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Created on : Friday, August 12, 2005, 06:18:21 pm
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(Original air date 04/19/05) They're not just lurking on the schoolgrounds. Now, bullies can come into your home and torture your children over e-mail, instant messages and other Web forums. It's an epidemic that has kids withdrawing socially, dropping out of school, and in some cases, tragically taking their own lives. Dr. Phil and his son Jay talk to two teens who can't escape the intimidation and abuse. Then, pop star Clay Aiken, who was picked on as a child, shares how he got the bullying to stop. Share your thoughts here.

 

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August 18, 2005, 4:09 pm PDT

08/16 Bullies

Quote From: corinnemom

The Anti Bullying Law in Texas that I was fighting to get passed was signed by the Governor and it is now a law.  Next is to make it a more comprehensive law, make it a much stronger law.  I fight on a daily basis to make sure that no one forgets Corinne and the horibble treatment she received at the hands of her bullies. As well as the inexusable way that the school, law enforcement and the girls parents handled it.  After the show aired, the father of one of the girls sent out an email to the school faculty saying that I was the real bully and that I had failed to mention that Corinne was depressed and on medication (which she was not) that she was abused (which she was not) that she was dealing with a domestic situation (which she was not)  it is obvious now where his daughter learned this behavior. I miss my sweet girl more everyday and the pain of living life without her will never go away.  Thank you for all of your kind words and encouragement.  Rochelle, Corinne's Mom  

The Best Job God Ever Gave ME  09/30/91 - 10/06/04  

  

Many, many hugs.  I can't even express how sorry I am for what happened.  You have found a strength in this and have done something wonderful, for that I commend you.   

  

I do believe too that this bullying attitude stems from the parents, things like that are learned behavior sometimes.  Parents pass on prejudices and attitudes and it takes a strong child to learn that their parents aren't always right. 

  

I wish you all the best, and all the strength 

~Ceno 

 

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August 20, 2005, 1:47 pm PDT

aerosol bullies

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 The girl who sent me to the hospital for the last time now has two children and never graduated from high school.  I on the other hand am 22 graduated from college and just bought a house on my own.  I spent 6th-8th grade crying and hiding from my classmates.  I left in 9th grade went to a private school and returned to the public school for the remaining high school years.  When I returned I made up my mind to be proud of myself and know that at the end of the day if God was pleased with me that was all that mattered. 
 I now have to fight my feelings of pride when i go home.  All the people who made fun of me and did horrible things are still in our small town and not happy with their lives.  I on the other hand am so happy and thankful that this made me stronger.
 My mom told me every morning "this to shall pass" and it did.
I am glad that you did better in life than your bullies---and I'm sure my daughter will as well --ssumuing that she is able to finish school --if tye cntinue to ebd her hme with every asthma attack she will fail again --and if all they are willing to do is have a talk with the bullies --then this year will be even more dangerous than the last one --the last girl who sprayed my daigter threatened to do it again and again until she was dead ---but teh school didn't think that was a threat --I think it's about time for the bullies to be removed from the classrooms and their vistims allowed to get their educations in peace
 
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August 20, 2005, 5:20 pm PDT

Has to stop. has happend to one of my friends.

This stuff is just horrible, this has to stop. One of my friends took her life because of bullies. It's similair to the story of what happened to Corrine. I actually almost cried hearing that story. I couldnt get it out of my head so i have even wrote a poem and made a poetry contest to give the mother support(although i'm not sure if she will ever see them) but i really want to find a way to give her these poems from the contest that im upholding on Allpoetry... I'm not sure how to do anything to let her see them but i really hope i can find a way to do so.if you want the link email me to cmc129991@hotmail.com . I myself have actually helped a kid on a last Tuesday at school. I dont know if its just because of this but this did something. I am actually now helping kids at my school no matter what it does to my "coolness". although to me no one is "cool"  or a "nerd"... I'm hoping to make a difference in my school for this show has made me want to help other people.I've always thought the show was stupid but now i am really interested in it.  

