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It's a story that captured national attention and struck fear in the hearts of parents everywhere. Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared during a senior class trip to the island of Aruba. Now, Dr. Phil uncovers information never before revealed.  Tune in for exclusive interviews -- some potentially incriminating -- with witnesses, suspects and their families and friends. Find out what the polygraph says about a crucial witness, and hear Natalee's mom describe how the horror of losing her precious daughter unfolded over one heartbreaking summer. Share your thoughts here.

 

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September 23, 2005, 10:25 pm PDT

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Actually, I think your poor American pride has been hurt.  All I hear from the messages here is a proclamation of  "how dare they do that to us, we are Americans."  Just because another part of the world doesn't do things exactly as Americans do doesn't mean that they are doing it wrong.  Have you studied the Arubian justice system, or is your response purely emotional? 
Actually, I think you poor Arubans have been lied to so much you dont know the differance between truth and lies. 
 
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September 23, 2005, 10:32 pm PDT

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I'm sorry for the bad englisch but thats because i'm from the Netherlands. 

  

I saw a little piece of the show about Nathalee. It was about an police interview on the suspects. 

The reaction of al the people after that gave me some bad feeling. First let it be straight that i feel sorry for her parents and wish them all the luck. 

  

But everyone think they have found her "murderers" but no-one even knows if she is murdered. 

Than that she would be drugged with XTC or something else because she wouldn't have sex on herself because she just wants it. Nooo she is a virgin and she would never do that. Damn how stupid can parents be. Young people grow and they want to explore te world.  

How I know this? Well i'm 22 and thats how it goes in your childhoud. And i can tell you, my parents have given me a very good childhood! 

  

How can you people be sow arrogant and thinking you all know that these guys killed her? Joran should have "fled" to the Netherlands. What should you do? Every freeking american is after him. This guy also wants to work on his future. And that future depands on a school here in The Netherlands. So what? Until he isn't plead guilty and there are still no good points against him, he is allowed to go anywhere he wants. Maybe she killed herself? Than you all give this guys a bad feeling for live. So dont judge to soon. 

  

What i want to say? 

  

Look at yourself, what did you do in your youth? Well we are not living in the 18th century anymore. Young people want to discover things and sex is one of them. So stop saying she is a virgin and would never do that. She is not Maria. 

All I can say is thank GOD Joran is in the Neatherlands.  Now you can deal with him.  He will screw up again and you will have to deal with it in your own country. Lets see if they cover it up then. God Bless Natalee and her Family.
 
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September 24, 2005, 2:24 am PDT

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 I am sure the 2 f16  was just their way of back peddling for getting busted doing a sloppy job with the investigation.  the only thing I think Aruba is covering up is that they  screwed the case up. That is very clear and I think your poor dutch pride has been hurt.   
Don't need to study it, I have Dutch family.  Two of my cousins moved here from Holland four years ago. There is a discussion almost every night about the differences between the two countries.  I never said I think America does EVERYTHING right.  I can acknowledge mistakes made by our govt.  What I mean to say is I think you don't see the upside to Americans coming together  and showing compassion for a family who has lost a loved one.  Imagine if your child came to the states to visit and went missing, and no one here would help you and to make it worse what if Americans started trashing the character of your loved one who is missing?   would you be proud if the people of Holland stood behind you?
 
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September 24, 2005, 7:21 am PDT

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I would just like to say how ridiculous I think it is that you are all saying not to go to Aruba on vacation because it is dangerous and unsafe. But I would like to add that Aruba, like any other country/ island has their problems, LIKE EVERY OTHER COUNTRY! If you go to any 'tropical paradise' you will find crime, murder etc.. If you go anywhere in the world you will find that! No where can be perfectly safe. I feel for Natalee's family, I am sure it must hurt to lose a daughter. But you cannot blame Aruba. Yes the government has its flauws, but that is every government. The mayority of Arubian people helped Natalee's mom, searching day and night. So I really feel that it is unfair to tell people not to go to Aruba. I am an Arubian, with an American mother, and if it weren't for Aruba, I would have never been born. My Mom won a vacation 25 years ago to Aruba and met my Dad, fell in love and had a family. Aruba is a wonderful place to vacation, and like any where else that you would go on vacation you would have to be careful and watch out for yourself and your loved ones.  

 
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September 25, 2005, 2:51 pm PDT

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Quote From: ferryzuid

I'm sorry for the bad englisch but thats because i'm from the Netherlands. 

  

I saw a little piece of the show about Nathalee. It was about an police interview on the suspects. 

The reaction of al the people after that gave me some bad feeling. First let it be straight that i feel sorry for her parents and wish them all the luck. 

  

But everyone think they have found her "murderers" but no-one even knows if she is murdered. 

