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Created on : Friday, August 19, 2005, 03:21:03 pm
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(Original airdate 05/19/05) Steve and Sheila are high school sweethearts whose marriage seem normal from the outside. But shocking home video shows Steve, an alcoholic, passed out on the floor on the verge of death, while Sheila violently slaps, punches, kicks and stomps on him — in front of their two little girls. Find out what Dr. Phil thinks has to happen if they want to keep their children and turn their out-of-control lives around.  Has alcohol affected someone you know? Join the discussion.


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September 4, 2005, 6:55 am PDT

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Watching those little girls putting her hands over her ears as her mother beat the heck out of her father at the same time she was yelling was disturbing for all of the viewers.  Seeing them running from their living room & crying & trying to get out of Sheila's way during another beating was too painful to watch too.  I really wish that Dr. Phil would do some kind of follow up show or at least let everyone know if those kids are at least in a place that's safe now.  I believe that everyone who's accused of being "too judgemental" here were all just so frustrated & in the end angry too because we were all unable to reach out and pull those children to safety.  Knowing how much we all wanted to do just that it's infuriating to us all how these girls own mother didn't want to do the same.  I think it would be good for us all toknow they're at last in a safe place.   
Hi i saw your post and thought i would share that apparently since the show Sheila&Steve have seperated but the kids are with her.No great advantage there i can see .I agree it was hard to see and that she seemed to not have the best interest of her kids at heart she lied saying she didn't see the kids standing there with their hands over their ears and trying to get away from the beating .they have a small house she said (sheila)so why wouldn't the kids see it.She's sick and i hope that Dr.Phil does a follow up also to see if this woman is still practicing nursing i hope not for the sake of the patients.
 

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September 4, 2005, 7:20 am PDT

here is what I think

I sincerely think this family should be the new Dr. Phil family.  What do you guys think about that?
 
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September 4, 2005, 8:25 am PDT

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I sincerely think this family should be the new Dr. Phil family.  What do you guys think about that?
Hi i hope i spelled your name right.LOL well as far as them being a new Dr.Phil family i don't think they have a family any longer or i have not seen anyone post different since this show was a repeat.There have been family members that have posted on the old boards that said they were parted so i reallly don't know more than that.Well if they are back together it might be a good idea cause boy they need it all that family.thanks for suggestion though.
 
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October 1, 2005, 10:38 pm PDT

I live with an alcoholic

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I have read SOME of the messages, I don't blame the woman for being upset dealing with a raging alcoholic. But... not to that extent! I am living with an alcoholic who - luckily is not as bad as Steve, although that doesn't really matter - I have felt the same way as Sheila, I would have liked to hit him at some point. But I know that wouldn't help. I know people would think that I am terrible but it is not easy dealing with that, even though alcoholism is a "disease" it still isn't easy. I know people think that Sheila is lieing about not remembering beating Steve but look what her father did to her, it has to have some psychological affect on her. I don't know what I would do in her shoes but did anyone see that the husband looked like he was trying to hurt her when she kicked him? Not that she should have beat him, especially when he was on the floor after drinking sooooo much, I didn't agree with that, at all!! I go to Al-anon and it has been tough to think of alcoholism as a disease; but if someone has cancer or diabetes and doesn't get help, and we live with them; it has an affect on us too. I do feel bad for the kids and agree that they would be better off out of the home, I am so glad that Dr. Phil told them to separate, and you saw how she was upset - she suffers from the affects of alcoholism too - being married to him, it's not easy! I just wanted to tell my feelings too.        
I too live with an alcoholic.  He isn't as bad as Steve either, but I understand Shelia's rage, although violence is never a solution.  Living with an alcoholic does effect everyone around them.  My husband is going through counseling, thank God, and is doing well with not drinking.  My best friend grew up with an alcoholic mother--probably worse than Steve--and is now following in her footsteps.  It's so sad to watch her.  She won't listen to anyone and is really discreet about how much she actually drinks.  It's hard to be the sober one and have promises broken, things forgotten because they were drunk, phyically and/or emotionally abused.  I never thought I'd end up with someone who's an addict.  Does going to Alanon help?  I've been told that I should really go.
 
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October 9, 2005, 12:10 pm PDT

My father is an alcoholic

Hi, I really like to wathc the shows, with the abuse stuff 

  

My father is also an alcoholic and when I was 9 years old, my mother, brother and me, came on a krisescenter and he got an destraingorder against us.. he treathen our lifes and much more... ist a very long story... 

  

About 6 years ago I looked him up by a visit to see for myself who he was, and 2 month later he acused me to steal from him, and I havent had any contack with him since... 

