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After years of suffering in silence, a family turns to Dr. Phil for help on a forbidden topic. Their silence stems from years of incest that took place between all five siblings. Becky, the oldest sister, is terrified those years of molestation and pain could cause her younger brother, Kenny, to die on the streets as a homeless drug addict. Find out what happens when Kenny faces his brothers and sisters as they confront their incestuous past. Plus, Alexis wants help with a heart-breaking secret. Her father got her pregnant eight times, beginning when she was just 15. Her children don't know that their grandfather is also their dad. Should Alexis tell them? Talk about the show here.

 

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September 15, 2005, 1:17 pm PDT

09/07 Dark Family Secrets

Please Hear What I'm Not Saying  

  

Don't be fooled by me.  

Don't be fooled by the face I wear  

for I wear a mask, a thousand masks,  

masks that I'm afraid to take off,  

and none of them is me.  

Pretending is an art that's second nature with me,  

but don't be fooled,  

for God's sake don't be fooled.  

I give you the impression that I'm secure,  

that all is sunny and unruffled with me, within as well  

as without,  

that confidence is my name and coolness my game,  

that the water's calm and I'm in command  

and that I need no one,  

but don't believe me.  

My surface may seem smooth but my surface is my mask,  

ever-varying and ever-concealing.  

Beneath lies no complacence.  

Beneath lies confusion, and fear, and aloneness.  

But I hide this. I don't want anybody to know it.  

I panic at the thought of my weakness exposed.  

That's why I frantically create a mask to hide behind,  

a nonchalant sophisticated facade,  

to help me pretend,  

to shield me from the glance that knows.  

But such a glance is precisely my salvation, my only hope,  

and I know it.  

That is, if it's followed by acceptance,  

if it's followed by love.  

It's the only thing that can liberate me from myself,  

from my own self-built prison walls,  

from the barriers I so painstakingly erect.  

It's the only thing that will assure me  

of what I can't assure myself,  

that I'm really worth something.  

But I don't tell you this. I don't dare to, I'm afraid to.  

I'm afraid your glance will not be followed by acceptance,  

will not be followed by love.  

I'm afraid you'll think less of me,  

that you'll laugh, and your laugh would kill me.  

I'm afraid that deep-down I'm nothing  

and that you will see this and reject me.  

So I play my game, my desperate pretending game,  

with a facade of assurance without  

and a trembling child within.  

So begins the glittering but empty parade of masks,  

and my life becomes a front.  

I tell you everything that's really nothing,  

and nothing of what's everything,  

of what's crying within me.  

So when I'm going through my routine  

do not be fooled by what I'm saying.  

Please listen carefully and try to hear what I'm not saying,  

what I'd like to be able to say,  

what for survival I need to say,  

but what I can't say.  

I don't like hiding.  

I don't like playing superficial phony games.  

I want to stop playing them.  

I want to be genuine and spontaneous and me  

but you've got to help me.  

You've got to hold out your hand  

even when that's the last thing I seem to want.  

Only you can wipe away from my eyes  

the blank stare of the breathing dead.  

Only you can call me into aliveness.  

Each time you're kind, and gentle, and encouraging,  

each time you try to understand because you really care,  

my heart begins to grow wings--  

very small wings,  

very feeble wings,  

but wings!  

With your power to touch me into feeling  

you can breathe life into me.  

I want you to know that.  

I want you to know how important you are to me,  

how you can be a creator--an honest-to-God creator--  

of the person that is me  

if you choose to.  

You alone can break down the wall behind which I tremble,  

you alone can remove my mask,  

you alone can release me from my shadow-world of panic,  

from my lonely prison,  

if you choose to.  

Please choose to.  

Do not pass me by.  

It will not be easy for you.  

A long conviction of worthlessness builds strong walls.  

The nearer you approach to me  

the blinder I may strike back.  

It's irrational, but despite what the books say about man  

often I am irrational.  

I fight against the very thing I cry out for.  

But I am told that love is stronger than strong walls  

and in this lies my hope.  

Please try to beat down those walls  

with firm hands but with gentle hands  

for a child is very sensitive.  

Who am I, you may wonder?  

I am someone you know very well.  

For I am every man you meet  

and I am every woman you meet.  

  

  

Charles C. Finn  

September 1966 

 
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September 17, 2005, 11:27 pm PDT

It's called healing

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Why spend our adulthoods, hacking up our childhoods. Why contstantly talk about someone or something that happened when you were 6,7,8, when you are now 36,37,38. It doesnt effect the other person any. Theres nothing you can do about it now. You cant change the fact it happend. so whats the point of reliving it and reissuing it. Lifes to short to sit in a negative pool. Do something for your future, you cant turn back time and go to your past.

