years while at home, my father was being abusive. It wasn't easy by any stretch of the imagination. Once, I almost committed suicide, and after changing schools, I was shot at by another kid who had been bullied. Two of my classmates got shot, one of them was killed.

 
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August 17, 2005, 5:53 am PDT

A Solution

Hello everyone.  I would like to quickly point something out. 

  

1. save all of these emails, document every instance of abuse (with names of people who were nearby witnessing as well)  

2. take it to the police. 

  

As adults, if someone were to hit or abuse me via phone, email, or face to face, it would be called harrassment or assault. 

  

In this case, the laws don't change just because "kids will be kids."   

  

I know this doesn't solve everything, but I know it will help some.   

 
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August 17, 2005, 6:29 am PDT

How'd it go?

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My daughter attended school in the same district from pre-K to 7th grade and was bullied from the 4th grade on. She was called many bad names, some that she didn't even know what they meant. She was flipped in the ear, hit in the forehead, just stupid things that the other kids thought were funny. Many days, when I picked her up from school, she would burst into tears as soon as she got into the car. 

She would go to the guidance counselor & the principal & the vice principal and complain and they would tell her to "toughen up" and quit "whining" and "tattling". I called the school, school board, everyone I could think of. I went to the school and the principal told me because I hadn't made an appt. with her, she couldn't talk to me. I refused to leave until someone in authority talked to me. We're not talking about a gigantic school, either...maybe 300 students in grades 5-8 total. 

Finally, in her 7th grade year, the school board assigned a new principal to the school. He was no better. Girls (I assume) wrote things on the restroom wall and locker room wall about her, calling her a lesbian and a freak and all kinds of things. 

Once again, I went to the school and complained. The principal told me to "calm down" and that he would try to have the janitorial staff paint over the writing. And, that he couldn't do anything, because whoever wrote those things didn't sign their name. 

She's a very smart child...an honors student. She's one year above above the others in her class because she actually started kindergarten when she was 4, so she's a year younger than the other children in her class. 

I've had it. This year, I enrolled her in a different district. It's a little further travel, but at least she's getting a "fresh start". Her first day in her new school was yesterday...and for once in years, she's actually excited about going to school. 

Thanks for letting me voice this. 

  

Hi there! I wanted to know how the first day went for your daughter? I hope well and I hope you can now relax and feel better and safe.
 
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August 17, 2005, 7:31 am PDT

The human condition. "Bullies" What we are evolving in to?

I feel that I have a great idea for America poeple and the world. And this idea is over due. Because we all need to make this a better home are earth. 
 
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August 17, 2005, 7:38 am PDT

To Jordan

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Hey my name is jordan price!! I go to a privite school and i am in 8th grade there!! I like it except 4 the fact that i have no friends!!  I mean i have friends at school ,but not like out of school friends!!! I really like what clay said about what his mother told him!!! I am really trying to show Christ through my actions ,but it is hard 2 do that in such a snobby group of people!!!
Hi Jordan, I am very sorry for the trouble you are having a school. I would like to tell you that I am proud that you are trying to be a light in all that darkness. God sees that and honors that and believe that you will be rewarded in Heaven. You will also see as the years pass who succeeds in life and who fails which is a greater reason to keep your head up and keep pushing. I have no doubt you will go on to be a great achiever and an awesome person!
 
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August 17, 2005, 8:36 am PDT

Admiring Tess and Mark

When I was watching the Dr. Phil show about Bullies, I felt real bad about the unrelentingly harsh treatment that both Tess and Mark were receiving. However, they both had a lot of courage to appear on the show and now have world wide exposure. Admitting that they have been victimizedin front of a live audience must have been real embarrassing. At least they were willing to go through by applying rational methods to do something about it. By watching the show, thousands of children and teenagers will realize that they are not alone and they can have a significant level of empowerment upon their routines at school. 

  

The key thing that Tess and Mark have that I never had were caring and supportive parents. When I was around Tess's age, I would get bullied both at school AND at home as my parents were bullying me too. I have had to totally disengage from all of my biological relatives in order to get my life back & not let my unforgiving past tormenting me so much. Tess and Mark, please keep leaning on your family for strength and realize that it's what you got on the inside that matters the most.  

 
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