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Topic : 09/15 The Disappearance of Natalee

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Created on : Friday, September 09, 2005, 03:42:10 pm
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It's a story that captured national attention and struck fear in the hearts of parents everywhere. Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared during a senior class trip to the island of Aruba. Now, Dr. Phil uncovers information never before revealed.  Tune in for exclusive interviews -- some potentially incriminating -- with witnesses, suspects and their families and friends. Find out what the polygraph says about a crucial witness, and hear Natalee's mom describe how the horror of losing her precious daughter unfolded over one heartbreaking summer. Share your thoughts here.

 

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March 1, 2006, 6:54 am PST

09/15 The Disappearance of Natalee

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In a statement he told the missing teen was drunk and her girlfriends knew this, she was bossy and stepped in the car with the boys, she wanted to stay with the main suspect on the beach, but he had school next daym and left her, she stayed. 

  

I see that the mother wants to portray and remember her girl as anti standard spring break partying drinking teen, but it looks like she is trying to blame her own parental and school responsibility on the yonuger kid, who partied with her and left her, was the last to have seen her alive. 

  

I hope that the girlfriends of the missing teen , will testify in this civil case, they refused earlier, for their own reasons, I dont think they want to tell their parents they were drinking etc.  

  

Many people showed me raw footage of the interview with Skeeter (worked for Dr Phil) and another suspect, Dr phil, whom I respect, concludes that the suspect told about xtc being put in drinks, while its Skeeter who introduces this theory without prove without confirmation of the suspect. 

  

I hope justice will come, and it wont become a media spectacle, filled with baseless speculations, to boost viewer ratings for their networks, there are so many facts and fiction in this case, that everyone needs to stay sharp, or it will become an unsolved mystery. 

  

By the way, XTC is not a date rape drug, its a Iraeli party drug, introduced to Dutch Jewish youngsters who liked the music and culture of 'Gabber' music (trance, hardcore), Gabber is jiddish for friends. It is widely used on party s, now not a big deal anymore and it is still illegal. It had its hype in 1996 in amsterdam and Israel party scene, XTC gives a drunk feeling and makes people want to hold eachother and therefor it is populair in that scene. (now less used) 

  

XTC is never used in combination with Alcohol, it is always used in combination with Coca Cola, or just water, Because the 2 hard drugs (alcohol and mdma) dont add up. http://www.jellinek.nl/tourists/ 

  

Putting xtc in drinks by bartenders never happens and is pure fantasy, the date rape drug that people have heard about is a drug that was found years ago in England, everybody was on the look out for that drug and its symptoms, and it is less found today thanks to police, nowadays whn there is a drug used in england that was commonly used for rape, it are woman who want to rob rich men. But this happens once in maybe 3 years, Police is very alert. 

  

I think the thruth is best served accepting that the 18 year old lady was drinking alcohol, and her friends can confirm that and should tell the thruth and stop speculation, because it will be revealed before a judge and experts, lies wont hold. 

Dude!! Were the hell do you get this info from. XTC has nothing to do with Jews, morron. It is just another synthetic party drug that is it. It will not make you drunk, it gives plenty of energy, actually enough to keep you going for 24 hours or more. Gabber has nothing to do with Jews by the way. It is just hardcore house music. Gabber means Pal in Dutch. 

  

As for the Holloway case, I think Nathalee's parents should wake up and smell the coffee! She was just another teen having fun in Aruba, were they have plenty of oppertunity to drink and use drugs and will do so accordingly. Then they get horny and want to get laid, big deal, don't blame it on anybody but yourself. I think if people in the US would not raise their children so narrow mindedly, they did not need to go to Aruba to go out of control and things like this would not occur as often. 

  

By the way, ask yourself how many teenagers dissapear in the US every year, is that a reason for non US residents not to visit the US anymore, BS.  

  

The thing I think is more rediculous than anything else it the civil case against Joran now, how is this possible, without complete lack op proof.  

 
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March 1, 2006, 7:00 am PST

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     Beth and Natalee Holloway (and their family) are just as much victims of Hurricane Katrina as the people of the Gulf Coast, especially those who lost family members to violence there. If the "happy island" of Aruba thinks that Americans have not noticed that as soon as the world's media was focused elsewhere, that they released these slimeballs from custody, they can just go "check their foot" as my father in law used to say. We know exactly what they've been up to all along-a GIANT COVERUP! Anyone, American or otherwise, who goes there, knowing what happened in this case, is not only falling for this crap, but actually making the statement that it was perfectly okay for Aruban authorities to treat a tourist this way. Wise up, folks! They only want your MONEY. They don't give a damn about YOU.  There are just too many other equally nice or better islands to vacation on. WHO NEEDS ARUBA and THEIR INCOMPENT POLICE DEPARTMENT and their nasty attitude.
    Beth, Jug and the rest of Natalee's family and friends, God be with you. You will be in our hearts and prayers until you find your answers.
    Julie and Jim
    Jacksonville, FL
   

And yet another narrow minded concerned citizen of the US of A.  There is nothing wrong with Aruba. Why would they want to cover it up? There is no gain in that. If your daughter or sun was kidnapped in Atlanta or Miami, would you call out for a boycott of these places?? 