  

Because of the dipressions I have i writes poems, and once i wrote a poem about him, and i gor enough and send it to him and i was so releived for me to send it to him, cause it is impotent for me for him to know how I feel for him, what angry and bitter I am on him and i just wish him dead som me and my family can get som peace in our souls 

  

So for all the abusers out there: please get som help, like dr.phil is saying, for your own, and for your family and kids sake, cause if you dont, you kids may become to hate you later in life, like i hate my own father... let them know that its not their fault that  you have become an abuser.. that is a wish i wish my dad had said to me, instead Im going around thinking.. maybe if I had said something to him, when I was a kid, he would not be so bad a drunker today, but on the other hand like dr phill is saying... the kids is kids and its not their job, to fix their parents problem.. 

  

Good luck.... 

  

Love Anna 

 
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March 2, 2006, 11:26 am PST

am so sry

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I think Dr. Phil was treating the wife as if it was her problem.  The husband needed to be talked to about his behavior that caused the wife to lose her temper. I do not think she was right in the way she handled it. Dr Phil needed to blast the husband and then the wife. 

I disagree one thing I have learned in my studys is that no one deserves to be abused no mater what the behavor is
 
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March 27, 2006, 1:35 pm PST

08/25 Alcohol and Abuse

In one way I can understand how she is oblivious to her children being witness to these attacks. 

Not that Im condoning it at all! 

I have noticed in myself,when in a rage with my husband I get tunnel vision.All I can "focuse" on is him.If you can imagen a tunnel with a picture of his face at the end,on the sides of this tunnel I can see our friends,family or even strangers but my rage and anger is "centred" on him and my mouth goes for it!  

In one way Im oblivious to them....But really I just dont give a hoot who see's or what they see. 

I think Im justified,NOT that I am. 

In a drunken rage I stabbed my husband 11years ago and went to jail for it.Ive never harmed him since,but everyday I hide it from our  kids.I dont want them growing up with my burdon.We are now married and have 4children.I love him and could/would never do that again.Jail was a shock to reality.I cant imagen life without him and our kids. 

GET IT TOGETHER! DO IT FOR YOUR BABIES & HUMAN RESPECT. 

Good luck to you,your husband and your babies that LOVE you BOTH. 

 
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May 21, 2006, 6:15 am PDT

Harrowing viewing

I watched this programme in utter shock and disbelief. I cannot accept that Sheila 'blacked out' when she abused Steve physically. Call herself a nurse? Without wishing to sound judgemental, because obviously this woman has serious issues to contend with and to face, I have to say that I wouldn't leave my dog with her, let alone two little kids!  

  

Dr Phil, I believe you absolutely did the right thing in telling these two they couldn't stay together for the time being, not until they got themselves straightened out somehow. Well done! I know it's an old show (we live in Dubai and obviousy there's a delay between the time the show is aired in the 'States and it gets to be seen here in the Middle East) but I would love to know what the follow-up was to this. I sincerely hope, for the sake of the kids, there was a positive outcome. 

  

  

 
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May 24, 2006, 8:20 pm PDT

Doctor Phil Show.

Doctor Phil. Alcohol is a bad thing to do in United States Of America and most of peoples do get 

drunk or better yet using drug to get high aswell. See you tomorrow Afternoon. Sincerley Your.--- 

Russell


 
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November 20, 2006, 6:35 pm PST

08/25 Alcohol and Abuse

Another story to give you. My father is, and has been an alcoholic since I can remember. It's horrible having to know that he is infact a good person, but it's so hard to believe when all he ever does, is not show it. I'm guessing it's because of the alcohol, but he used to hit me, across the head, kick me, smack me, hold me up against the wall by my neck, abuse me in different ways. Though my parents divorced when I was about two, the legal papers stated that my mother had custody of me, but I had to see my father every week-end. I've seen a psychologist since I was very, very young, and stopped only last year, because 13-14 years of psychotherapy has done nothing for me. I wish I could do more to help him realize what he's doing to everyone else, but moreso to himself. I'm 17, going on 18 in a month and a bit, I could care less about myself. I never had the father-daughter relationship every little girl wants, and never will, because now it's too late. But he still has my little brother and little sister, and I want to do soemthing to help him get better, just so they can have what I never had the chance to. I don't want to wait until it's too late for them too, I don't want them to end up like me. I don't know what to do, even though I know there's nothing more I can do... But please, do what you can to stop child abuse, moreso involving alcohol. We have to make it heard. Alcohol affects so many people, it's unbelievable. And it hurts so much to even think about it. It hurts to feel like you're so worthless, that your own father would rather drink his life away than spend quality time with you. And when he does spend quality time with you, he's drunk. It hurts so much. I know there's not much we can do, but there's got to be something.
 
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