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Topic : 08/18 'Fighting for My Children'

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Created on : Friday, August 12, 2005, 06:24:59 pm
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(Original air date 05/17/05) Dr. Phil sheds light on two custody battles cases that have captured national attention and left the children caught in the crossfire. Michael, Linda and their two kids seemed to be the typical American family, but when the marriage started to crumble, the fight for custody ended up on Court TV. Why did Linda lose her kids to a man who's not their biological father, and is Michael an unfit parent because he used to be a woman? Then, model Bridget Marks made headlines when she was forced to hand over her twin daughters to their father. Tune in for her dramatic update and join the discussion.

 

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August 20, 2005, 10:24 am PDT

A Baby

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sorry if i misspelled your name.You had better be careful now about the sperm bank and a donor for linda's baby,because now its shown that men go after women for for custody.The show on called "the view"had this topic on not long ago and now fathers of these babies are now coming forward and wanting to share custody because of change of heart.and apparently they can .So why be a donor if you want kids right?go get a woman and have a baby right? well not so because there are men that want to share custody but don't want the woman .Then what?wouldn't suggest a sperm donor to quick.thanks.

Well I still think Linda deserves a little happiness and shouldn't have to put up with this the rest of her life.  She could always check with the Maury show and maybe get some from one of the dead beat dads with no strings attached. 


And Linda if you think this baby idea is not Christian.  Think about it.  Is anything about this situation Christian?  Having a baby wouldn't make it any worse.  It would probably make it better because your new child in your custody would respect you and not treat you with disrespect as they are being trained to in your ex's custody. 

 
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August 20, 2005, 4:42 pm PDT

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Well I still think Linda deserves a little happiness and shouldn't have to put up with this the rest of her life.  She could always check with the Maury show and maybe get some from one of the dead beat dads with no strings attached. 


And Linda if you think this baby idea is not Christian.  Think about it.  Is anything about this situation Christian?  Having a baby wouldn't make it any worse.  It would probably make it better because your new child in your custody would respect you and not treat you with disrespect as they are being trained to in your ex's custody. 

I wasn't disputing the fact that linda doesn't deserve another baby .Maury show to funny you are right dead beat dads i have never saw a show with so much paternity tests in all my born days.lol women testing multiple possible fathers and have the nerve to go back to test more.I think myself they got to be paying someone to be so stupid !anyhow if linda's kids are mistreating her by disrespect well you wanna believe i would fight it.She better put her kids ahead of her bible for now and get those kids.not saying give up religion ,happen to be a believer myself. just needs to get priorties straight thats all.donor don't know if thats the best option for her though. thanks for answering my post.
 
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August 20, 2005, 6:01 pm PDT

Again I ask

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WHATEVER!!! she left him because of abuse to her and was also treaten by him if she did he would take the kids from her exactly what he did hired the most expensive lawyer and went to court and took the kids.As far as her going with a married man yes she did and it takes two to have an affair.as far as i know about the church and not letting her talk to her kids,watch the second part .
What makes you think Brigett isn't lying about the abuse and the father not letting her speak to the kids?  You believe this woman with not a word from the father, but the court heard from the father and they determined that she lied about the sexual abuse of the children, why wouldn't she lie about herself being abused by this man?  Honey one day you're going to learn that you can't just believe everything a woman says because she's a woman.
 
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August 20, 2005, 6:17 pm PDT

Anger?

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Anger!!! That makes me so angry. The courts should void that marriage and the adoption because "Michael" is a woman. She is sick and her family is sick get those children away from that nut! She needs serious counseling. How can any court place those children to be raised by someone who isn't sure about their own identity. "Michael" is very sick!  

  

Eight years ago my 4-month-old daughter was kidnapped from me and handed over to her birth father who at the time was 15 years old. I was 18 years old. When I contacted police they informed me that there was no such thing as parental kidnapping in the state of NC. I was forced to hire an attorney; I paid her $750.00. When the court date came around my attorney did not even show up for court and since then has been dis-barred and is nowhere to be found. However, I lost my court case due to lack of proper representation, a then 16 year old boy was awarded custody of my baby girl. He lived with his parents of course, one of which was a convicted felon on multiple charges including trafficking drugs and had spent time in prison on more than one occasion. I was awarded visitation every other weekend from 6:00pm Friday until 6:00pm Sunday. Everytime I attempted to exercise my visitation I was assaulted, threatened, and sometimes not even given the chance to see my daughter. On one such occasion I received a death threat that frightened me into moving out of state.  