Have you ever been put in the position of being too scared to talk about what is happening to you? Scared because you are just 6,7,8, and your abuser is much older and bigger than you are, and is threatening you, saying "you better NOT tell, or else!" Then, when you get older, you maybe try to tell someone, and they just don't want to hear it, in fact, they become angry with you, call you a troublemaker, or a liar. So then, you're afraid to talk about it all over again, and the hurt just stays inside you, festering, like a big splinter that has never been removed. Yes, what's done is done, and there is no undoing it. But if you never get it out, you can never really start to heal. Thank God, I finally found a few people who were willing to listen to me. I could not have healed without them. For anyone who does not want to hear of such things, I just have one question - what in the world are you doing HERE?!?!?
 
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September 18, 2005, 9:17 am PDT

Good Point

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Have you ever been put in the position of being too scared to talk about what is happening to you? Scared because you are just 6,7,8, and your abuser is much older and bigger than you are, and is threatening you, saying "you better NOT tell, or else!" Then, when you get older, you maybe try to tell someone, and they just don't want to hear it, in fact, they become angry with you, call you a troublemaker, or a liar. So then, you're afraid to talk about it all over again, and the hurt just stays inside you, festering, like a big splinter that has never been removed. Yes, what's done is done, and there is no undoing it. But if you never get it out, you can never really start to heal. Thank God, I finally found a few people who were willing to listen to me. I could not have healed without them. For anyone who does not want to hear of such things, I just have one question - what in the world are you doing HERE?!?!?

I wondered the same thing myself reading some of the previous posts expressing distaste that this was being talked about openly.  Why are they even coming to the message board if it they find it difficult to hear...I mean changing the channel is one thing but to go to the trouble of logging on and saying "don't talk about it" leads me to believe something else is going on.   

The need to "silence" people who speak openly about incest and child sexual abuse is so powerful in some people, families, cultures it amazes me.  What are they afraid of?????????????   

  

I am sad to see this message board slow down,...I have found it extrememly theraputic reading the posts and discussing this with all the courageous people here.   

  

In the book "Dark Obsession" by Peter Meyer, he writes, "The terrible tragic irony of incest is that many of the child's worst fears_about  being blamed for the abuse, about tearing the family apart, about not being believed_are frequently born out.  Joyce N. Thomas, director of Children's Hospital's Division of Child Protection in Washington says, "I've seen families go wild.  It can be dangerous...They often blame the daughter." 

  

Fear is a powerful emotion...powerful enough to make mothers turn on their own daughters, and families turn their backs on and abandon one of their own, to salvage the unit.   

Who knows what the answers are...but I know they won't be found in silence. 

  

  

 
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September 19, 2005, 5:52 am PDT

That...

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So someone smashed your leg with a baseball bat when you were 8? 

You don't know who it was? 

He took off before you could see who it was? 

 What?...you told your parents and they didn’t believe you?   

Your leg was never tended to and it didn’t heal properly?   

Well, s*it…that’s no excuse to go around limping like that.   

And straighten your leg out will ya?   

We don't want to look at that.   

And you whining about your leg isn’t hurting the guy with who broke it any, so why complain about how much pain you’re in?  

There’s nothing you can do about it now, short of re-breaking the leg and having it set so it can heal properly.   

But to do that you’d have to re-experience the pain.  

Neh!!…no way.   

Who wants to watch you go through that?   

We couldn’t handle it.   

Just pretend it ain’t there ok?   

You act like your leg is normal and we’ll act like we don’t see it, ok?   

God…think of someone other than yourself for a change will ya! 

... is a GREAT anology!  You nailed it!  *applause for you*
 
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September 19, 2005, 5:52 am PDT

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  Why spend our adulthoods, hacking up our childhoods. Why contstantly talk about someone or something that happened when you were 6,7,8, when you are now 36,37,38. It doesnt effect the other person any. Theres nothing you can do about it now. You cant change the fact it happend. so whats the point of reliving it and reissuing it. Lifes to short  to sit in a negative pool. Do something  for your future, you cant turn back time and go to your past. 

There IS something people can do about it now.  Its called healing.  The only possible way to heal is to face your past.  Sorry people like you dont(or what is probably more accurate cant and wont) accept that, but its just too bad!  Refusing to see the truth doesent change the truth. 