  

I think americans should no better and hope that the majority of americans posses more braincells than the two of you. 

  

you will not be in my heart or prayers, because praying for you is a lost cause 

 
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March 2, 2006, 12:05 am PST

09/15 The Disappearance of Natalee

Dear Dr. Phil

We have great admiration for the level of quality and fact based information
of your programs. Our lives have certainly been enlightened by your
professional advice, and more so, we have been given the privilege of being able to
understand and learn from the
emotional and psychological issues of your guest and from your resulting
professional interventions.

However, with disturbing disappointment, yet with confidence in being
acknowledged by your professionalism, we strongly disapprove of your
uncharacteristic handling of The Nathalee Holloway Case recently aired during your show.
The issue being your subjective position towards the case which fundamentally
conflicts with the
principles of your show and, as we have grown to appreciate, your values.

Your subjective position, exacerbated by an apparent complete void of
research on this subject has clearly allowed the family to manipulate your program
for their personal gain similar to other popular media we consider as not
being at your standards. With regards to this, and by agreeing to a boycott
against Aruba, you have publicly and willingly taken a subjective position
towards a nation which has held its doors open through the best, and recently,
through the worst moments of your nation for the past 60 odd years.


Any genuine grief the Twitty family might have, which was clearly not
evident during
their extensive stay in Aruba, is no excuse for what is seemingly becoming
an unfounded and personal vendetta against the people of Aruba. Everybody has
the right on having his
own opinion, but no one has the right on having his own facts.

It is not acceptable how the Twitty family and most of the US press have
disrespected our legal system because they failed in bending the outcome to
their choosing. Might we add that in Aruba as well as in the US a person is
innocent until proven guilty and by you
taking the position behind the Twitty family is as you, and we, say
unconstitutional and shameful to the word of law of both our nations. It would have
been more objective, and characteristic of you, to commend the incredible
efforts our system is still allotting to this case in finding Nathalee, and on
the other hand, like most of us in Aruba request an insurance fraud inquiry on
the Twitty family.

Recently in New York a 5-month pregnant girl (Figueroa) went missing,
however was last seen with the father of the child. The father of the child was
interrogated but was not
detained during the investigation which would be contrary to our legal
system. It was not until they found her body that the father of the baby was
detained and formally charged. No body, no case.

Please explain the legal difference in handling this case and the Nathalee
Holloway case. This is the start of being objective.

If you can appreciate the aforementioned, and can find yourself in
considering overturning the damage this specific show has caused to itself and to
Aruba, consider airing another show dedicated to the Nathalee Holloway case,
however, with guests from Aruba whom are capable of explaining your audience of
the facts, and not sensationalism. Needless to say, Mrs. Twitty is most
welcome to be on the panel as well.

Being confident in hearing from you, we remain.
 
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April 2, 2006, 3:06 am PDT

Totally agree (Not)

Quote From: pack65

 i saw the show tonight yea we are a bit slow in sweden.but i will say this,give me 30 minutes with those two aruban boys,and i promise they will talk, BIG TIME.
Yeah, that also worked with those people from iraque. I mean, your gouvrnement tourchered them, used them as sex toys, make some beautiful pictures.   Maybe i'm also to harsh. I don't know what happened to the girl, nobody does yet. But don't throw mud at each other, the american people already have the reputation of war-lovin', 'do everything for oil even murder some iraq-peoplé nobody cares about' persons.   I really hope that is not the case, but it's getting harder and harder not to see americans as this
 
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April 6, 2006, 12:39 pm PDT

Deputy Chief of Police

Can someone explain this to me... 

  

According to some recent reports:  1)  An unreliable source came forward saying that he supplied Natalee with drugs.  2)  This led the Deputy Chief of Police in Aruba (Dompig) to say that Natalee wasn't murdered - she overdosed herself on drugs and alcohol causing her body to go into some type of shock.  3)  Dompig is removed from the case 

  

Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill here but let's get to one reason why this case is year old, problems with the Aruban government and is still unresolved - (spelled c-o-v-e-r u-p...).  Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture here, if not, could someone please explain this to me?   Here's my biggest problem (other than Natalee is still missing):  The brother-in-law of the deputy chief of police is a known drug dealer!!!!!!!!  