To make a very long story short I stayed away from this man for very good reason. I recently learned that he had a crack-cocaine addiction, hit his best-friend in the head with a claw hammer, shot someone, went to prison, was committed to detox, assaulted many people including his own mother, attempted suicide, and one of his more recent actions was to rob the First Citizens Bank on March 16, 2005. Shortly after that he was involved in a shoot-out with the  Police Department in which an officer was forced to shoot and kill him.  

As soon as I learned that he was dead, I felt safe enough to go back and get my daughter who is now almost 8 years old. However, it just wasn't that simple. When he went to detox in 2002 he signed custody over to his parents also a convicted felon and a woman who never even learned to drive a car. Now the grandfather is deceased from heart failure and the grandmother who never even learned to drive a car has custody of my daughter. Now I don't understand how they were able to do this since my parental rights were never terminated and they did not even attempt to locate me to claim my daughter.  

Just to give you a little info about me. I am a full-time college student with two Associate Degrees, and enrolled in an undergraduate program at a private University. I currently maintain a 4.0 GPA and was elected by my student body to serve as the President of the Student Government Association. I also served on the Board of Trustees for the college, am a member of Phi Theta Kappa Honor Society, Who's Who among students in American Junior Colleges, The National Dean's List, and served as a delegate for the North Carolina Comprehensive Community College Student Government Association. I am also a mother of another child who is 3 years old. I am pursuing a Bachelors in Political Science and will eventually attend law school. This insane custody battle over my daughter has inspired a high school drop out to finish high school go to a community college, then a university, and one day a law school. I am determined to practice family law and help families. I am determined to make sure that nothing like happens to anyone else. 

I am an upstanding member of society. All these years my poor little girl has had to endure the wrath of that horrible monster, and even after he is dead I still cannot get my daughter back because the grandmother is fighting me.  It isn't right. 

Where is your anger that should be directed toward yourself?  Instead of going to college to help deadbeats fight over their children, how about going into schools and telling your story to girls that 1. date underaged no-counts and get pregnant by them. 

2. Girls who have unprotected sex to the point of getting pregnant. 

3. Girls who think it's cool to date bad boys. 

4. Girls who don't use birth control. 

I think women like you are dangerous when you can buddy up with the courts.  It was your mistakes that led to what happened to you and your child.  Ultimately as females we need to control our reproductive organs because we're the ones who will suffer over a child.  Remember we have the babies from our womb, and we all know a mother's love..... 

  

So even if you become an attorney and there is a good father who deserves custody of his children you will fight to the death against him because you have an agenda, not a cause. 

  

 
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August 21, 2005, 11:17 am PDT

Marks wasn't a model

Do a search on the net. She was a Playboy Centerfold.  No wonder I didn't know who she was.  So for those of you championing her agenda.  Just know that there are naked pictures of this mistress all over the internet.  I wonder how her daughters will feel about this when they get in private school paid by their rich father and his wife?  Let's just be real about this.  This isn't your typical mother and typically the courts are slanted toward mothers. 
 
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August 21, 2005, 11:33 am PDT

I was wrong

So Marks did get sole custody????  A woman who took her 3 or 4 year old girls in for intrusive exams so she could claim their father molested them.  It was proven in court by numerous experts that she lied and coaxed the babies into lying about the molestation, and now she has sole custody of the kids, thanks to being a Playboy Model in the past.  Life is so unfair.
 