  

Whats the point of reliving it and re issuing it?  The point is if you dont it will forever continue to eat you up on the inside until it becomes a cancer that takes your very soul.   

  

Imo, you are trying to convince yourself there is no reason to face past demons.  It is a very easy concept to understand why it is needed to go back and "re issue/ re live" our pasts.  That you dont- cant -wont accept that, speaks volumes.   

 
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September 19, 2005, 8:08 am PDT

Shairing my secret with the world

Hi all. Just thought I would put my two cents in on this subject. See my shared diary "my Life (linguini and white clam sauce" for yet another story. Maybe one of you will find comfort in being able to relate. Hang in there!
 
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September 19, 2005, 4:24 pm PDT

RAIN

 I am posting this message for fear that Dr. Phil won't actually read an email sent to him, but someone else will, and I think all girls out there who have been raped or are victims of incest need to know this.  I was raped by a law enforcement officer in my home town last year.  I am now in the middle of a custody fight for my child that resulted from this, and the man with my child is merely a friend of this officer's.  I have been living in such fear since then, and then I saw Dr. Phil's show on Dark Family Secrets and he gave out the phone number for the rape and incest hotline, or RAIN.  I finally worked up the nerve and called the number.  I thought there might some hope for my situation, that somebody finally might listen and help me.  But I got a local dispatcher at the sheriff's department in my town, asking if I wanted a counselor!  I hung the phone up immediatly.  I don't think that Dr. Phil is aware of this.  I don't think he knows that the number he is telling girls like me to call, is directing us back to the same people that, especially in my case, and I'm sure other girls, too, are responsible for our abuse.  This is a plea to all such girls and Dr. Phil, to please do something about this.  I know that RAIN probably has good intentions, but the result is frightening.
 
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September 19, 2005, 6:07 pm PDT

Keep Looking

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 I am posting this message for fear that Dr. Phil won't actually read an email sent to him, but someone else will, and I think all girls out there who have been raped or are victims of incest need to know this.  I was raped by a law enforcement officer in my home town last year.  I am now in the middle of a custody fight for my child that resulted from this, and the man with my child is merely a friend of this officer's.  I have been living in such fear since then, and then I saw Dr. Phil's show on Dark Family Secrets and he gave out the phone number for the rape and incest hotline, or RAIN.  I finally worked up the nerve and called the number.  I thought there might some hope for my situation, that somebody finally might listen and help me.  But I got a local dispatcher at the sheriff's department in my town, asking if I wanted a counselor!  I hung the phone up immediatly.  I don't think that Dr. Phil is aware of this.  I don't think he knows that the number he is telling girls like me to call, is directing us back to the same people that, especially in my case, and I'm sure other girls, too, are responsible for our abuse.  This is a plea to all such girls and Dr. Phil, to please do something about this.  I know that RAIN probably has good intentions, but the result is frightening.
Dont' stop looking for someone to talk to about this...when you call RAIN can you ask them before they redirect you, to talk to someone outside of your hometown? 
 
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September 20, 2005, 2:33 pm PDT

Self exceptince

     I over the last 2 weeks have had some days where I just cry at how one little thing could have caused me a lot of years of shame, guilt, fear, silents. and now I find out just how our lives are changed and how a chain of events can come out of it. molested at 4.5 then molested one of my 5 brothers and then in turn molested our little brother.. and there is more but the panicky has set in so I need to stop for now but will post more at a later date, see I found the more I can let go of the more I will grow, a little here a little there and then it is all out because, more because now I know I am not the only girl to know she molested her little bother.
 
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September 20, 2005, 3:34 pm PDT

Think you are at the right area

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  Why spend our adulthoods, hacking up our childhoods. Why contstantly talk about someone or something that happened when you were 6,7,8, when you are now 36,37,38. It doesnt effect the other person any. Theres nothing you can do about it now. You cant change the fact it happend. so whats the point of reliving it and reissuing it. Lifes to short  to sit in a negative pool. Do something  for your future, you cant turn back time and go to your past. 

     It seems to me you are in the wrong part of the mees broads? because I need what I have been getting ever since this topic aired,  When flash backs come out of nowhere.  I can be at a store and have them. it dose not matter where I am I have them all the time sometime it's a reaI Thoughts that comes whit those  images I still count how many kids I could hear outside. Now that Iam older It is easier to dael with. I really don't think you will understasnd.  But very glad you do not have those thoughts  and imags of being viloated. Bless you and have a good day.
 
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