 
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August 22, 2005, 11:02 am PDT

Clarification

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You are basically saying that since Tess isn't ugly or overweight she cant be bullied. in most cases it only takes 2 or 3 extremely popular people to get everyone else to act like they hate her cause they fear they are gonna end up like Tess is why everyone does that. its just PEER PRESSURE.  

    

I understand that a lot of people have a hard time believing that they, themselves, have a hand a the continuation of the treatment they are recieving in school. Yes, I will conceed that there are bullies that pick on others because they are mean. However, I think it is completely and will-fully naive to say that there aren't some kids that bring such treatment upon themselves.   

   

   

EXAMPLE: I have a friend who is still in high school. She is pretty, smart, and warm. Her only major problem in school? She is bullied. So, I walk her to school every day when I am home for Christmas break (I am in college).  Sometimes we encounter the kids that feel the need to be ugly to her. Well, I have witnessed first hand that some kids say things that just end up getting them in more trouble with their abusers. They yell things, and tell the kids that are hurting them that they are better than they are. I understand that this is their method of fighting back, and not feeling like a victim. When school officials won't listen, and sometimes parents don't listen, retaliations like this only serve to add fuel to the bully's fire. I don't think that kids should live in fear and run around like scared little mice, but they should only utter the words, "leave me alone" and if the situation continues (physical threat etc.) then the victim should do something that works for most kids that I've talked to.  

   

Kids today have this love affair with cell phones. Kids as early as 5th grade have them to communicate with their family etc. Simply pull out your cell phone and threaten to call 911. You don't have to actually do it, but you can dial it and show them the window if they persist. It also isn't a bad idea to carry a siren alarm before or after school. Should anyone try to assault you-- you can set it off and it will release a shrill siren that can be heard from very far away. If you are worried that your child is going to be attacked then it is a good idea to invest in this simple device.   

   

However, it is becoming more frequent with situations that I have been mentoring and monitoring with my own after school programs have usually evolved from a dispute involving one child openly proclaiming their superiority to another. The person then feels like they are being looked down upon and resort to bullying. It isn't RIGHT, I realize this, but it is a reality.  

   

I think that it is high time that we all get out of this fantasy world of what is right and wrong...what people SHOULD be doing as opposed to what is actually happening. To imply that every victim of a bully is completely innocent doesn't make sense logically. Believe it or not there have been instances when the victim has offended the bullies and it isn't fair to say that their slate is completely clean 100% of the time. That is an assumption that the victim is perfect. We all know that we are not perfect, our children aren't perfect, the world is not perfect.   

   

   

BULLYING IS NEVER AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER TO ANY INSULT. However, it isn't fair to simply assume that the person who is doing the bullying hasn't been harmed, insulted, offended or abused by the victim prior to the acts in question. It doesn't excuse the behavior but it does offer a motive.   

  

Bullies must still answer for their crimes, but I think that education in treating people better would benefit everyone. The bullying is a learned behavior. A reaction to mistreatment-- either by another person or the victim that the bully is pursuing.   

  

Lets all try to be logical and equal here: there is a huge grey area (I have seen it in my mentoring programs as I have said) between assigning 100% blame to the bully and 100% innocence to the victim. Usually there are instances of enough guilt to go around. The bully must answer for his/her crimes, but the victim should also examine their actions and see if there is something they might have done or said to set things in motion.   

 
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August 23, 2005, 6:30 pm PDT

My 15 year old has been bullied, beaten and scandalized on the internet

My 15 year old is in a 15-1 class in Central New York.  She has been punched, scratched, threatened, emotionally and publically abused within the school system and on the internet.  I have guardian reports sent to my online screen name.  Although the schools have NOT helped one bit.  I have helped her by notifying the police, evoked anti-discrimination laws pertaining to persons with disabilities and now, sent the information that I logged and printed on the internet to the FBI.  The last resort will be to hire an attorney to represent her in the school and in her personal life. 

  

I will not rave on about this because I am a fighter for her rights and will not allow her to be victimized without regard to lost work days, the money involved or publically exposing my frustration within the local newspaper.  There is no end to how dedicated I am to this...to stop bullies and provide protection against a bad childhood memory for her lifelong time in this flawed world. 