 

I apologize in advance if I'm making an incorrect statement, but the resources that I've been reading (NBC13.com)  make this as plain as day and it's no big deal. 

 
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April 25, 2006, 9:03 pm PDT

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Hi, 

  

Just watched the full show about Natalee and to be honest with you i feel sick. Not only Americans should boycott Arubia but also everybody round the world that has a conscience. Anyone with any morality who watched the programme, I hope feels the way i do And the longer this sickening epsiode goes on the more i hope Arubia loses tourism.I really don't want to use foul language but from what i saw from the interviews conducted with the mother,the manageress and that drugged up moron they interviewed, I really think the're taking the complete (bleep) out of America,Natalee's brave and curagious mother and everyone else who is concerned. 

  

What rubbish that Deepak's mother was spouting and she threw the race card up which also really irrates me she quoted "Natalee had ill feeling towards the two brothers coz they were black". I'm sorry and i am i no way racist but what a load of waffle. I't dosent suprise me she wanted to have the tape back because it shows what a sad exscuse for her mother she is and if it where my mother (thank god it isn't) i would pretend i didn't have a mother coz i'd be embarassed. 

  

I'm sorry for whittering on but i hate injustice and this is injustice and i think if any English people are reading this we should follow Dr Phil's lead and boycott thier complete travel industry. Infact we should start a campaign in support of this by writing to local and national newspapers. Come on lets get behind America like they have us so manytimes!!!!! 

  

And I would like to end with this message to Natalee's mother I found it very difficult to watch the show and see you suffer like you did, I can't bear to see innocent peoples lives torn apart from idiots and freeks like those boys. You deserve all the love and support in the world and remember in the end if they are guilty then they will be punished. somewhere down the line the guilt will come over them like nothing else and they will suffer.  

  

And to you Dr Phil you are an inspiration to us all. 

  

Thank You 

  

And God Bless 

  

Jonathan 

  

 
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April 26, 2006, 8:51 am PDT

We need another update

 Dr. Phil please do another update!
 
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May 28, 2006, 8:05 pm PDT

What is the website?

What is the website that Dr. Phil talked about the other day to find sex offenders in your area? The show about the F.B.I. going undercover!
 
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May 28, 2006, 9:08 pm PDT

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What is the website that Dr. Phil talked about the other day to find sex offenders in your area? The show about the F.B.I. going undercover!

The show you are referring to is from 05/22 called "Predator Sting"  You can find the information from that show here :    

   

 http://drphil.com/messageboard/topic/1368   

   

The site is familywatchdog.us, at the top of the "Predator Sting" message board is a link that will take you directly to that site.
 
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June 4, 2006, 7:18 pm PDT

SICKENING

FIRST OF ALL, I FEEL SO SAD FOR NATALEE'S FAMILY. JUST AWFUL. I KNOW FIRST HAND ABOUT HOW WOMEN CAN BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. I WAS IN PARIS GOING TO SCHOOL, AND WAS WALKING HOME FROM A CAFE. I HAD MET A LOCAL THERE, AND HE SEEMED NICE ENOUGH. WE HAD COFEE, AND I TOLD HIM I HAD TO GO. AS I WAS WALKING HOME, I STARTED TO FEEL DIZZY AND NAUSEATED. I TURNED AROUND, AND THERE WAS THE GUY WHO I HAD BEEN CHATTING WITH. ALL OF THE SUDDEN I GOT VERY LIGHT HEADED AND WEAK. HE FOLLOWED ME AND TRIED TO CONVINCE ME TO COME WITH HIM. I ADAMANTELY DENIED, AND GETTING WEAKER TRIED TO GET AWAY. HE CAUGHT UP WITH ME, THREW ME ON THE GROUND AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ME. AT THIS TIME I WAS TIRED, IN AND OUT OF CONCSIOUSNESS. I CAME TO WITH HIS HANDS SO TIGHT AROUND MY NECK, THAT I STILL, AFTER3 YEARS HAVE SCARS WHERE HIS NAILS WERE. I KNOW THAT I HAD ANGELS WITH ME THEN, BECAUSE OUT OF NOWHERE, I AWOKE GOT ENOUGH POWER TO KICK HIMJ AS HARD AS I COULD, AND STUMBLE AWAY. I FOUND A POLICEMAN TO HELP ME, BUT WAS HARD BECAUSE MY VOCAL CORDS WERE SO DAMAGED IT WAS HARD TO SPEAK.    

LATER, THE DOCTOR FOUND TRACES OF A HEAVY SEDATIVE THAT HAD BEEN IN MY COFFEE.  

I WANT NATALEE AND HER FAMILY TO FIND PEACE, AND THE SCUM WHO DID THIS.  BECAUSE I NEVER FOUND THE PERSON WHO ASSAULTED ME.   

   

   

CATHERINE   

 
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