Than that she would be drugged with XTC or something else because she wouldn't have sex on herself because she just wants it. Nooo she is a virgin and she would never do that. Damn how stupid can parents be. Young people grow and they want to explore te world.  

How I know this? Well i'm 22 and thats how it goes in your childhoud. And i can tell you, my parents have given me a very good childhood! 

  

How can you people be sow arrogant and thinking you all know that these guys killed her? Joran should have "fled" to the Netherlands. What should you do? Every freeking american is after him. This guy also wants to work on his future. And that future depands on a school here in The Netherlands. So what? Until he isn't plead guilty and there are still no good points against him, he is allowed to go anywhere he wants. Maybe she killed herself? Than you all give this guys a bad feeling for live. So dont judge to soon. 

  

What i want to say? 

  

Look at yourself, what did you do in your youth? Well we are not living in the 18th century anymore. Young people want to discover things and sex is one of them. So stop saying she is a virgin and would never do that. She is not Maria. 

     

   How dare you? Just because we aren't living in the 18th century, doesn't mean that every person is going to experiment with sex. Let me tell you I am 19 and I am a virgin. Some of us still have morals and want to wait. She may not be Maria but you don't know if she was a virgin. Do you know her? I think you should stop trashing her good name. what right do you have to do that? How would you feel if your child went missing and you heard someone who you don't even know saying bad things about them?? Would you be able to sleep at night knowing people were saying those things? I think everyone should stop bashing her and try to find her. GOD what is the world coming to? 

 
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September 25, 2005, 5:30 pm PDT

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Quote From: grandmafuz

Everyone counts and until Aruba Stops the coverup noone should travel there. Sooner or Later we solve our crime cases we dont cover them up.

If you suspect a cover up, please sew the people involved. if YOU have hard evidence, it should be no problem. Justice will conquer. 

  

If solving crimes cases, the americain way, reflect the Simpson case, please don't bother. We don't like justice like that. 

  

We like to see a confiction based on evidence, hard evidence. 

  

You're so sure of a cover up. Please, bring it to court if you have the evidence. 

  

If not, please shut up. 

  

  

 
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September 26, 2005, 10:06 am PDT

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Quote From: grandmafuz

Actually, I think you poor Arubans have been lied to so much you dont know the differance between truth and lies. 

You incorrectly assume that because I am disagreeing with you that I am from Aruba or the Netherlands.  I am not.   

  

Your post has no facts to it.  It is purely emotional.  Have you studied the Arubian justice system? 

 
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September 26, 2005, 10:50 am PDT

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Quote From: cuddles05

YOU CAN KEEP YOUR KIDS LOCKED UP SOME WHAT IF IT MEANS THEY ARE SAFE.I WOULD'NT HAVE LET MY DAUGHTER GO.THEIR IS'NT A PRAY.IF SHE HAD'NT GONE SHE WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN HERE.THE DATE RAPE DRUG IS OUT THERE BUT WHY WAS SHE DRINKING AWAY.AND WHY WAS SHE LET GO 

  

                           KATHY 

  

No!  You have to teach your kids to be aware of their surroundings.  If you keep them locked up, they will just rebel.  Things can happen as soon as they walk out the door.  Are you going to lock them up forever.  It's just not possible. 

KNOWLEGE IS THE BEST DEFENSE. 

 
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September 26, 2005, 11:17 am PDT

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Quote From: kevinnl

 I find it absolutely horrifying that Joran van de Sloot and his father have been allowed to take refuge in the Netherlands with this case still open in Aruba.

I would like Doctor Phil to extend his boycott of Aruba to the Netherlands as well.

-Kevin Jansen
Amsterdam,  NL

I agree with you,  Sad ...Joran gets to continue his education "HOW SPECIAL" and go on with his life,  Natalee would have been in school now.  I hope all three boys, officials, "DADDY"  and ANYONE that is aware of what happened and is hiding/covering up information  pay dearly for it,  "GOD DOESN"T SLEEP".   It's so sad to think that there are people in this world that prey on the innocent  "FOR SEX"  It just shows that they have no self control.  People in the Netherlands,  please watch your daughterd, sisters, nieces, granddaughters etc....  Sad to say but it could happen to you.  He knows how to do it, and he knows how to do it well. It's obvious that he can't control himself.  You don't hear much on daddy,  how many believe that daddy helped cover-up the crime scene, helped hide the body?  Funny! daddy was back and forth on the islands.  I believe daddy knows a lot more than you might know. 

 
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September 26, 2005, 11:27 am PDT

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Quote From: grandmafuz

We keep the case opened and never cover it up.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMON SENSE?   

YOU CAN'T HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT NATALEE LOVED BEING DRUGED, RAPED (YES RAPED - IF YOU ARE NOT AWAKE DURING THE SEXUAL ACT, IT'S RAPE)  AND DECIDED THAT....YEAH! THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO LIVE.  LOL 

 
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