 
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August 24, 2005, 11:25 pm PDT

bullying

 first of all i live in australia so we get the dr phil show a little later then u do in the states, i like to congrat both tess and mark and also corinnes mum, it takes great courage to speak out on a prob that is not just confronted by teens in amercia but also throughout the world,it takes great courage to speak on tv to not only a national, but also an international audience, on wht is such a depressing and painful topic. I believe that to solve a prob like bulling, we must find the root of the prob, weather its from family, peer, or social probs, somehthing is most certainly a trigger and unfortunly due to that, some innocent person cops the full brunt of the bullying.If society is to curve bullying, not only do tough laws need to be in place, there needs to be tough  rules in schools, the internet needs to crack down  on inappropiate language, there needs to be greater education  for not only the bullys but also for the ppl that suffer at the hands of the bullys, most importantly a greater influence has to be to stand up to the ppl, look inside uself and see that everyones special one way or another and that these ppl  wont win. I like to take this opptunity to wish tess,mark and corinnes mum all the best for the future, and that my prayers will be with them in hoping that they can go on to live successful lives, finally my email address is csitkw@hotmail.com, if u ever need a friend or sometone to tlak, know that theres alwas a friend on the otherside of the world willing to listern :), peace be with u all and stay strong
 
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August 25, 2005, 8:51 pm PDT

Bullying must stop

I am a 17 year old girl and I attend a private catholic high school in West Des Moines, Iowa. My younger brothers have both been bullied. It absolutely breaks my heart. It shakes me to the core when I hear about this happening to not only my younger brothers, but to other children. I don't understand what goes through a bully's mind as they torment, torture and belittle other human beings. I am so glad that Dr. Phil did a show to raise awareness and to promote a zero-tolerance attitude towards bullying. Right now, I am trying to launch an anti-bullying campaign at my school. I want people to know that bullying is completely unacceptable and I am proud to say our administration is jumping on this with me. They are helping me in letting the students and faculty know that bullying is not right and won't be tolerated. Thank you, Dr. Phil and others for being so courageous!
 

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August 29, 2005, 1:47 pm PDT

Bullies

I must have missed this episode the 1st time around but I saw it a few weeks ago.  I think bullying is ridiculous.  When I was a substitute teacher I did not allow it.  In fact, when I saw it happen, I would confront the bully & make him/her apologize to the other student.  Then I would tell the entire class that behavior like that is uncalled for.  That we as humans do not make fun of others.  I would tell the students that we need to stick together & embrace differences & explain that if a child needs glasses, there is no reason to call him 4 eyes.  He needs them!  I asked the bully child if he needed glasses to see or to read a comic book would he want others to make fun of him because his eyes are bad?  I did this in elementary, jr and sr high schools.  I could really see the kids thinking about what I said.  I believe the teachers and EVERY SINGLE ADULT in this world is 110% responsible for shaping bullies by calling them on their crap. (I know Jay said this in a way & I fully agree).  I also went out and got Clay Aiken's book and read it.  It's a very good example of how individuals can love themselves despite the messages they get from others.  I want the kids on the show to know I thought they were beautiful & handsome & had such sweet souls shining through their animated eyes.  I send love to you both & hope & energy that will help you.
 

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September 7, 2005, 7:27 am PDT

Legal Action?

I know we say that our society is too prone to sue, but cases like Tess's are part of the reason.  When the institutions fail, legal action can also be a way to get them to take responsibility.  My best to you, Tess.
 

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December 7, 2005, 8:22 am PST

08/16 Bullies

This episode just aired here in The Netherlands.  It really broke my heart to see how Tess is being treated and it brought back a lot of memories for me.  I remember being bullied in school at the same age that Tess is now.  Thankfully we didn't have the internet at the time but I was still harrassed so much that the kids drove me from school and my parents also home schooled me because of it. 

  

I'm 28 now and have learned a lot from those experiences but they were devastating when I was teen and they changed my life forever. 

  

I'm not sure if Tess or her family will read this but I just wanted to send my encouragement to Tess and let her know if she needs someone to talk to who's been through a similar situation that she is welcome to contact me at ldydragonslair@yahoo.com 

 
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