Topic : 09/15 The Disappearance of Natalee

And please add cancun to the list! We went there for a short holliday March 2003, during spring break, on this holliday we have 'met' some of the American Youth. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! I have never seen so much disrespect for other people with young people in my life!!! Ther were drunk the hole time having sex in the swimming pool, screaming at each other in the middle of the night not thinking of the other guest in the hotel!! Please don't get me started about the way the young girls were 'dressed'. My mother would break both my leggs before she would let me go out dressed like that! But I do believe that when a woman says no she means no, even if she's almost naked... 

SO BOYCOTT CANCUN(for springbreak) SO WE CAN GO BACK AND REALLY ENJOY OUR HOLLIDAY!!  

In a statement he told the missing teen was drunk and her girlfriends knew this, she was bossy and stepped in the car with the boys, she wanted to stay with the main suspect on the beach, but he had school next daym and left her, she stayed. 

I see that the mother wants to portray and remember her girl as anti standard spring break partying drinking teen, but it looks like she is trying to blame her own parental and school responsibility on the yonuger kid, who partied with her and left her, was the last to have seen her alive. 

I hope that the girlfriends of the missing teen , will testify in this civil case, they refused earlier, for their own reasons, I dont think they want to tell their parents they were drinking etc.  

Many people showed me raw footage of the interview with Skeeter (worked for Dr Phil) and another suspect, Dr phil, whom I respect, concludes that the suspect told about xtc being put in drinks, while its Skeeter who introduces this theory without prove without confirmation of the suspect. 

I hope justice will come, and it wont become a media spectacle, filled with baseless speculations, to boost viewer ratings for their networks, there are so many facts and fiction in this case, that everyone needs to stay sharp, or it will become an unsolved mystery. 

By the way, XTC is not a date rape drug, its a Iraeli party drug, introduced to Dutch Jewish youngsters who liked the music and culture of 'Gabber' music (trance, hardcore), Gabber is jiddish for friends. It is widely used on party s, now not a big deal anymore and it is still illegal. It had its hype in 1996 in amsterdam and Israel party scene, XTC gives a drunk feeling and makes people want to hold eachother and therefor it is populair in that scene. (now less used) 

XTC is never used in combination with Alcohol, it is always used in combination with Coca Cola, or just water, Because the 2 hard drugs (alcohol and mdma) dont add up. http://www.jellinek.nl/tourists/ 

Putting xtc in drinks by bartenders never happens and is pure fantasy, the date rape drug that people have heard about is a drug that was found years ago in England, everybody was on the look out for that drug and its symptoms, and it is less found today thanks to police, nowadays whn there is a drug used in england that was commonly used for rape, it are woman who want to rob rich men. But this happens once in maybe 3 years, Police is very alert. 

I think the thruth is best served accepting that the 18 year old lady was drinking alcohol, and her friends can confirm that and should tell the thruth and stop speculation, because it will be revealed before a judge and experts, lies wont hold. 

let me tell u this. 

I live in the netherlands. 

i know people from surinam. 

the facts are: 

Joran has moods where he gets aggressive. 

Surinam boys want sex all the time. 

They have raped Natalee and killed her with his fathers help to dump the body! 

I am glad that the US law will conduct Joran and give him a $1,000,000 fine! 

He will live in poverty all his life! 

p.s. Arbuba is full of corruption too 

There was a case in sweden that started 1977  

the diseperence of the 17 y/o Dagmar HAGELIN in Argentina / Buenos Aires 

Everyone knew who was behind it all .Amilitaryman officer Alfredo Aziz 

He was later (1990) convicted , but they never found him.. 

All thank to the WONDERFULL Government that didnt want to  

show its filthy behind in this matter..this was a huge story all over the world ... 

As some sources in the Argentinian Government said ..that we would *if we found him* 

leave him to you is practicly none an nothing* we just cant do that... 

And as we all know Germany and the Neederlands have huge money prospects in Aruba 

and a close connection with the government ..those two factors leave us with another aswer 

Yes they will wotk together to *hide the dirt* 

I have read this story over and over again.and the final key to this is that the 3 men ARE involved  

in someway .. how .. well thats another story.. lets hope time will tell. 

I have listend to some radio trans. and its scares me that people / reporters are so incredible stupid that they in anywitchway they can dig up dirt and throw something that *in their bright head* just came up with ,, and *this must be it* .. like the reporter that blamed her parents .. couse he wanted the stir the pot ..and this had to be the aswer to everything ... 

The girls age is irrelevant and of no matter...or that her parents wasnt around . 

or that she was blonde or if she was imature or naive... 

Predators / rapist  /offendors dont bite just that .. they pray at the moment 

and the given surrounding.... 

Her parents could just as easy had been around 

So she was tricked to take a ride with the boys... as so many girls do everyday /everywere around the world . just as that boys go to bed with girls at anytime ..  

The only thing that martters is what happend in the car . or after the car ride.. or what the boys had planed from the get/go... 

And what happens now with government /political/ gameplay... 

I had a huge disscution with my  gf the other day ..abouth the violence and the criminal statistic that grows here in Sweden in a speed that is crazy .... 

she said something very simple  

These things happens couse W E allow it to happen.. 

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Zero tolerance is what would work to stop major crimes and petty thetfs ,,,And dammit .. i belive her 

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I belive that if the pressure from us normal people ,Dr phil included.. 

would acceed their tolerance level of pressure.. the trouth will come out 

what ever yoy meu think the Government is our weapon and if people just get together even they have to listen.. 

I have 4 kids of my own ,,And i can say one thing . 

If this would happend to me and my children . 

i would concider my life as over ..and go for the trouth myself  

nomatter the cost of money or of my life.. 

i have come to another revelation...people are to egoistic  

to be able to *get together* 

there are a few left .and they are rare. and i belive that Dr phil is one of them . 

even that he earns a boudle of money to rip and tear in all this dirt .. 

If you want peace ..Prepare for war .... 

// angelunchained 

"mankind is the only animal with no natural wepon or defence system.... 

so it would be great if we could be able to use our head alittle more .. 

You won't find my husband in the Megan's Registry or any other registry. However, he is a convicted molester of 5 counts. He is convicted of indecent assaults and corruption of minors. One has to go down to our county courthouse to find his convictions. We are currently divorcing. We have two young children together. I am asking for supervised visits, he is "demanding" primary custody! I had no idea that a convicted child molester once off parole was able to have unsupervised visits let alone be able to sue for primary custody!!! We live in PA and apparently there are no custody laws in this regard. He currently has unsupervised visits including overnights. I had no choice. Yes, the judge knows. The judge says that he doesn't care what is in the best interest of the children. Our judge believes that both parents should always have shared custody. I am hoping to go Public with this bigtime. Our children should not be put in harms way. If anyone can help me please do. I am in 15 grand in the arrears with my lawyer fighting this pedophile. I am emotionally , spiritually, physically exhausted but WILL NOT give up on my children. I will NOT give up on trying to get PA to make laws regarding these sexual offenders. I hope Dr. Phil will one day hear my story. To tell my soon to be ex "to get real".