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August 21, 2005, 11:34 am PDT

08/18 'Fighting for My Children'

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I agree that is really sad.  I understand you though.  This is the thing with criminal people:  They know how to talk to the cops and GET AWAY with stuff.  Where honest people just know how to be honest and don't know how to talk to the cops.  They just tell the truth.  Where criminal people lie and don't flinch.   You know one thing I noticed is you said:  You were 18yrs and he was 15yrs.  Although you didn't mention it in your little story.... Have they accused you of child molesting because of the age difference and thus withheld parental rights?  I hate to say it that way because I don't think you are a child molester ok.  That is just how the current courts in their 1950's roots think.  Hello? teenagers have sex.   But in our society if you have a relationship with a minor this is how it is.  Hollywood pumps sex media into our generation and then wonders why kids have voluntary sex.  I think kids over 13 yrs should be held accountable for their sexual actions whereas 8 year olds shouldn't and are mislead.  13 year olds have a mind of their own and will do what ever they want.   Teenagers could go to Alabama and get legally married at age 14 yrs, but if they have a relationship in another state it is criminal.   Perhaps you should use your case and go higher up the courts to set a precidence.
Thank you for your reply. To answer your question, we were both minors at the time of conception. He was 15 and I was 17 and then I turned 18 years old four days before my daughter was born. I plan on using my case to set precidence. The system in this particular county is very curupt.
 

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August 21, 2005, 11:45 am PDT

08/18 'Fighting for My Children'

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Where is your anger that should be directed toward yourself?  Instead of going to college to help deadbeats fight over their children, how about going into schools and telling your story to girls that 1. date underaged no-counts and get pregnant by them. 

2. Girls who have unprotected sex to the point of getting pregnant. 

3. Girls who think it's cool to date bad boys. 

4. Girls who don't use birth control. 

I think women like you are dangerous when you can buddy up with the courts.  It was your mistakes that led to what happened to you and your child.  Ultimately as females we need to control our reproductive organs because we're the ones who will suffer over a child.  Remember we have the babies from our womb, and we all know a mother's love..... 

  

So even if you become an attorney and there is a good father who deserves custody of his children you will fight to the death against him because you have an agenda, not a cause. 

  

I will not fight to the death against any father because of my agenda. My agenda is to challenge the law and set precidence. I have never "buddied up" with the court, they have never been on my side. My agenda is fight for those who have been victimized by the system no matter their sex.  

  

 
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August 22, 2005, 9:40 am PDT

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So Marks did get sole custody????  A woman who took her 3 or 4 year old girls in for intrusive exams so she could claim their father molested them.  It was proven in court by numerous experts that she lied and coaxed the babies into lying about the molestation, and now she has sole custody of the kids, thanks to being a Playboy Model in the past.  Life is so unfair.
If you are going to write about bridget marks since you are so gun ho!! on making her look so bad and Dr.Phil i might add since he is was helping her get her kids back and mind you she did well just post all the facts on briget marks then not just the pics you decided to did up .For your added info to your collection Bridget Marks also was a poet and a community activist plus this little extra info i thought i would throw at ya"Bridget Marks attended Smith College, where she graduated with a BA at age 19. At 21, she earned her Master''''s Degree from New York University in Political Science.

A sometimes actress, poet and community activist since her teen years, she is also a single mother who lives in New York City with her four-year-old twin daughters, Amber Lynn and Scarlett Lee".chew on that for awhile!!!
 
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August 22, 2005, 11:17 am PDT

That's fair

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I will not fight to the death against any father because of my agenda. My agenda is to challenge the law and set precidence. I have never "buddied up" with the court, they have never been on my side. My agenda is fight for those who have been victimized by the system no matter their sex.  

  

 Just make sure you take responsibility for your part in the situation your daughter is in.  I've never been a big fan of people who ruin your children's lives and then you want the rest of us to applaud you when you get a clue and get you life together.  Your actions totally altered your daughter's life, no matter how many degrees you get, you have to take responsibility for her life and what you did to it.  Hopefully she'll make it, no thanks to the start you gave her.  But I do think it's noble that you're trying to do right by her now.  I think you need to be talking to girls just like you, who are making the same mistakes, because they don't want to listen, and they're smarter than everyone else.  We know from history that if you're 15 and get with a no count and have a baby by him at 17 or 18 you're cheating yourself and your child, so don't do it.  I think instead of championing your cause, I think you need to fight to get your daughter back and into Mon-Fri. counselling, and when she's in counseling you need to be talking to girls in Jr. and high school about your life's mistakes, and how being such a smart teenager hurt your child.
 
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